How Much Freedom Are You Willing To Give Up To Fight Terrorism?

[g5000]

Our country lost its collective mind after 9/11 and jumped on board the Patriot Act train. Torture; imprisoning US citizens without habeas corpus; flag pin blacklists; wiretapping US citizens by the millions; three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), including the pre-emptive invasion of another country; the creation of a massive new Cabinet level police agency; the militarization of state, county, and local police; and so forth.

I have said a few times that in the basement of the US Capitol there is a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.™

Meter maids will be shooting double-parkers. The FBI will be doing "drop-ins" to ask why there has been a sudden spike in the amount of milk you put in your cereal. Armbands will be the new black. Sean Hannity will be denying bamboo shoots under your fingernails is torture.

Someone has put the idea in a lot of pointy heads that there would be no casualties of the good guys during the War on Terror™. But it has been an inevitable fact there would be, and will be more.

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

Hint: If you go along with the forthcoming argument after the next attack that Muslims are not protected by the First Amendment, that counts as giving up some of your rights.

 

[BluesLegend]

How much liberal ideology is the left willing to give up to fight terrorism?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Our country lost its collective mind after 9/11 and jumped on board the Patriot Act train. Torture; imprisoning US citizens without habeas corpus; flag pin blacklists; wiretapping US citizens by the millions; three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), including the pre-emptive invasion of another country; the creation of a massive new Cabinet level police agency; the militarization of state, county, and local police; and so forth.

I have said a few times that in the basement of the US Capitol there is a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.™

Meter maids will be shooting double-parkers. The FBI will be doing "drop-ins" to ask why there has been a sudden spike in the amount of milk you put in your cereal. Armbands will be the new black. Sean Hannity will be denying bamboo shoots under your fingernails is torture.

Someone has put the idea in a lot of pointy heads that there would be no casualties of the good guys during the War on Terror™. But it has been an inevitable fact there would be, and will be more.

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

Hint: If you go along with the forthcoming argument after the next attack that Muslims are not protected by the First Amendment, that counts as giving up some of your rights.

Maybe if we didnt have a terrorist sympathizer for a president we wouldnt be where we are now.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

dear, you are not giving up freedom when you fight the Caliphate but you are giving it up when you let them cut your head off while you are alive!!

 

[Timmy]

Our country lost its collective mind after 9/11 and jumped on board the Patriot Act train. Torture; imprisoning US citizens without habeas corpus; flag pin blacklists; wiretapping US citizens by the millions; three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), including the pre-emptive invasion of another country; the creation of a massive new Cabinet level police agency; the militarization of state, county, and local police; and so forth.

I have said a few times that in the basement of the US Capitol there is a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.™

Meter maids will be shooting double-parkers. The FBI will be doing "drop-ins" to ask why there has been a sudden spike in the amount of milk you put in your cereal. Armbands will be the new black. Sean Hannity will be denying bamboo shoots under your fingernails is torture.

Someone has put the idea in a lot of pointy heads that there would be no casualties of the good guys during the War on Terror™. But it has been an inevitable fact there would be, and will be more.

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

Hint: If you go along with the forthcoming argument after the next attack that Muslims are not protected by the First Amendment, that counts as giving up some of your rights.

Maybe if we didnt have a terrorist sympathizer for a president we wouldnt be where we are now.

The filth that comes out of you Conservatards is disgusting .

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The filth that comes out of you Conservatards is disgusting .

typical liberal too stupid for substance. too stupid to even know a reason is necessary!!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"How Much Freedom Are You Willing To Give Up To Fight Terrorism?"

One hopes this is rhetorical.

No American should agree to surrender any of his freedom for the illusion of 'security,' or the illusion that 'terrorism' is being successfully addressed as a consequence of surrendering one's freedom.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How much liberal ideology is the left willing to give up to fight terrorism?

This fails as a non sequitur fallacy, in addition to being moronic and ridiculous.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Our country lost its collective mind after 9/11 and jumped on board the Patriot Act train. Torture; imprisoning US citizens without habeas corpus; flag pin blacklists; wiretapping US citizens by the millions; three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), including the pre-emptive invasion of another country; the creation of a massive new Cabinet level police agency; the militarization of state, county, and local police; and so forth.

I have said a few times that in the basement of the US Capitol there is a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.™

Meter maids will be shooting double-parkers. The FBI will be doing "drop-ins" to ask why there has been a sudden spike in the amount of milk you put in your cereal. Armbands will be the new black. Sean Hannity will be denying bamboo shoots under your fingernails is torture.

Someone has put the idea in a lot of pointy heads that there would be no casualties of the good guys during the War on Terror™. But it has been an inevitable fact there would be, and will be more.

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

Hint: If you go along with the forthcoming argument after the next attack that Muslims are not protected by the First Amendment, that counts as giving up some of your rights.

Maybe if we didnt have a terrorist sympathizer for a president we wouldnt be where we are now.

Obviously many on the right are interested only in exhibiting their ignorance and stupidity.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

If we need to preserve freedom at all costs, according to you, then our country may very well be the price we pay. I will be the first to say that freedom is never absolute.

We must have the freedom to defend ourselves and retaliate when and if our turn comes again. We must never place absolute freedom above the defense of our country.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The filth that comes out of you Conservatards is disgusting .

typical liberal too stupid for substance. too stupid to even know a reason is necessary!!

And many on the right are consistent at exhibiting their ignorance and stupidity.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Our country lost its collective mind after 9/11 and jumped on board the Patriot Act train. Torture; imprisoning US citizens without habeas corpus; flag pin blacklists; wiretapping US citizens by the millions; three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), including the pre-emptive invasion of another country; the creation of a massive new Cabinet level police agency; the militarization of state, county, and local police; and so forth.

