I remember when America was normal.

[TemplarKormac]

I remember being in school and being encouraged to participate in politics. We were encouraged to Express our political thoughts through both free speech and articles of clothing & or signage. Pussy hats of course would have been out of bounds because, well you know... they are vulgar and juvenile. They were trying to teach & encourage APPROPRIATE adult behavior not that stupid juvenile nonsense.
Sadly now such responsible adult activities will get you kicked out of school or beat up.


I remember as a young adult yard signage and bumper stickers were common place. Course now that will get your property vandalized.

I really do feel sorry for today's youth. I can't imagine growing up in this ridiculous political climate where EVERYTHING you do or say is looked at through a political lense. A time when decisions you make as a 12 or 13 year old can come back to haunt you decades later as a mature adult.
You can no longer grow up as a child exploring your own path with only small amounts of guidance. Now you are groomed in identity politics and social justice to the point where differing opinions on any given subject can immediately get you ostracized if you don't adhere to the accepted liberal dogma.

Progressives are destroying two hundred years of REAL progress

You need to stop watching Fox all the time. Look around at what is actually going on in your neighborhood, your community and you are not going to find any of that shit.

No, he is free to disseminate information and news in whatever way suits him. Just like you can.

Just like we have a right to express an opinion we also have the right to choose a method which helps us form that opinion. We are free to think for ourselves.

YOU are not the thought police. We are already seeing what the thought police are doing in Venezuela right now. We see from history what happens when fascism takes over and employs that method of thought control.

 

[TemplarKormac]

At our schools kids get to disagree about politics all they want, but intolerance is not tolerated.

See...

There you go using that word again.

"Intolerance"

Intolerance can be whatever one wants or defines it to be. You can easily deem simple disagreement as intolerance.

So, what if it's a conservative student wearing a MAGA hat at school? Is he expressing his opinion or is he being "intolerant" because he supports the president? What if that student happens to be on a college campus and expresses his views there? What if he gets assaulted for that? Is it right for him to be assaulted for his opinion? Would the assailant be just and tolerant as opposed to the supposed intolerance of the conservative student?

Saying something or someone is intolerant is akin to painting with the broadest brush imaginable. While some opinions and views are distasteful to one person or another, the premise of our country is the ability express them freely.

Yeah, racism is bad, misogyny, bigotry... whatever... are things we naturally don't tolerate. But people have the right to express those kinds of opinions. They also get to reap the consequences of having such opinions also, even though they are well within their rights to express them.

You have no idea how many despots and tyrants used the aegis of tolerance as a means to suppress the collective wills of their people.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Unless you have school age kids or are on the school board, you have no idea what is going on in your local schools.

This is so patently stupid it defies logic.

Why? How can you piss and moan about what kids are being taught unless you are there to see it in action? By reading conservative propaganda SWILL. How else would you know enough to bitch about it?

Curious... what "swill" are you reading? What makes you think that your progressive ways and values make you more intelligent and all knowing than your counterparts? What convinces you that your ways and methods of teaching are superior?

Also, how ignorant can you be? Lots of parents have children in school, and some are very involved in the things the child is apart of. Just because they don't sit on a school board or attend school board meetings on a regular basis does not preclude them from having an opinion on what goes on at their child's school.

Hmm... you know very little about tolerance, disparaging the political beliefs of another person like you do. "Conservative propaganda swill" you said. I assume anything you are intolerant of counts as "swill" doesn't it?

Lastly, your expressed intolerance in the face of what you deem intolerance qualifies you as a hypocrite.

 

[francoHFW]

You need to stop watching Fox all the time.

There's That Knee-Jerk Flash Card Again
Piss Poor Attempt At Shaming

FOX Reports The Stupidity
All Your Outlets Champion
And Has More Diverse Left/Right Opinion Doing It
Than All Your Outlets Put Together

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery.... And Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin Infowars etc etc is a total disgrace hate character assassination and misinformation only for the chumps. Breaking for right wing idiots... Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI and the CIA are absolutely honest, all your phony scandals have been investigated and nothing has been found but total garbage GOP propaganda, dumbass ignoramus... We now have a flat tax system with the rich paying no more percentage-wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth
basically for 35 years now with your giveaway to the rich tax rates and scumbag cuts in services for everyone else. You believe whole numbers of people have just become lazy. You are a brainwashed functional moron.

