How Liberals Use Science

[sealybobo]

Who do you use propoganda on? A stupid citizenry. Hitler used propoganda on his stupid chrsitian citizens and Bush used it on our stupid christian society.

I wonder how many US presidents, Senators and Congressmen don't really believe in god. They all say they do but that's statistically impossible. Just like there is no way there are zero gays in the NFL.

For example, I think Obama and Clinton are smarter than that.

The only person in here that thinks Hitler was religious is you. You started the lie, you propagated the lie, you continue the lie.

Hitler was, at best, ambiguous about religion. National Socialism was not. National Socialists didn't like religion one bit. Hitler's relationship with religion has been characterized as one of opportunistic pragmatism.

You lie. But you're a dimocrap. That's what dimocraps do

He thought he was a god. And it doesn't matter if he was. His citizens were Catholics. That's Christian, right? They hated the Jews and murdered millions of them. Typical of Christian history. Nothing new.

Well, you're a product of Pop Culture education, so I guess it's not your fault that you look stupid all the time.

Hitler had all those Jews killed, NOT because of their religion or their race. Anybody that believes that is beyond stupid.

Hitler killed them because socialists hate -- What? What do socialists hate more than anything? More than anything else on earth socialists hate Capitalism.

And Hitler, (as well as marxists) saw Jews as the world's best and foremost Capitalists.

Read Bruno Bauer's "The Jewish Question"

Better yet, since I doubt your attention span can last past your next phone call, skip to Marx's reply to Bauer in his "On The Jewish Question"

They ALL saw Jews as a problem in the institution of socialism.

The Russian socialists solved the problem by doing away with Capitalism altogether. This, removing the stimulus and the desire to be Capitalists.

The Nazis simply did away with Jews.

It's more complicated than that, but that's the general gist of it -- For the simple minded.

Hitler killed the Jews because he saw them as a stumbling block on his path to a Nationalist, socialist Germany. He believed (rightly) that he could keep ethnic Germans in line. But that Jews might be a problem.

To call it racism or racialism or a Religious Pogrom is stupid. Just stupid.

If Hitler was such a racist (he was to an extent) then how come the Countries he devastated the most were much more racially similar to Germans than the Countries he allied himself with?

Hitler prefered Blonde Hair and Blue Eyes. The pure Aryan. We all know that.

What was the incidence of Blond Hair and Blue Eyes in Japan?

How about comparing the number of Aryans in....... Let's say, Poland compared to Italy?

You people on the left, you just swallow whatever pablum you're fed. It's why I hate you so much. Not that you're stupid but because you're stupid and defend your stupidity like a junk yard dog

I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle. Middle left that is.

And I'm not a socialist. That's just you spewing what the right has brainwashed you into believing. I believe in well regulated capitalism with a splash of socialism, such as public schools. Don't you? How extreme are you?

I think most liberals just want a government that once again works for We the People instead of the highest bidder. Even Capitalism is just another ISM easily corrupted as we see. How long has it been around? Yet you are so sure of it? Why, because your society is god's favorite? Pathetic small short sighted arrogant and ignorant.

Just as long as we agree that Hitler believing or not believing in god(s) doesn't matter. Its the masses that I worry about. It is them who are all too easily mobilized by nationalism and religion. Either way you look at it your way is the masses bow down to authority and my way is the people rule and decide and freely think and say whatever they want.

If god were real and Christianity were actually real and believable, we wouldn't have a secular society with secular laws. We'd just go by the good book. But we all know better. At least most of us do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who do you use propoganda on? A stupid citizenry. Hitler used propoganda on his stupid chrsitian citizens and Bush used it on our stupid christian society.

I wonder how many US presidents, Senators and Congressmen don't really believe in god. They all say they do but that's statistically impossible. Just like there is no way there are zero gays in the NFL.

For example, I think Obama and Clinton are smarter than that.

The only person in here that thinks Hitler was religious is you. You started the lie, you propagated the lie, you continue the lie.

Hitler was, at best, ambiguous about religion. National Socialism was not. National Socialists didn't like religion one bit. Hitler's relationship with religion has been characterized as one of opportunistic pragmatism.

You lie. But you're a dimocrap. That's what dimocraps do

He thought he was a god. And it doesn't matter if he was. His citizens were Catholics. That's Christian, right? They hated the Jews and murdered millions of them. Typical of Christian history. Nothing new.

Well, you're a product of Pop Culture education, so I guess it's not your fault that you look stupid all the time.