I have said a few times that in the basement of the US Capitol there is a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.™

Meter maids will be shooting double-parkers. The FBI will be doing "drop-ins" to ask why there has been a sudden spike in the amount of milk you put in your cereal. Armbands will be the new black. Sean Hannity will be denying bamboo shoots under your fingernails is torture.

Someone has put the idea in a lot of pointy heads that there would be no casualties of the good guys during the War on Terror™. But it has been an inevitable fact there would be, and will be more.

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

Hint: If you go along with the forthcoming argument after the next attack that Muslims are not protected by the First Amendment, that counts as giving up some of your rights.

Maybe if we didnt have a terrorist sympathizer for a president we wouldnt be where we are now.

The filth that comes out of you Conservatards is disgusting .

Thanks Asaratis...
President Obama:
This is why you didn't go to France to show solidarity against the Muslim terrorists:
· It was you who spoke these words at an Islamic dinner -"I am one of you."
· It was you who on ABC News referenced -"My Muslim faith ."
· It was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build foreign mosques.
· It was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict-"I will stand with the Muslims ."
· It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that -"I am a Muslim ."
· It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
· It was you who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
· It was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay.
· It was you who purposefully omitted - "endowed by our Creator " - from your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.
· It was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's Sermon On The Mount while repeatedly referring to the 'HOLY' Qur'an.
· It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America.
· It was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.
· It was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the White House.
· It was you who ordered Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited to adjust their decor.
· It was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.
· It was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.
· It was you who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an outreach to Muslim communities.
· It was you who as an Illinois Senator was the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.
· It was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the White House, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.
· It was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.
· It was you who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.
· It is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.
· It was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
· It was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
· It was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
· It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help "empower" the British Muslim community.
· It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.
· It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.
· It is you who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.
· It was you who was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly America's strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
· It was you who appointed your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, an Iranian, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
· It was you who said this country is not a Christian nation.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Our country lost its collective mind after 9/11 and jumped on board the Patriot Act train. Torture; imprisoning US citizens without habeas corpus; flag pin blacklists; wiretapping US citizens by the millions; three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), including the pre-emptive invasion of another country; the creation of a massive new Cabinet level police agency; the militarization of state, county, and local police; and so forth.

I have said a few times that in the basement of the US Capitol there is a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.™

Meter maids will be shooting double-parkers. The FBI will be doing "drop-ins" to ask why there has been a sudden spike in the amount of milk you put in your cereal. Armbands will be the new black. Sean Hannity will be denying bamboo shoots under your fingernails is torture.

Someone has put the idea in a lot of pointy heads that there would be no casualties of the good guys during the War on Terror™. But it has been an inevitable fact there would be, and will be more.

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

Hint: If you go along with the forthcoming argument after the next attack that Muslims are not protected by the First Amendment, that counts as giving up some of your rights.

Maybe if we didnt have a terrorist sympathizer for a president we wouldnt be where we are now.

Obviously many on the right are interested only in exhibiting their ignorance and stupidity.

President Obama:
This is why you didn't go to France to show solidarity against the Muslim terrorists:
· It was you who spoke these words at an Islamic dinner -"I am one of you."
· It was you who on ABC News referenced -"My Muslim faith ."
· It was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build foreign mosques.
· It was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict-"I will stand with the Muslims ."
· It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that -"I am a Muslim ."
· It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
· It was you who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
· It was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay.
· It was you who purposefully omitted - "endowed by our Creator " - from your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.
· It was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's Sermon On The Mount while repeatedly referring to the 'HOLY' Qur'an.
· It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America.
· It was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.
· It was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the White House.
· It was you who ordered Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited to adjust their decor.
· It was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.
· It was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.
· It was you who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an outreach to Muslim communities.
· It was you who as an Illinois Senator was the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.
· It was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the White House, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.
· It was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.
· It was you who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.
· It is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.
· It was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
· It was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
· It was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
· It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help "empower" the British Muslim community.
· It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.
· It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.
· It is you who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.
· It was you who was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly America's strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
· It was you who appointed your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, an Iranian, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
· It was you who said this country is not a Christian nation.

 

[BluesLegend]

How much liberal ideology is the left willing to give up to fight terrorism?

This fails as a non sequitur fallacy, in addition to being moronic and ridiculous.

Translation, I gut punched liberals and this pissed you off.

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is the question.

If there was ever a chance for a fascist takeover, a restriction on freedom without a congressional declaration of war would be the likely path.

 

[Timmy]

The filth that comes out of you Conservatards is disgusting .

typical liberal too stupid for substance. too stupid to even know a reason is necessary!!

Substance ?!? You called the prez a terrorist sympathizer . You're as bad as 911 conspiracy kooks.

 

[Timmy]

Great example of conservative hypocrisy . Obama moves on terrorists it's an "illegal war". Then 5 minutes later "Obama isn't doing enough!".

 

[JakeStarkey]

With a congressional delcaration ofwar, the statement such as made by Edward or by HWGA become actionable, as they should be. They wish to use this genuine emergency to overthrow constitutional government.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So when our turn comes around again, how much more of your freedoms will you be willing to give up?

If we need to preserve freedom at all costs, then our country may very well be the price we pay. I will be the first to say that freedom is never absolute.

We must have the freedom to defend ourselves and retaliate when and if our turn comes again. We must never place absolute freedom above the defense of our country.

No one is arguing that freedom is 'absolute,' nor is anyone arguing that we shouldn't defend our country.

The issue concerns implementing unwarranted policies and measures which would further erode our freedoms, compromise our privacy, and result in only increasing the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty.