I miss Trump

[Lesh]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

You don’t think water systems and broadband are infrastructure?!?! And you don’t know what Amtrak is??! Dude, you are getting dumber and dumber with each passing day.

Broadband is a consumer good. Our water systems are just fine. Amtrak is a boondoggle.

Broadband is the modern day highway system just as vital as the roads and mail system. If you don’t think it contributes to the Infrastructure of our country then you are brain dead. Perhaps you’ve been drinking too much water from Flint.

It's a consumer good. End of story.

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.

Ten billionaires reap $400bn boost to wealth during pandemic

Covid-19 pushed many into poverty but brought huge benefits for some of the wealthiest, renewing calls for fairer taxes

www.theguardian.com

I think the wealthy are doing alright..

Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?

Then why are you for it?

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

 

[bripat9643]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

The bill is no different to the trillion gave to his buddies in wall street and everyone else he paid. Trump refused to take questions on sensitive issues if you research the archives. He sent his barby doll to waffle through them .

The stimulus is to provide infrastructure and work for unemployed etc. Basically the same happened during the depression. The difference is trumps stimulus was trousered by the fat cats.
I understand you are still sour about getting beaten fairly but fabricating spurious points to justify it are pathetic. Get some facts first.

What "trillion" did Trump give to his buddies in Wall Street?

It's labelled as an infrastructure bill. We already had the stimulus, moron.

If you don't believe the fat cats are the primary beneficiaries of this bill, then you are a special kind of stupid.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LMFAO! You stupid Bitch!
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Typical leftist who promotes the beating of women

You really think typical Liberals promote the beating of women? Really?

Leftists not liberals. When you support trans women competing in sports vs biological women then you’re really not supporting women.

Why not? Are women largely against that effort? And what do sports have to do with promoting the beating of women?!

If you have to ask we really cannot have a logical discussion. Do your own research.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

The bill is no different to the trillion gave to his buddies in wall street and everyone else he paid. Trump refused to take questions on sensitive issues if you research the archives. He sent his barby doll to waffle through them .

The stimulus is to provide infrastructure and work for unemployed etc. Basically the same happened during the depression. The difference is trumps stimulus was trousered by the fat cats.
I understand you are still sour about getting beaten fairly but fabricating spurious points to justify it are pathetic. Get some facts first.

Bullshit for my job I had to listen daily at 5pm during COVID. He took every question. Fuck you, mother fucker. How about dem facts? Loser

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

Sure, $174B in electric vehicle charging stations. $115B for fixing roads and bridges. $80B for transit system. $80B for Amtrak repairs. $25B for airport upgrades. $17B for ports and waterways.

$213B to upgrade and repair homes and commercial buildings. 100B for broadband. $100B for public schools. $111B for water systems. $100B for the electric grid.

There’s plenty more but I don’t want to embarrass you too bad. 5%?!?! Ha

The $174 billion isn't for charging stations. It's for subsidies to buy EVs.

Amtrak should be flushed down the toilet. It's a money losing boondoggle.

Housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good. Why should the government spend money on commercial buildings? That's not infrastructure, and such spending would be a magnet for corruption.

By "the electric grid," they mean create the smart grid to make their impossible dreams of renewable energy sound feasible.

If government wants to provide deadbeats with internet, then let them give people who can't afford it a Starlink account. I'm sure it will be less than 10% of the cost.

Every state already has a budget for schooling, and the voters have approved countless bond issues that were supposed to provide for new buildings, including depreciation. Where did all the money go?

Providing "water systems" is the domain of state and local government. Aside from Flynt Michagan, the country has plenty of clean water.

You didn't embarass me. Like the Biden administration, you counted welfare and boondoggles as infrastructure.

We can debate the validity of each item but the fact remains there is far more than 5% going towards infrastructure. Just because you don’t think it’s necessary doesn’t mean it’s not infrastructure

Public housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good.

Wifi is also a consumer good. Anyone can get wifi if they are willing to pay for it. We don't need government to supply it. Dims are always complaining about monopolies, but then they are always creating them.

Amtrak is infrastructure, but it's a money losing boondoggle, and it will always be one.

 

[BluesLegend]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.

Ten billionaires reap $400bn boost to wealth during pandemic

Covid-19 pushed many into poverty but brought huge benefits for some of the wealthiest, renewing calls for fairer taxes

www.theguardian.com

I think the wealthy are doing alright..

Are you jealous?

 

[BluesLegend]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.

Ten billionaires reap $400bn boost to wealth during pandemic

Covid-19 pushed many into poverty but brought huge benefits for some of the wealthiest, renewing calls for fairer taxes

www.theguardian.com

I think the wealthy are doing alright..

Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?

Then why are you for it?

Lemming mentality the left are told what to think and they obey.

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

You don’t think water systems and broadband are infrastructure?!?! And you don’t know what Amtrak is??! Dude, you are getting dumber and dumber with each passing day.

Broadband is a consumer good. Our water systems are just fine. Amtrak is a boondoggle.

Broadband is the modern day highway system just as vital as the roads and mail system. If you don’t think it contributes to the Infrastructure of our country then you are brain dead. Perhaps you’ve been drinking too much water from Flint.

It's a consumer good. End of story.

Haha, it is much more than a consumer good as I explained: I guess it’s over your head.

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.

