How to deprogram America's extremists

[marvin martian]

No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!

My guess is that the quickest way to deal with this -- and this would be tough enough -- is for each end to hold its own accountable far more aggressively. People and groups like Antifa and Trumpsters gain influence because their own sides make excuses for them, avoid talking about them, spin for them, even attack for them. Obviously that has to end, because all it does is enable more destructive behavior.

Also obviously, the Trumpsters have far more control over the GQP than Antifa has over the Dems. The Trumpsters essentially control their party now. That should be a cautionary tale. The Democrats can't let that happen to them. But it's already beginning.

Perhaps you can set up a program for children to "help" their parents by reporting double plus ungood bad think to the Thought Police?

Seig Heil Mac, you are a model Nazi!

Why involve the government, commie?

Why are you so dependent on government, comrade?

Oh, you just want to go out and lynch everyone who disagrees with you directly. Get the rope and the gas, Cletus!

 

[Lastamender]

I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.

This should be the #1 initiative in this country.

We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.

Trumpism must be eradicated.

Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.

Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.

Schools not opening.

I've not seen Biden saying anything other than that we must get all of our kids back in school - Quickly and SAFELY.
Party of that means inoculating teachers and providing funding to give school districts the resources they need.

The CDC already said the teachers don't need to be vaccinated to safely open the schools. But you anti-science flat-earthers still have them closed.

Politics and the Teacher's Union are more important than our children. They are ruining lives and kids are taking their own lives. Lot of blood on these fascists hands already.

 

[Mac1958]

No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!

My guess is that the quickest way to deal with this -- and this would be tough enough -- is for each end to hold its own accountable far more aggressively. People and groups like Antifa and Trumpsters gain influence because their own sides make excuses for them, avoid talking about them, spin for them, even attack for them. Obviously that has to end, because all it does is enable more destructive behavior.

Also obviously, the Trumpsters have far more control over the GQP than Antifa has over the Dems. The Trumpsters essentially control their party now. That should be a cautionary tale. The Democrats can't let that happen to them. But it's already beginning.

Perhaps you can set up a program for children to "help" their parents by reporting double plus ungood bad think to the Thought Police?

Seig Heil Mac, you are a model Nazi!

Why involve the government, commie?

Why are you so dependent on government, comrade?

Oh, you just want to go out and lynch everyone who disagrees with you directly. Get the rope and the gas, Cletus!

Wow, a commie and a murderer.

I already knew you people were sick, but you really need to control your emotions.

 

[marvin martian]

Wow, a commie and a murderer.

It always goes hand in hand with you people.

 

[Mac1958]

Wow, a commie and a murderer.

It always goes hand in hand with you people.

But it's you guys doing it.

You really need to get a grip. You want to kill people. Get help.

 

[The Irish Ram]

DrLove, Re-education camps sounds a bit shady. Why not call them, Vocational Education and Training Centers, so people can identify what your proposing?

 

[DrLove]

60,000+ of us dead from Covid in three weeks, while China Joe ignores it and orders the media to cover it up. Your president is on track to kill over a million of us with Covid this year alone, and you won't even discuss it.

I'd be happy to discuss it. Biden was handed a crap sandwich, not only with the COVIDS but with all the other damage done by the Dithering Dotard. He's taking steps to fix things, using the military for distribution and inoculation and invoking the DPA to provide companies like Pfizer the resources and funding they need. We're on the right trajectory!

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[DrLove]

I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.

This should be the #1 initiative in this country.

We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.

Trumpism must be eradicated.

Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.

Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.

Schools not opening.

I've not seen Biden saying anything other than that we must get all of our kids back in school - Quickly and SAFELY.
Party of that means inoculating teachers and providing funding to give school districts the resources they need.

The CDC already said the teachers don't need to be vaccinated to safely open the schools. But you anti-science flat-earthers still have them closed.

Schools are reopening - Teachers in many districts are pushing back because they want funding for proper mitigation and they'd like to be vaccinated. That has nothing to do with Biden. He's working on that as part of COVID relief package. Trump had a year to do absolutely nothing. The professionals are in charge now instead of the quacks and deniers.