Hitler had all those Jews killed, NOT because of their religion or their race. Anybody that believes that is beyond stupid.

Hitler killed them because socialists hate -- What? What do socialists hate more than anything? More than anything else on earth socialists hate Capitalism.

And Hitler, (as well as marxists) saw Jews as the world's best and foremost Capitalists.

Read Bruno Bauer's "The Jewish Question"

Better yet, since I doubt your attention span can last past your next phone call, skip to Marx's reply to Bauer in his "On The Jewish Question"

They ALL saw Jews as a problem in the institution of socialism.

The Russian socialists solved the problem by doing away with Capitalism altogether. This, removing the stimulus and the desire to be Capitalists.

The Nazis simply did away with Jews.

It's more complicated than that, but that's the general gist of it -- For the simple minded.

Hitler killed the Jews because he saw them as a stumbling block on his path to a Nationalist, socialist Germany. He believed (rightly) that he could keep ethnic Germans in line. But that Jews might be a problem.

To call it racism or racialism or a Religious Pogrom is stupid. Just stupid.

If Hitler was such a racist (he was to an extent) then how come the Countries he devastated the most were much more racially similar to Germans than the Countries he allied himself with?

Hitler prefered Blonde Hair and Blue Eyes. The pure Aryan. We all know that.

What was the incidence of Blond Hair and Blue Eyes in Japan?

How about comparing the number of Aryans in....... Let's say, Poland compared to Italy?

You people on the left, you just swallow whatever pablum you're fed. It's why I hate you so much. Not that you're stupid but because you're stupid and defend your stupidity like a junk yard dog

I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle. Middle left that is.

And I'm not a socialist. That's just you spewing what the right has brainwashed you into believing. I believe in well regulated capitalism with a splash of socialism, such as public schools. Don't you? How extreme are you?

I think most liberals just want a government that once again works for We the People instead of the highest bidder. Even Capitalism is just another ISM easily corrupted as we see. How long has it been around? Yet you are so sure of it? Why, because your society is god's favorite? Pathetic small short sighted arrogant and ignorant.

Just as long as we agree that Hitler believing or not believing in god(s) doesn't matter. Its the masses that I worry about. It is them who are all too easily mobilized by nationalism and religion. Either way you look at it your way is the masses bow down to authority and my way is the people rule and decide and freely think and say whatever they want.

If god were real and Christianity were actually real and believable, we wouldn't have a secular society with secular laws. We'd just go by the good book. But we all know better. At least most of us do.

"Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes.

These economic advances continued throughout the period of the rise of socialist ideology. The poor didn’t get poorer because the rich were getting richer (a familiar socialist refrain even today) as the socialists had predicted. Instead, the underlying reality was that capitalism had created the first societies in history in which living standards were rising in all sectors of society."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.

Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006

 

[sealybobo]

Who do you use propoganda on? A stupid citizenry. Hitler used propoganda on his stupid chrsitian citizens and Bush used it on our stupid christian society.

I wonder how many US presidents, Senators and Congressmen don't really believe in god. They all say they do but that's statistically impossible. Just like there is no way there are zero gays in the NFL.

For example, I think Obama and Clinton are smarter than that.

The only person in here that thinks Hitler was religious is you. You started the lie, you propagated the lie, you continue the lie.

Hitler was, at best, ambiguous about religion. National Socialism was not. National Socialists didn't like religion one bit. Hitler's relationship with religion has been characterized as one of opportunistic pragmatism.

You lie. But you're a dimocrap. That's what dimocraps do

He thought he was a god. And it doesn't matter if he was. His citizens were Catholics. That's Christian, right? They hated the Jews and murdered millions of them. Typical of Christian history. Nothing new.

Well, you're a product of Pop Culture education, so I guess it's not your fault that you look stupid all the time.

Hitler had all those Jews killed, NOT because of their religion or their race. Anybody that believes that is beyond stupid.

Hitler killed them because socialists hate -- What? What do socialists hate more than anything? More than anything else on earth socialists hate Capitalism.

And Hitler, (as well as marxists) saw Jews as the world's best and foremost Capitalists.

Read Bruno Bauer's "The Jewish Question"

Better yet, since I doubt your attention span can last past your next phone call, skip to Marx's reply to Bauer in his "On The Jewish Question"

They ALL saw Jews as a problem in the institution of socialism.

The Russian socialists solved the problem by doing away with Capitalism altogether. This, removing the stimulus and the desire to be Capitalists.

The Nazis simply did away with Jews.

