Hunter Biden

[The Original Tree]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

Exonerated and Acquitted Trump will be forever Exonerated and Acquitted, but Hunter Biden will be forever Convicted.

LOLOL

You're crazy, Stumpy.

Hunter Biden's not been convicted.

And Impeached Trump will forever be impeached. Even if acquitted by the Senate.

Hunter Biden is already being investigated for Tax Evasion, Child Support, and Illegal Payments. He has also been ordered to produce records of his Burisma Income.

Dead Man Walking. Soon to Be Indicted Hunter Biden will be Forever Convicted.

While Acquitted and Exonerated Trump will be forever Acquitted and Exonerated and Vindicated.

^^^ a dumbfucking tree stump who doesn't understand the difference between "investigation" and "conviction."

 

[Slade3200]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

Exonerated and Acquitted Trump will be forever Exonerated and Acquitted, but Hunter Biden will be forever Convicted.

LOLOL

You're crazy, Stumpy.

Hunter Biden's not been convicted.

And Impeached Trump will forever be impeached. Even if acquitted by the Senate.

Hunter Biden is already being investigated for Tax Evasion, Child Support, and Illegal Payments. He has also been ordered to produce records of his Burisma Income.

Dead Man Walking. Soon to Be Indicted Hunter Biden will be Forever Convicted.

While Acquitted and Exonerated Trump will be forever Acquitted and Exonerated and Vindicated.

^^^ a dumbfucking tree stump who doesn't understand the difference between "investigation" and "conviction."

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

 

[The Original Tree]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

Exonerated and Acquitted Trump will be forever Exonerated and Acquitted, but Hunter Biden will be forever Convicted.

LOLOL

You're crazy, Stumpy.

Hunter Biden's not been convicted.

And Impeached Trump will forever be impeached. Even if acquitted by the Senate.

Hunter Biden is already being investigated for Tax Evasion, Child Support, and Illegal Payments. He has also been ordered to produce records of his Burisma Income.

Dead Man Walking. Soon to Be Indicted Hunter Biden will be Forever Convicted.

While Acquitted and Exonerated Trump will be forever Acquitted and Exonerated and Vindicated.

^^^ a dumbfucking tree stump who doesn't understand the difference between "investigation" and "conviction."

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

 

[Slade3200]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

LOLOL

You're crazy, Stumpy.

Hunter Biden's not been convicted.

And Impeached Trump will forever be impeached. Even if acquitted by the Senate.

Hunter Biden is already being investigated for Tax Evasion, Child Support, and Illegal Payments. He has also been ordered to produce records of his Burisma Income.

Dead Man Walking. Soon to Be Indicted Hunter Biden will be Forever Convicted.

While Acquitted and Exonerated Trump will be forever Acquitted and Exonerated and Vindicated.

^^^ a dumbfucking tree stump who doesn't understand the difference between "investigation" and "conviction."

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

 

[The Original Tree]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

Hunter Biden is already being investigated for Tax Evasion, Child Support, and Illegal Payments. He has also been ordered to produce records of his Burisma Income.

Dead Man Walking. Soon to Be Indicted Hunter Biden will be Forever Convicted.

While Acquitted and Exonerated Trump will be forever Acquitted and Exonerated and Vindicated.

^^^ a dumbfucking tree stump who doesn't understand the difference between "investigation" and "conviction."

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

You talked about a cell and Hillary Clinton and I gave historical facts that prove Hillary and Hitler have nearly Identical political careers.

Every Democrat is 5 Degrees from Adolph Hitler.

 

[Slade3200]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

^^^ a dumbfucking tree stump who doesn't understand the difference between "investigation" and "conviction."

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

You talked about a cell and Hillary Clinton and I gave historical facts that prove Hillary and Hitler have nearly Identical political careers.

Every Democrat is 5 Degrees from Adolph Hitler.

yes I asked how long you all are going to keep her locked up. You didn’t answer

 

[The Original Tree]

Criminally Investigated Hunter Leads
To Criminally Indicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Convicted Hunter, leads
To Criminally Incarcerated Hunter

Forever Criminally Investigated Hunter will be Forever Criminally Incarcerated Hunter Forever.

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

You talked about a cell and Hillary Clinton and I gave historical facts that prove Hillary and Hitler have nearly Identical political careers.

Every Democrat is 5 Degrees from Adolph Hitler.

yes I asked how long you all are going to keep her locked up. You didn’t answer

She will be locked up in Hell Forever with her Political Father Hitler.

 

[Slade3200]

yeah right. They can give him a cell right next to Hillary, right? How long are y’all gonna keep her locked up BTW?

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

You talked about a cell and Hillary Clinton and I gave historical facts that prove Hillary and Hitler have nearly Identical political careers.

Every Democrat is 5 Degrees from Adolph Hitler.

yes I asked how long you all are going to keep her locked up. You didn’t answer

She will be locked up in Hell Forever with her Political Father Hitler.

oh ok, you meant lock her up in hell... not in jail for criminal activity. Ok, got it. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[The Original Tree]

Hillary and Hitler both refused to accept the results of elections they thought they had rigged, and both The Nazi Party and DemNazi Party immediately moved to remove the duly elected president from office that had bested them in their campaigns.