 

[Richard-H]

We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.

It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.​

​

Two key measures that could make a difference:​

• Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
  • Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.

​

Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.​

• Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
  • Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.

​

The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.​

• "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
  • The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
  • When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.

​

Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.​

• New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
  • Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
  • Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.

​

One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."​

• Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.

How to deprogram America's extremists

What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.

www.axios.com

While I agree with this in principle, the real issue is:

How do we fix 'Stupid'?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why involve the government, commie?

Why are you so dependent on government, comrade?

What a pathetic response.

No wonder you usually stick to doing a "Bobble head" nod to whatever the Reich says..

 

[The Irish Ram]

We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.

It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.​

​

Two key measures that could make a difference:​

• Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
  • Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.

​

Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.​

• Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
  • Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.

​

The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.​

• "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
  • The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
  • When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.

​

Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.​

• New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
  • Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
  • Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.

​

One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."​

• Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.

How to deprogram America's extremists

What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.

www.axios.com

I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.

This should be the #1 initiative in this country.

We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.

Trumpism must be eradicated.

So, the # 1 goal in this country is to round up million and millions of Trump supporters and eradicate them. Starting with all those seditionists that showed up at all of his rallies, right?
By what means do you propose to do that?
What happens when the camps are full and boxcars of alternate fact spewers and global warming nonconformists are waiting to be unloaded? What would you do if you were in charge of one of the reeducation camps? What are you going to do with the hopelessly brainwashed that keep blattering on about the election being stolen?
Can you be more specific about your suggestions?

 

[DrLove]

I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.

This should be the #1 initiative in this country.

We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.

Trumpism must be eradicated.

Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.

Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.

Schools not opening.

I've not seen Biden saying anything other than that we must get all of our kids back in school - Quickly and SAFELY.
Party of that means inoculating teachers and providing funding to give school districts the resources they need.

The CDC already said the teachers don't need to be vaccinated to safely open the schools. But you anti-science flat-earthers still have them closed.

Politics and the Teacher's Union are more important than our children. They are ruining lives and kids are taking their own lives. Lot of blood on these fascists hands already.

Okay, lets compare the number of kids who've taken their lives to the 450,000 dead thanks to Donald's botched response.

 

[Mac1958]

Why involve the government, commie?

Why are you so dependent on government, comrade?

What a pathetic response.

No wonder you usually stick to doing a "Bobble head" nod to whatever the Reich says..

When did you become a commie?

 

[Uncensored2008]

But it's you guys doing it.

You really need to get a grip. You want to kill people. Get help.

Doing what, Herr Himmler? Calling for "reeducation camps?"

 

[Uncensored2008]

When did you become a commie?

When did you become a retard?

 

[marvin martian]

Wow, a commie and a murderer.

It always goes hand in hand with you people.

But it's you guys doing it.

You really need to get a grip. You want to kill people. Get help.

You're the one covering up for the government while 60,000+ of us died from Covid in the last three weeks. Instead, you're here talking about how even more of us need to die because we don't agree with your politics. Hillary had you pegged when she said 32 million Americans had to die because they supported Trump.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[DrLove]

While I agree with this in principle, the real issue is:

How do we fix 'Stupid'?

That's a long, difficult slog my friend.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[The Banker]

We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.

It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.​

​

Two key measures that could make a difference:​

• Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
  • Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.

​

Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.​

• Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
  • Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.

​

The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.​

• "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
  • The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
  • When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.

​

Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.​

• New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
  • Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
  • Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.

​

One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."​

• Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.

How to deprogram America's extremists

What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.

www.axios.com

Great post.

The problem is these dumb fucking idiots will believe any lie Trump or Alex Jones tells them, no matter how crazy.

"This is nothing it will all go away"
"We're rounding the curve"
"We won in a landslide"
Pizzagate!
The School shooting was a setup and some Liberal went into that school and started gunning down kids...
Uranium one

and the list goes on and on and on....

Republicans are a complete and total disgrace, and they are so stupid they believe any lie Trump tells them, until that changes these people are totally gone.

They should be thrown in prison, they are a threat to America