It's more complicated than that, but that's the general gist of it -- For the simple minded.

Hitler killed the Jews because he saw them as a stumbling block on his path to a Nationalist, socialist Germany. He believed (rightly) that he could keep ethnic Germans in line. But that Jews might be a problem.

To call it racism or racialism or a Religious Pogrom is stupid. Just stupid.

If Hitler was such a racist (he was to an extent) then how come the Countries he devastated the most were much more racially similar to Germans than the Countries he allied himself with?

Hitler prefered Blonde Hair and Blue Eyes. The pure Aryan. We all know that.

What was the incidence of Blond Hair and Blue Eyes in Japan?

How about comparing the number of Aryans in....... Let's say, Poland compared to Italy?

You people on the left, you just swallow whatever pablum you're fed. It's why I hate you so much. Not that you're stupid but because you're stupid and defend your stupidity like a junk yard dog

I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle. Middle left that is.

And I'm not a socialist. That's just you spewing what the right has brainwashed you into believing. I believe in well regulated capitalism with a splash of socialism, such as public schools. Don't you? How extreme are you?

I think most liberals just want a government that once again works for We the People instead of the highest bidder. Even Capitalism is just another ISM easily corrupted as we see. How long has it been around? Yet you are so sure of it? Why, because your society is god's favorite? Pathetic small short sighted arrogant and ignorant.

Just as long as we agree that Hitler believing or not believing in god(s) doesn't matter. Its the masses that I worry about. It is them who are all too easily mobilized by nationalism and religion. Either way you look at it your way is the masses bow down to authority and my way is the people rule and decide and freely think and say whatever they want.

If god were real and Christianity were actually real and believable, we wouldn't have a secular society with secular laws. We'd just go by the good book. But we all know better. At least most of us do.

"Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes.

These economic advances continued throughout the period of the rise of socialist ideology. The poor didn’t get poorer because the rich were getting richer (a familiar socialist refrain even today) as the socialists had predicted. Instead, the underlying reality was that capitalism had created the first societies in history in which living standards were rising in all sectors of society."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.

Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006

Properly regulated capitalism is the best. And things like schools and prisons should remain public.

 

[Billy000]

PC, how about you just admit you don't understand any use of science?

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC, how about you just admit you don't understand any use of science?

Well, well, well...look who dropped by!

It's Billy000IQ, blissfully unfettered by the ravages of higher intelligence!

So....you finished brunch at the dumpster early today?

 

[PoliticalChic]

A day in the life of liberal Nazis:

"So, uh, Frank. I'm thinking maybe we should let some Jews and negroes into our club. Whattya think?"

The above is particularly important when on considers the Liberal myth that Communism is of the Left, but it is balanced by Nazism on the Right. Both Communism and Nazism are of the Left, and only after the Holocaust was revealed did the Left claim that Nazism was of the Left.

a. Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48

 

[rdean]

Lots of left-wingers have used science, yes. Gaspard Monge and Albert Einstein immediately come to mind.

And no, Hitler hated marxism: Godwin s Law Review Racial and Cultural Demonization

They pursued science .... they didn't use it. And they were objective... thus, they were not 'left-wingers'.

If they were here to read your drivel, they'd pity you for your mental deficiency... and they'd likely be disconcerted that technology has advanced sufficiently to give people of your pitiful intellectual means, a public forum.

You said referring to Einstein: They pursued science .... they didn't use it. And they were objective... thus, they were not 'left-wingers'.

Einstein s private letter spelling out God the Bible and Judaism up for grabs RT Art amp culture

"…The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change this," wrote the German-born scientist, who received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921.

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No matter how you look at it, that doesn't sound very conservative. In fact, it sound's very, very liberal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Lots of left-wingers have used science, yes. Gaspard Monge and Albert Einstein immediately come to mind.

And no, Hitler hated marxism: Godwin s Law Review Racial and Cultural Demonization

They pursued science .... they didn't use it. And they were objective... thus, they were not 'left-wingers'.

If they were here to read your drivel, they'd pity you for your mental deficiency... and they'd likely be disconcerted that technology has advanced sufficiently to give people of your pitiful intellectual means, a public forum.

You said referring to Einstein: They pursued science .... they didn't use it. And they were objective... thus, they were not 'left-wingers'.

Einstein s private letter spelling out God the Bible and Judaism up for grabs RT Art amp culture

"…The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change this," wrote the German-born scientist, who received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921.

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No matter how you look at it, that doesn't sound very conservative. In fact, it sound's very, very liberal.

