How to defeat the Islamist fanatics

SassyIrishLass

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Ralph Peters makes valid points. The very first thing that needs to be done is calling it what it is....Islamic terrorism. You cannot defeat an enemy you lack the courage to name.

Declare war. A future president needs to ask Congress for a declaration of war against all jihadi organizations that threaten to attack the United States, our military, our citizens or our interests. No phony limits, such as just declaring war only on ISIS or al Qaeda (names change). All violent jihadis who target us, now or in the future, are mortal enemies.

Call out double-crossing allies. No more free rides for states that sponsor terrorism

Surveillance is essential

Criminalize Internet jihad.

Treat Muslims exactly as we would any other Americans.
They have to choose between the US Constitution and Sharia law.

Our response to jihad must be violent abroad, sensible at home, intellectually honest, patient and relentless. We must stop making excuses for inexcusable behavior, and we must always put the right of American citizens to safety and security above the imaginary rights of terrorists. We must break the infernal alliance between political correctness and fanatical Islam. (Didn’t Orlando teach the left that terrorists don’t play favorites?)

We can win, but we have to fight.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/14/how-to-defeat-the-islamist-fanatics/
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

If the moderates don't step up then they are complacent and should be treated as such
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
Who is attacking the terrorists? The best of the best?
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
Who is attacking the terrorists? The best of the best?

So the answer is, no one on the left?
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
Who is attacking the terrorists? The best of the best?

So the answer is, no one on the left?
When I say attacking I mean militarily....not with babble from Obabble.
 
Ralph Peters makes valid points. The very first thing that needs to be done is calling it what it is....Islamic terrorism. You cannot defeat an enemy you lack the courage to name.

Declare war. A future president needs to ask Congress for a declaration of war against all jihadi organizations that threaten to attack the United States, our military, our citizens or our interests. No phony limits, such as just declaring war only on ISIS or al Qaeda (names change). All violent jihadis who target us, now or in the future, are mortal enemies.

You can't declare war on an undefined enemy, for one...and " that threaten to attack the United States, our military, our citizens or our interests" is so wide open and vague it is subject to extreme abuse. This is not a problem conventional warfare alone will solve. There is no state you can attack. Identifying and going after groups individually is what is needed and what is being done currently. Identifying and going after finances, communications, etc - figuring out how to combat ISIS' propoganda and recruiting, going after their leaders and important members. Probably most important - coordination and sharing of information around the world.

Call out double-crossing allies. No more free rides for states that sponsor terrorism

Easier said then done because some of those states who might sponsor terrorism in one area also provide valuable intelligence or services in attacking terrorism in another area.

Surveillance is essential

Survellience of who or what and, how would you balance that with our rights and freedoms? What's acceptable to you?

Criminalize Internet jihad.

This one is interesting and tricky and I'm not the fence. One poster mentioned treating it like child porn on computers. You'd have to clearly identify what it is - not have some vague term like "internet jihad" and you'd probably have to include all attempts at ideologically promoted violence against...what, the US?

Treat Muslims exactly as we would any other Americans. They have to choose between the US Constitution and Sharia law.

We already do - we do not tell other Americans they must choose between US Constitution and the Bible, or US Constitution and Halacha. We assume (as we should) that as American citizens, they will obey our laws and that is all we should demand of anybody.

Our response to jihad must be violent abroad, sensible at home, intellectually honest, patient and relentless. We must stop making excuses for inexcusable behavior, and we must always put the right of American citizens to safety and security above the imaginary rights of terrorists. We must break the infernal alliance between political correctness and fanatical Islam. (Didn’t Orlando teach the left that terrorists don’t play favorites?)

We can win, but we have to fight.

How to defeat the Islamist fanatics | New York Post

No one gives rights to criminal terrorists (beyond what rights are given to any citizen who commits a crime) - at least not that I have heard.
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die

"Terrorists" have the same rights as any other criminal and the penalties are determined by our justice system and the laws in place.
 
My take is that Obama hides behind religious Islam...whereas Zudhi Jasser identifies the problem as political Islam. There is a difference. The Libtards do the same thing when they whine about Trump banning Muslims on religious ground.

Muslims coming to America can keep their religion....but they must pledge allegiance to the USA...or go back home.
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die

"Terrorists" have the same rights as any other criminal and the penalties are determined by our justice system and the laws in place.

Not in a war.
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
Who is attacking the terrorists? The best of the best?

So the answer is, no one on the left?
When I say attacking I mean militarily....not with babble from Obabble.

The coalition against ISIS has rolled them back out of half their territorial gains.

Obama is killing ISIS fighters almost every day. Is that what you mean?
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die

"Terrorists" have the same rights as any other criminal and the penalties are determined by our justice system and the laws in place.

Not in a war.
Coyote didn't read what the man said...
 
The biggest problem, as I see it, isn't the actual Jihadists but the huge number of leftist regressives in the western world who see their duty as defending them.

They act like a figurative offensive line protecting the quarterback.

Their thick little skulls are absolutely impenetrable.

Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die

"Terrorists" have the same rights as any other criminal and the penalties are determined by our justice system and the laws in place.

Not in a war.

You are going to declare a nebulous poorly defined war within and without our country, that has the potential to remove fundamental rights of a lot of people, in particular American citizens - without due process. You don't find that a scary and excessive amount of power given to the government?
 
Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die

"Terrorists" have the same rights as any other criminal and the penalties are determined by our justice system and the laws in place.

Not in a war.
Coyote didn't read what the man said...

Yeah, right of the bat he says declare war. When that happens it's an entire new ball game
 
Who's defending the terrorists?
They think recognizing that everyone has rights is equivalent to defending terrorists.

The only right that someone who plans to commit terrorism has is to die

"Terrorists" have the same rights as any other criminal and the penalties are determined by our justice system and the laws in place.

Not in a war.
Coyote didn't read what the man said...

I read what Sassy posted.
 

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