Ten billionaires reap $400bn boost to wealth during pandemic

Covid-19 pushed many into poverty but brought huge benefits for some of the wealthiest, renewing calls for fairer taxes

www.theguardian.com

I think the wealthy are doing alright..

Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?

Then why are you for it?

Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

You don’t think water systems and broadband are infrastructure?!?! And you don’t know what Amtrak is??! Dude, you are getting dumber and dumber with each passing day.

Broadband is a consumer good. Our water systems are just fine. Amtrak is a boondoggle.

Broadband is the modern day highway system just as vital as the roads and mail system. If you don’t think it contributes to the Infrastructure of our country then you are brain dead. Perhaps you’ve been drinking too much water from Flint.

It's a consumer good. End of story.

Haha, it is much more than a consumer good as I explained: I guess it’s over your head.

No it isn't. It's a consumer good, plain and simple. Read a book on economics.

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.

Ten billionaires reap $400bn boost to wealth during pandemic

Covid-19 pushed many into poverty but brought huge benefits for some of the wealthiest, renewing calls for fairer taxes

www.theguardian.com

I think the wealthy are doing alright..

Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?

Then why are you for it?

Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?

I thought libs were supposed to be against any government spending that benefits the rich.

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

Sure, $174B in electric vehicle charging stations. $115B for fixing roads and bridges. $80B for transit system. $80B for Amtrak repairs. $25B for airport upgrades. $17B for ports and waterways.

$213B to upgrade and repair homes and commercial buildings. 100B for broadband. $100B for public schools. $111B for water systems. $100B for the electric grid.

There’s plenty more but I don’t want to embarrass you too bad. 5%?!?! Ha

The $174 billion isn't for charging stations. It's for subsidies to buy EVs.

Amtrak should be flushed down the toilet. It's a money losing boondoggle.

Housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good. Why should the government spend money on commercial buildings? That's not infrastructure, and such spending would be a magnet for corruption.

By "the electric grid," they mean create the smart grid to make their impossible dreams of renewable energy sound feasible.

If government wants to provide deadbeats with internet, then let them give people who can't afford it a Starlink account. I'm sure it will be less than 10% of the cost.

Every state already has a budget for schooling, and the voters have approved countless bond issues that were supposed to provide for new buildings, including depreciation. Where did all the money go?

Providing "water systems" is the domain of state and local government. Aside from Flynt Michagan, the country has plenty of clean water.

You didn't embarass me. Like the Biden administration, you counted welfare and boondoggles as infrastructure.

We can debate the validity of each item but the fact remains there is far more than 5% going towards infrastructure. Just because you don’t think it’s necessary doesn’t mean it’s not infrastructure

Public housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good.

Wifi is also a consumer good. Anyone can get wifi if they are willing to pay for it. We don't need government to supply it. Dims are always complaining about monopolies, but then they are always creating them.

Amtrak is infrastructure, but it's a money losing boondoggle, and it will always be one.

How is broadband different than roads and the post office?

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

Sure, $174B in electric vehicle charging stations. $115B for fixing roads and bridges. $80B for transit system. $80B for Amtrak repairs. $25B for airport upgrades. $17B for ports and waterways.

$213B to upgrade and repair homes and commercial buildings. 100B for broadband. $100B for public schools. $111B for water systems. $100B for the electric grid.

There’s plenty more but I don’t want to embarrass you too bad. 5%?!?! Ha

The $174 billion isn't for charging stations. It's for subsidies to buy EVs.

Amtrak should be flushed down the toilet. It's a money losing boondoggle.

Housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good. Why should the government spend money on commercial buildings? That's not infrastructure, and such spending would be a magnet for corruption.

By "the electric grid," they mean create the smart grid to make their impossible dreams of renewable energy sound feasible.

If government wants to provide deadbeats with internet, then let them give people who can't afford it a Starlink account. I'm sure it will be less than 10% of the cost.

Every state already has a budget for schooling, and the voters have approved countless bond issues that were supposed to provide for new buildings, including depreciation. Where did all the money go?

Providing "water systems" is the domain of state and local government. Aside from Flynt Michagan, the country has plenty of clean water.

You didn't embarass me. Like the Biden administration, you counted welfare and boondoggles as infrastructure.

We can debate the validity of each item but the fact remains there is far more than 5% going towards infrastructure. Just because you don’t think it’s necessary doesn’t mean it’s not infrastructure

Public housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good.

Wifi is also a consumer good. Anyone can get wifi if they are willing to pay for it. We don't need government to supply it. Dims are always complaining about monopolies, but then they are always creating them.

Amtrak is infrastructure, but it's a money losing boondoggle, and it will always be one.

How is broadband different than roads and the post office?

I already told you: anyone can get it if they are willing to pay for it. However, I don't believe government should be funding the other two items either.

 

[bripat9643]

Houses Are Consumer Durables - LewRockwell

Over time, under a 100% gold standard, a house would gradually depreciate in value. A house, after all, is nothing more than a durable consumer good — it is a capital good if it is a rental property. However, when living under a fiat-currency regime, perceptions can be radically altered. For...

www.lewrockwell.com

 

[JimH52]

Like Trump or not he was totally transparent and would take any question anytime.

Trump meant what he said and said what he meant.

Trump did not mean what he said and said what came into his head at the moment.

Sort of like when he suggested injected disinfectants and shooting a light indie your body. Then the WH came out and said he was sarcastic. No....he really is that stupid!