Yes, you are a Nazi. Embrace your genetic and immoral heritage.

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

You talked about a cell and Hillary Clinton and I gave historical facts that prove Hillary and Hitler have nearly Identical political careers.

Every Democrat is 5 Degrees from Adolph Hitler.

yes I asked how long you all are going to keep her locked up. You didn’t answer

She will be locked up in Hell Forever with her Political Father Hitler.

oh ok, you meant lock her up in hell... not in jail for criminal activity. Ok, got it. Thanks for clarifying.

Well, in THE END, that's all that really matters right? Because all that man built will be destroyed, including human government on judgment day. And The Wicked are separated from the righteous and the wicked are cast in to the fire.

 

[Slade3200]

Since your response had nothing to do with my question I will consider you owned and move on. Thanks for playing.

You talked about a cell and Hillary Clinton and I gave historical facts that prove Hillary and Hitler have nearly Identical political careers.

Every Democrat is 5 Degrees from Adolph Hitler.

yes I asked how long you all are going to keep her locked up. You didn’t answer

She will be locked up in Hell Forever with her Political Father Hitler.

oh ok, you meant lock her up in hell... not in jail for criminal activity. Ok, got it. Thanks for clarifying.

Well, in THE END, that's all that really matters right? Because all that man built will be destroyed, including human government on judgment day. And The Wicked are separated from the righteous and the wicked are cast in to the fire.

im not too worried as I made a deal with Santa Claus to come pick me up and let me live with him at the North Pole when I’ll that stuff goes down.

 

[iceberg]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

 

[Slade3200]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

 

[iceberg]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

i am not saying it isn't. i am saying it's not been proven that is what he is doing. *nothing* was found on trump in 2 years of looking. our FBI went out of their way to LOOK for things and make them up if they had to. however you feel about Russia - in my mind however this is just proof there wasn't a case valid enough to warrant all the attention it got.

yet, it set the standard that you really don't need proof. kavanaugh took it home. just accusations and that alone justifies whatever you must to do to prove them correct. if that is the case, it can't be a foul when done to the bidens. if you want to say "no we must play by the rules" i'm down - however that also means we need to prove trumps intent and put away the accusations are enough mantra.

the left, in my mind, want both to ensure they get what they want. i don't care who it's about or the why's behind it - this is simply a matter of saying NO to that process / mindset regardless of who it is aimed at. you let them do this to trump, you and i ain't got a shot in hell if they want to come at us for "whatever".

we protect the rights and processes - not people. so when i work on the process and base rights we all must adhere to, i'm told quite often i worship trump. except when i tell someone on the right to stop making shit up, then i'm a snowflake and obama lover.

to love the other side, all you gotta do anymore is not like any 1 small facet of your own side. fucked up world, isn't it? *we* have to put a focus on stopping that and when it comes up like this, remember defending the process isn't the same as defending trump.

they either had enough to move on in a normal world or they don't. to create abnormal situations to "scare" people to your side is how we got here.

the D"s had plenty of time to do whatever they needed to do to prove their case. if they failed to do it, sorry. move on.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal.

I agree, using a fiction-filled dossier to illegally obtain FISA warrants should not go unpunished.
Not to mention using the IRS to thwart Tea-Party groups.

that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

 

[Slade3200]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

i am not saying it isn't. i am saying it's not been proven that is what he is doing. *nothing* was found on trump in 2 years of looking. our FBI went out of their way to LOOK for things and make them up if they had to. however you feel about Russia - in my mind however this is just proof there wasn't a case valid enough to warrant all the attention it got.

yet, it set the standard that you really don't need proof. kavanaugh took it home. just accusations and that alone justifies whatever you must to do to prove them correct. if that is the case, it can't be a foul when done to the bidens. if you want to say "no we must play by the rules" i'm down - however that also means we need to prove trumps intent and put away the accusations are enough mantra.

the left, in my mind, want both to ensure they get what they want. i don't care who it's about or the why's behind it - this is simply a matter of saying NO to that process / mindset regardless of who it is aimed at. you let them do this to trump, you and i ain't got a shot in hell if they want to come at us for "whatever".

we protect the rights and processes - not people. so when i work on the process and base rights we all must adhere to, i'm told quite often i worship trump. except when i tell someone on the right to stop making shit up, then i'm a snowflake and obama lover.

to love the other side, all you gotta do anymore is not like any 1 small facet of your own side. fucked up world, isn't it? *we* have to put a focus on stopping that and when it comes up like this, remember defending the process isn't the same as defending trump.

they either had enough to move on in a normal world or they don't. to create abnormal situations to "scare" people to your side is how we got here.

the D"s had plenty of time to do whatever they needed to do to prove their case. if they failed to do it, sorry. move on.

I agree it is near impossible to prove intent, but what we can do is improve process and better define what process a president should take to initiate an investigation into a political enemy. Just like initiating any investigation there needs to be criteria and a process.