I invited you earlier to attempt to find any errors in the quote from Humphrey Hawksley's "Ceremony of Innocence."

I reduced it to seven specific items.

Based on your lack of response, I conclude that there were no errors.

As I expected.

 

[hazlnut]

Notice who was president in 1927 and the previous administrations that allowed eugenics, why it was the GOP..No surprise, but it was left out of this finger pointing OP.

That's polichick for ya, not a clue, but she just keeps posting.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Notice who was president in 1927 and the previous administrations that allowed eugenics, why it was the GOP..No surprise, but it was left out of this finger pointing OP.

That's polichick for ya, not a clue, but she just keeps posting.

Oh! Now THAT is a fine concession!

And it is Duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Lots of left-wingers have used science, yes. Gaspard Monge and Albert Einstein immediately come to mind.

And no, Hitler hated marxism: Godwin s Law Review Racial and Cultural Demonization

They pursued science .... they didn't use it. And they were objective... thus, they were not 'left-wingers'.

If they were here to read your drivel, they'd pity you for your mental deficiency... and they'd likely be disconcerted that technology has advanced sufficiently to give people of your pitiful intellectual means, a public forum.

You said referring to Einstein: They pursued science .... they didn't use it. And they were objective... thus, they were not 'left-wingers'.

Einstein s private letter spelling out God the Bible and Judaism up for grabs RT Art amp culture

"…The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change this," wrote the German-born scientist, who received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921.

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No matter how you look at it, that doesn't sound very conservative. In fact, it sound's very, very liberal.

And this is relevant to what?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

A day in the life of liberal Nazis:

"So, uh, Frank. I'm thinking maybe we should let some Jews and negroes into our club. Whattya think?"

The above is particularly important when on considers the Liberal myth that Communism is of the Left, but it is balanced by Nazism on the Right. Both Communism and Nazism are of the Left, and only after the Holocaust was revealed did the Left claim that Nazism was of the Left.

a. Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48

LOL! For the Nazis to be to one's right, one would need to be standing upon the teetering edge of the Left. Axiomatically disqualifying such an individual's point of view... for anyone even remotely in kinship with America.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Sure he was. You can't look at these people and tell me they are right wingers:

What ya have there are imbeciles... but my guess is that any of 'em would give you a run for your intellectual coin.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The only person in here that thinks Hitler was religious is you. You started the lie, you propagated the lie, you continue the lie.

Hitler was, at best, ambiguous about religion. National Socialism was not. National Socialists didn't like religion one bit. Hitler's relationship with religion has been characterized as one of opportunistic pragmatism.

You lie. But you're a dimocrap. That's what dimocraps do

He thought he was a god. And it doesn't matter if he was. His citizens were Catholics. That's Christian, right? They hated the Jews and murdered millions of them. Typical of Christian history. Nothing new.

Well, you're a product of Pop Culture education, so I guess it's not your fault that you look stupid all the time.

Hitler had all those Jews killed, NOT because of their religion or their race. Anybody that believes that is beyond stupid.

Hitler killed them because socialists hate -- What? What do socialists hate more than anything? More than anything else on earth socialists hate Capitalism.

And Hitler, (as well as marxists) saw Jews as the world's best and foremost Capitalists.

Read Bruno Bauer's "The Jewish Question"

Better yet, since I doubt your attention span can last past your next phone call, skip to Marx's reply to Bauer in his "On The Jewish Question"

They ALL saw Jews as a problem in the institution of socialism.

The Russian socialists solved the problem by doing away with Capitalism altogether. This, removing the stimulus and the desire to be Capitalists.

The Nazis simply did away with Jews.

It's more complicated than that, but that's the general gist of it -- For the simple minded.

Hitler killed the Jews because he saw them as a stumbling block on his path to a Nationalist, socialist Germany. He believed (rightly) that he could keep ethnic Germans in line. But that Jews might be a problem.

To call it racism or racialism or a Religious Pogrom is stupid. Just stupid.

If Hitler was such a racist (he was to an extent) then how come the Countries he devastated the most were much more racially similar to Germans than the Countries he allied himself with?

Hitler prefered Blonde Hair and Blue Eyes. The pure Aryan. We all know that.

What was the incidence of Blond Hair and Blue Eyes in Japan?

How about comparing the number of Aryans in....... Let's say, Poland compared to Italy?

You people on the left, you just swallow whatever pablum you're fed. It's why I hate you so much. Not that you're stupid but because you're stupid and defend your stupidity like a junk yard dog

I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle. Middle left that is.

