I have seen the light

Those of us who do would appreciate it if they weren't shot dead.

The you'd better make sure your brats don't break into my house.
As if your house is the only place bullets fly.

Narrow minds foster narrow views, don't they skull?

I'm not going to shoot anyone who is not breaking into my house.

Here is the idiotic liberal all or nothing "logic" again.

Just because someone might shoot a gun, no one should have one.
 
I am really glad I found this forum. I get to watch, for free, two sides go at each other. Some have communication skills, others do not. The neat thing is there is no middle ground only polarized discussion.
 
I am really glad I found this forum. I get to watch, for free, two sides go at each other. Some have communication skills, others do not. The neat thing is there is no middle ground only polarized discussion.

Welcome to USMB.
 
I am really glad I found this forum. I get to watch, for free, two sides go at each other. Some have communication skills, others do not. The neat thing is there is no middle ground only polarized discussion.

Then share with us your coveted middle ground.
 

This was definitely one reason I didn't own a gun when the kids were little. Living in a good neighborhood helped a lot too.



I have never owned one and dont think I ever will.

I am just not that scared of life.

Yes the liberal labeling tactic.

All gun owners must be fearful.

YAWN.

Did you ever think that some people enjoy shooting and therefore own guns that can also be used in home defense?

I love skeet shooting and target shooting but I guess that just makes me afraid of life.
 
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This was definitely one reason I didn't own a gun when the kids were little. Living in a good neighborhood helped a lot too.



I have never owned one and dont think I ever will.

I am just not that scared of life.

I know what you mean. There's a very good chance I never will own one either, but respect the right of all mentally competent and properly trained folks to own one.
 
I am really glad I found this forum. I get to watch, for free, two sides go at each other. Some have communication skills, others do not. The neat thing is there is no middle ground only polarized discussion.

Then share with us your coveted middle ground.

It would be a useless exercise. It's not like you've ever considered the possibility that you're wrong. You consider anyone who disagrees with you liars, no matter how badly informed you are about a topic.

The rest of us are intelligent enough to understand the other positions, even if we don't agree with them.
 
I have been converted, years of common sense conservative and republican thought have won me over. I am saved. But I will need help as I transition a mind lost so long in liberalism. So please correct any lingering liberal ideas as I reform myself.

I now believe: Freedom is all you need and government should leave us alone. The Federal deficit started in 2009. Unions and teachers are the fault of our educational woes. Fannie and Freddie all by themselves caused the financial meltdown. The unemployed are not looking for jobs and are lazy to boot. Taxes are bad bad bad. Corporations are the best and really honest people. Global warming is a fraud made up by tree huggers. Our founding principles were perfect, Ms Bachmann showed me the way. Slavery was really kinda nice. Social Security, Medicare, and Healthcare are socialism. Minimum wage is too high and outsourcing is just great. Joe McCarthy was just one super guy. And Sarah, Glenn, and Michelle Bachmann are super patriots who really know history. Any criticism of American policy is anti American hate. Am I right so far?

So fellow conservatives, republicans, tea partyers, and righties, what have I missed? Help me see more of the light.


If you think this is correct about conservative thought, you are being played like a Stradivarius by left wing thought.
 
If you think this is correct about conservative thought, you are being played like a Stradivarius by left wing thought.

But of course he thinks that is correct about conservative thought. It's not like he has ever honestly questioned a thing in his life. Nor like he has made an honest argument. He, like so many of his friends, has to create straw men, red herrings, and caricatures in order to attack those they percieve to be enemies.

The truth is a foreign concept to way too many.
 
Yes -- Damn that homeowner for having things worth stealing - clearly, its HIS fault that the criminal broke in.
:cuckoo:

You do realize that you are talking to someone who thinks exactly that. There is an element of people in both parties who have no compunction using the force of government to rob from people who work for their money to give to those that dont, IE, Themselves.

It's always the people who work's fault that they have money while those robbers don't.

Robbers aren't any different just because they use government power to commit their crimes against the people. If they blame the person with positions to justify using government force to take those possessions, why would thinks change simply by eliminating the government factor?
I'm talking about blame for the mayhem.
Which lies squarely on the shoulders on the criminal.
He decides to obey the law, and nothing happens.
 
I'm talking about blame for the mayhem. You're over reaching to find some political point that just ain't there. You will serve yourself better if you just read what's in front of you and stop stretching a point to the breaking point.

So it's mayhem to shoot a fucking criminal breaking into your home so as to rape your wife and burn your house down?

A person defending himself does not cause mayhem because anything he does is caused by the fucking criminal who is violating the rights of the victim.
If, in the obvious confusion and stress of a situation like an intruder (you added the hyperbole about rape and arson, but let's play along), you decide the best course of action is to fire your semi-automatic handgun with a 30 round clip, I'd say (as most reasonable people might) that there would be MAYHEM.
-All- of which was instigated by the criminal.
Be honest.
 

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