I don’t think you worship Trump. I’ve heard you be critical of him. You do defend him a lot which is just fine. I’m critical of him a lot. Doesn’t mean I hate him or that I’m suffering from derangement. We gotta take the megaphone away from the Parisan wingnuts

 

[progressive hunter]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

i am not saying it isn't. i am saying it's not been proven that is what he is doing. *nothing* was found on trump in 2 years of looking. our FBI went out of their way to LOOK for things and make them up if they had to. however you feel about Russia - in my mind however this is just proof there wasn't a case valid enough to warrant all the attention it got.

yet, it set the standard that you really don't need proof. kavanaugh took it home. just accusations and that alone justifies whatever you must to do to prove them correct. if that is the case, it can't be a foul when done to the bidens. if you want to say "no we must play by the rules" i'm down - however that also means we need to prove trumps intent and put away the accusations are enough mantra.

the left, in my mind, want both to ensure they get what they want. i don't care who it's about or the why's behind it - this is simply a matter of saying NO to that process / mindset regardless of who it is aimed at. you let them do this to trump, you and i ain't got a shot in hell if they want to come at us for "whatever".

we protect the rights and processes - not people. so when i work on the process and base rights we all must adhere to, i'm told quite often i worship trump. except when i tell someone on the right to stop making shit up, then i'm a snowflake and obama lover.

to love the other side, all you gotta do anymore is not like any 1 small facet of your own side. fucked up world, isn't it? *we* have to put a focus on stopping that and when it comes up like this, remember defending the process isn't the same as defending trump.

they either had enough to move on in a normal world or they don't. to create abnormal situations to "scare" people to your side is how we got here.

the D"s had plenty of time to do whatever they needed to do to prove their case. if they failed to do it, sorry. move on.

I agree it is near impossible to prove intent, but what we can do is improve process and better define what process a president should take to initiate an investigation into a political enemy. Just like initiating any investigation there needs to be criteria and a process.

I don’t think you worship Trump. I’ve heard you be critical of him. You do defend him a lot which is just fine. I’m critical of him a lot. Doesn’t mean I hate him or that I’m suffering from derangement. We gotta take the megaphone away from the Parisan wingnuts

you keep calling biden a political enemy, when in fact the real term should be former VP that has a long list of evidence showing several improprieties and possible criminal acts,,

and as president trump has a responsibility to investigate.

 

[colfax_m]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

Trump was demanding a public statement from Zelinsky. Evidence of personal, political intent.

 

[Slade3200]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.

i am not saying it isn't. i am saying it's not been proven that is what he is doing. *nothing* was found on trump in 2 years of looking. our FBI went out of their way to LOOK for things and make them up if they had to. however you feel about Russia - in my mind however this is just proof there wasn't a case valid enough to warrant all the attention it got.

yet, it set the standard that you really don't need proof. kavanaugh took it home. just accusations and that alone justifies whatever you must to do to prove them correct. if that is the case, it can't be a foul when done to the bidens. if you want to say "no we must play by the rules" i'm down - however that also means we need to prove trumps intent and put away the accusations are enough mantra.

the left, in my mind, want both to ensure they get what they want. i don't care who it's about or the why's behind it - this is simply a matter of saying NO to that process / mindset regardless of who it is aimed at. you let them do this to trump, you and i ain't got a shot in hell if they want to come at us for "whatever".

we protect the rights and processes - not people. so when i work on the process and base rights we all must adhere to, i'm told quite often i worship trump. except when i tell someone on the right to stop making shit up, then i'm a snowflake and obama lover.

to love the other side, all you gotta do anymore is not like any 1 small facet of your own side. fucked up world, isn't it? *we* have to put a focus on stopping that and when it comes up like this, remember defending the process isn't the same as defending trump.

they either had enough to move on in a normal world or they don't. to create abnormal situations to "scare" people to your side is how we got here.

the D"s had plenty of time to do whatever they needed to do to prove their case. if they failed to do it, sorry. move on.

I agree it is near impossible to prove intent, but what we can do is improve process and better define what process a president should take to initiate an investigation into a political enemy. Just like initiating any investigation there needs to be criteria and a process.

I don’t think you worship Trump. I’ve heard you be critical of him. You do defend him a lot which is just fine. I’m critical of him a lot. Doesn’t mean I hate him or that I’m suffering from derangement. We gotta take the megaphone away from the Parisan wingnuts

you keep calling biden a political enemy, when in fact the real term should be former VP that has a long list of evidence showing several improprieties and possible criminal acts,,

and as president trump has a responsibility to investigate.

I get that’s the narrative but we all know it’s bullshit and only being pushed because he is running against Trump.

 

[Bush92]

I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

Trump was demanding a public statement from Zelinsky. Evidence of personal, political intent.

Bullshit. Presidents of the United States going back to George Washington have conducted themselves in the same manner as Trump. Democrats are traitors to the Republic.

 

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I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.

To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?

Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?

then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.

if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?

i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.

yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.

Trump was demanding a public statement from Zelinsky. Evidence of personal, political intent.

his reasoning is that making Zelensky do the public announcement it would lock him into following through with the investigation.