Huma Abedin broke the law by forwarding classified materials to her husband. He had no clearance...

[westwall]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

 

[Lewdog]

I included this, you can't claim they didn't knowingly transmit classified information over unsecured lines.

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

"I" don't have to. The guy that matters, Comey, said there isn't enough evidence to prove they did in order to convict them.

 

[Lewdog]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

 

[depotoo]

Under duress, from Lynch, knowing she would never bring forth charges, as she would do most anything to protect them.

I included this, you can't claim they didn't knowingly transmit classified information over unsecured lines.

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

"I" don't have to. The guy that matters, Comey, said there isn't enough evidence to prove they did in order to convict them.

 

[depotoo]

Would you believe that his computer was on the same secure network, as the classified governments was?

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

 

[percysunshine]

Obviously these people are too stupid to intentionally commit felonies.

Yet not so stupid that they get punished for commiting felonies.

 

[depotoo]

And, lewdog, seeing as he was under investigation, what would make any reasonable person think, with that looming, he might not use such as blackmail in any way, shape or form.

 

[Lewdog]

Would you believe that his computer was on the same secure network, as the classified governments was?

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

That still is not defined under the law. In order for them to be prosecuted for it, they would have to prove mens rea... Comey said Huma didn't have intent to share classified material with anyone, she just forwarded it so that it could be printed off.

Do I personally think someone should be in trouble for mishandling classified information? Yep, But do I think people in government should prosecute people willy nilly when it doesn't fit under the law? Nope.

Gowdy is just saying whatever he wants because he has a hard on to bust Clinton because he couldn't get her on the Benghazi stuff.

Once again I think she should have gotten punished for Benghazi... but you can't be vindictive and push the envelope of laws just to get revenge on someone for something else.

 

[Lewdog]

And, lewdog, seeing as he was under investigation, what would make any reasonable person think, with that looming, he might not use such as blackmail in any way, shape or form.

If Weiner admitted he had read the emails and was going to use them as material to save his own ass, he would be admitting to other crimes...

 

[Manonthestreet]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Proving mens rea was not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Gowdy Rips FBI Director Comey On 'Intent'

Not to mention her actions do prove intent,,some of her quotes prove it was on purpose only an abject liar or someone Hilly has the dirt on would claim otherwise

 

[airplanemechanic]

No, that's not intent. That's whether you knew you did it or not.

I can knowingly and willfully do something and it not be the intent that you think it is.

 

[Manonthestreet]

We are still finding Hilly emails after how times we were told thats all.....intent writ large

 

[westwall]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

Her HUSBAND, wasn't. Pay attention.

 

[Cellblock2429]

He said trying to prove intent was difficult, particularly when the ag had stated she would keep the investigation from getting very far, in an email he got access to.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

/---- since when is intent necessary to prove she violated national security?

 

[Lewdog]

No, that's not intent. That's whether you knew you did it or not.

I can knowingly and willfully do something and it not be the intent that you think it is.

Yes, "willfully and knowingly" does describe intent.

"intent
n. mental desire and will to act in a particular way, including wishing not to participate. Intent is a crucial element in determining if certain acts were criminal. Occasionally a judge or jury may find that "there was no criminal intent." Example: lack of intent may reduce a charge of manslaughter to a finding of reckless homicide or other lesser crime."

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

 

[westwall]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

Doesn't matter. Comey overstepped his job. He is an investigator. He doesn't make the decision about whether to indict someone or not. That is the job of the prosecutor who,. lo and behold, was a BFF of obummer. In other words it is as clear a case of official corruption as you can witness in a supposed Republic. This is just more evidence of obummers attempts to turn this country into yet another banana republic.

 

[Lewdog]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

Her HUSBAND, wasn't. Pay attention.

I already told you... Comey said they can't prove her HUSBAND read the emails with the information and that he thought he didn't. In order to prosecute her for it they would have to prove he read it. I already said this. Funny you are saying I'm not paying attention and reading everything when you ignored this.

 

[westwall]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

Her HUSBAND, wasn't. Pay attention.

I already told you... Comey said they can't prove her HUSBAND read the emails with the information and that he thought he didn't. In order to prosecute her for it they would have to prove he read it. I already said this. Funny you are saying I'm not paying attention and reading everything when you ignored this.

And, like I told you. IT DOESN'T MATTER!

 

[Manonthestreet]

No, that's not intent. That's whether you knew you did it or not.

I can knowingly and willfully do something and it not be the intent that you think it is.

Yes, "willfully and knowingly" does describe intent.

"intent
n. mental desire and will to act in a particular way, including wishing not to participate. Intent is a crucial element in determining if certain acts were criminal. Occasionally a judge or jury may find that "there was no criminal intent." Example: lack of intent may reduce a charge of manslaughter to a finding of reckless homicide or other lesser crime."

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

doesnt change fact a crime was committed and prosecuted....you never hear a defendant claim innocent due to lack of intent

 

[Lewdog]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

Yes, and you ignored THIS part of the law.... Remember, commas MEAN something....



",or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person"

Huma was authorized... and Comey said he can't prove Weiner read them. In fact he stated he doesn't think he read them.

Doesn't matter. Comey overstepped his job. He is an investigator. He doesn't make the decision about whether to indict someone or not. That is the job of the prosecutor who,. lo and behold, was a BFF of obummer. In other words it is as clear a case of official corruption as you can witness in a supposed Republic. This is just more evidence of obummers attempts to turn this country into yet another banana republic.

Did you watch the hearing? He went over this. He said that when he found out about the email where someone said that Lynch would do whatever to stop the prosecution and her meeting with Bill on the plane, Comey told Lynch he wasn't going to tell her what he was going to say in his press briefing. It was up to him whether to recommend to the AG to prosecute, and he said no.