And I'm not a socialist. That's just you spewing what the right has brainwashed you into believing. I believe in well regulated capitalism with a splash of socialism, such as public schools. Don't you? How extreme are you?

I think most liberals just want a government that once again works for We the People instead of the highest bidder. Even Capitalism is just another ISM easily corrupted as we see. How long has it been around? Yet you are so sure of it? Why, because your society is god's favorite? Pathetic small short sighted arrogant and ignorant.

Just as long as we agree that Hitler believing or not believing in god(s) doesn't matter. Its the masses that I worry about. It is them who are all too easily mobilized by nationalism and religion. Either way you look at it your way is the masses bow down to authority and my way is the people rule and decide and freely think and say whatever they want.

If god were real and Christianity were actually real and believable, we wouldn't have a secular society with secular laws. We'd just go by the good book. But we all know better. At least most of us do.

"Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes.

These economic advances continued throughout the period of the rise of socialist ideology. The poor didn’t get poorer because the rich were getting richer (a familiar socialist refrain even today) as the socialists had predicted. Instead, the underlying reality was that capitalism had created the first societies in history in which living standards were rising in all sectors of society."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.

Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006

Properly regulated capitalism is the best. And things like schools and prisons should remain public.

"Properly regulated capitalism" isn't capitalism. Where do you get your economic philosophy from? Micheal Moore?

 

[TemplarKormac]

False. Nazis were the NATIONAL SOCIALIST Party... meaning that they were SOCIALISTS, of the nationalist variety.

That National Socialism is 'To the Right' of international socialism, does not make it less socialist... and it sure as hell, doesn't make it 'right'.

Nazism is ALL YOUR'S sweety... Just as Mao was yours... Murdered 100 million people in the name of Humanism... and Stalin was yours... Murdered 25 million in the name of Humanism. And you and your own cult are responsible for the 50 million of humanities MOST innocent and MOST DEFENSELESS that you MURDERED... with your shame being that it was YOU who those humans depended upon to defend them. And you failed... and ya did so WILLFULLY and wantonly... .

You people are a menace to the species, without regard to the names you make up to hide your trail.

What you did was us an ad hominem deflection which demonstrates a failure to understand that atheism is simply a lack of belief in god(s), with no inherit moral, political or philosophical baggage, and thus no line can be drawn from it to the aforementioned ideologies. In the same vein, democracy could be called atheistic because we live in a secular society.

Hitler was religious and publicly decried atheism.

Stalinism and Communism exercised gosateizm (state atheism) based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism.

“We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” – Adolf Hitler

I don't know if you've heard, and this may come as a shock to you, but Hitler's public statements were propaganda. Of course he publicly supported the faith of the German majority.

"Hitler had been brought up a Catholic and was impressed by the organization and power of the Church. For Protestant clergy he felt only contempt: 'They are insignificant little people, submissive as dogs...[-] They have neither a religion you can take seriously nor a great position to defend like Rome'. It was the 'great position' of the Church that he respected; towards its teaching he showed only the sharpest hostility. In Hitler's eyes, Christianity was a religion fit only for slaves; he detested its ethics in particular. Its teaching, he declared, was a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest."- Hitler a Study in Tyranny; Alan Bullock

Who do you use propoganda on? A stupid citizenry. Hitler used propoganda on his stupid chrsitian citizens and Bush used it on our stupid christian society.

I wonder how many US presidents, Senators and Congressmen don't really believe in god. They all say they do but that's statistically impossible. Just like there is no way there are zero gays in the NFL.

For example, I think Obama and Clinton are smarter than that.

American Christians tend to be functional atheists who go to church to gain access to customers to sell insurance to.

You can't blame the Iraq War on theists when outspoken atheists like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens wholeheartedly supported it. Today, Bill Maher is one of the foremost atheists whose rallying cry is to destroy the backwards theists who don't belong in the 21st Century.

"WMD's or not, Hitchens defended the war -- and his role in promoting it -- as being on the right side of history, saying it was an appropriate response in a post-9/11 world. He dubbed the attacks "fascism with an Islamic face" in his post-9/11 column for the Nation." - Christopher Hitchens Despite Criticism And Casualties Defended Iraq War To The End

War is sold to the public today more upon secular humanitarian grounds than an appeal to religion. If we ramp up our efforts against IS, how will Obama and Kerry sell that? Crimes against humanity by an enemy comprised of backwards theists.

I guess even atheists can be wrong sometimes. Hitchens was a vocal supporter of Republicanism in the United Kingdom

Republicanism in the UK and Republicanism in the US are two different things. Pretty basic political science.

 

[NYcarbineer]

He thought he was a god. And it doesn't matter if he was. His citizens were Catholics. That's Christian, right? They hated the Jews and murdered millions of them. Typical of Christian history. Nothing new.

Well, you're a product of Pop Culture education, so I guess it's not your fault that you look stupid all the time.

Hitler had all those Jews killed, NOT because of their religion or their race. Anybody that believes that is beyond stupid.

Hitler killed them because socialists hate -- What? What do socialists hate more than anything? More than anything else on earth socialists hate Capitalism.

And Hitler, (as well as marxists) saw Jews as the world's best and foremost Capitalists.

Read Bruno Bauer's "The Jewish Question"

Better yet, since I doubt your attention span can last past your next phone call, skip to Marx's reply to Bauer in his "On The Jewish Question"

They ALL saw Jews as a problem in the institution of socialism.

The Russian socialists solved the problem by doing away with Capitalism altogether. This, removing the stimulus and the desire to be Capitalists.

The Nazis simply did away with Jews.

It's more complicated than that, but that's the general gist of it -- For the simple minded.

Hitler killed the Jews because he saw them as a stumbling block on his path to a Nationalist, socialist Germany. He believed (rightly) that he could keep ethnic Germans in line. But that Jews might be a problem.

To call it racism or racialism or a Religious Pogrom is stupid. Just stupid.

If Hitler was such a racist (he was to an extent) then how come the Countries he devastated the most were much more racially similar to Germans than the Countries he allied himself with?

Hitler prefered Blonde Hair and Blue Eyes. The pure Aryan. We all know that.

What was the incidence of Blond Hair and Blue Eyes in Japan?

How about comparing the number of Aryans in....... Let's say, Poland compared to Italy?

You people on the left, you just swallow whatever pablum you're fed. It's why I hate you so much. Not that you're stupid but because you're stupid and defend your stupidity like a junk yard dog

I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle. Middle left that is.

And I'm not a socialist. That's just you spewing what the right has brainwashed you into believing. I believe in well regulated capitalism with a splash of socialism, such as public schools. Don't you? How extreme are you?

I think most liberals just want a government that once again works for We the People instead of the highest bidder. Even Capitalism is just another ISM easily corrupted as we see. How long has it been around? Yet you are so sure of it? Why, because your society is god's favorite? Pathetic small short sighted arrogant and ignorant.

Just as long as we agree that Hitler believing or not believing in god(s) doesn't matter. Its the masses that I worry about. It is them who are all too easily mobilized by nationalism and religion. Either way you look at it your way is the masses bow down to authority and my way is the people rule and decide and freely think and say whatever they want.

If god were real and Christianity were actually real and believable, we wouldn't have a secular society with secular laws. We'd just go by the good book. But we all know better. At least most of us do.

"Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes.

These economic advances continued throughout the period of the rise of socialist ideology. The poor didn’t get poorer because the rich were getting richer (a familiar socialist refrain even today) as the socialists had predicted. Instead, the underlying reality was that capitalism had created the first societies in history in which living standards were rising in all sectors of society."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.

Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006

Properly regulated capitalism is the best. And things like schools and prisons should remain public.

"Properly regulated capitalism" isn't capitalism. Where do you get your economic philosophy from? Micheal Moore?

You're an idiot.

 

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You're an idiot.

 

[initforme]

Cold hard facts: The rich ARE getting RICHER... the poor are getting POORER... if that makes me a Marxist then so be it. The rich have never had it so good as the current times.... yet keep whining they are overtaxed. Pure bs.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Cold hard facts: The rich ARE getting RICHER... the poor are getting POORER... if that makes me a Marxist then so be it. The rich have never had it so good as the current times.... yet keep whining they are overtaxed. Pure bs.

Not all rich are getting richer... and not all poor are getting poorer.

But Fascism (Socialism) always results in the destruction of the middle class. It can't result in anything else.

 

[rdean]

Cold hard facts: The rich ARE getting RICHER... the poor are getting POORER... if that makes me a Marxist then so be it. The rich have never had it so good as the current times.... yet keep whining they are overtaxed. Pure bs.

Not all rich are getting richer... and not all poor are getting poorer.

But Fascism (Socialism) always results in the destruction of the middle class. It can't result in anything else.

No one is destroying the middle class better than the GOP.