 

[karpenter]

Curious... what "swill" are you reading? What makes you think that your progressive ways and values make you more intelligent and all knowing than your counterparts? What convinces you that your ways and methods of teaching are superior?

Also, how ignorant can you be? Lots of parents have children in school, and some are very involved in the things the child is apart of. Just because they don't sit on a school board or attend school board meetings on a regular basis does not preclude them from having an opinion on what goes on at their child's school.

Hmm... you know very little about tolerance, disparaging the political beliefs of another person like you do. "Conservative propaganda swill" you said. I assume anything you are intolerant of counts as "swill" doesn't it?

Lastly, your expressed intolerance in the face of what you deem intolerance qualifies you as a hypocrite.

Socialism Appeals To The Emotion
The Most Irrational Part Of Our Minds
That's Why It's So Easily Picked Up

It Helps Them Feel Miserable And Wronged

 

[karpenter]

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery....

And You Tun In Every Nite To Judge For Yourself
Just Like With Your Other References
Liar
Just Parrot More Flash-Cards

Your Outlets Almost Universally
Repeat Verbatim From The Same Script
As Though They Are All The Same One Outlet
The Montages Can Be Found On YouTube

There Is Still More Diversity Left/Right Opinion On FOX
Than All Other Outlets Combined
Where The Rule Is A Panel Of Leftists
Pretending To Discuss 'Both Sides'
Of Whatever Non-Issue, Or "Controversy"
They Chose To Invent For You To Follow
One Big Universal Pravda

Before FOX Came Along
That Was All There Was

 

[Norman]

You need to stop watching Fox all the time.

There's That Knee-Jerk Flash Card Again
Piss Poor Attempt At Shaming

FOX Reports The Stupidity
All Your Outlets Champion
And Has More Diverse Left/Right Opinion Doing It
Than All Your Outlets Put Together

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery.... And Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin Infowars etc etc is a total disgrace hate character assassination and misinformation only for the chumps. Breaking for right wing idiots... Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI and the CIA are absolutely honest, all your phony scandals have been investigated and nothing has been found but total garbage GOP propaganda, dumbass ignoramus... We now have a flat tax system with the rich paying no more percentage-wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth
basically for 35 years now with your giveaway to the rich tax rates and scumbag cuts in services for everyone else. You believe whole numbers of people have just become lazy. You are a brainwashed functional moron.

And what is decent then?

Let me guess... CNN.

 

[Ambivalent1]

And saying the other players don’t get harmed is wrong. They could get physically injured as boys are stronger and they could lose. And while The Progessive Left believes everyone should get a trophy, this is not how the real world works.

I don't believe that everyone should get a trophy in competitive sports. You must be a RW but who believes that kind of bullshit.

Spoken by low self esteem loser.

 

[Ambivalent1]

The Tournaments only have X amount of entrants, every slot a male takes a female loses out on competing.

If the league allows transgendered athletes to play, your point is moot.

Nope, it stands. EVERY male who takes a spot disenfranchises a female. Sorry son.

Disenfranchises? Whoa! Big word.

You poor kid, tell me....where to I send your word a day calendar to?

 

[bendog]

I remember being in school and being encouraged to participate in politics. We were encouraged to Express our political thoughts through both free speech and articles of clothing & or signage. Pussy hats of course would have been out of bounds because, well you know... they are vulgar and juvenile. They were trying to teach & encourage APPROPRIATE adult behavior not that stupid juvenile nonsense.
Sadly now such responsible adult activities will get you kicked out of school or beat up.


I remember as a young adult yard signage and bumper stickers were common place. Course now that will get your property vandalized.

I really do feel sorry for today's youth. I can't imagine growing up in this ridiculous political climate where EVERYTHING you do or say is looked at through a political lense. A time when decisions you make as a 12 or 13 year old can come back to haunt you decades later as a mature adult.
You can no longer grow up as a child exploring your own path with only small amounts of guidance. Now you are groomed in identity politics and social justice to the point where differing opinions on any given subject can immediately get you ostracized if you don't adhere to the accepted liberal dogma.

Progressives are destroying two hundred years of REAL progress

Sure am glad those Covington Catholic Punks were allowed to smirk

 

[Ambivalent1]

I remember being in school and being encouraged to participate in politics. We were encouraged to Express our political thoughts through both free speech and articles of clothing & or signage. Pussy hats of course would have been out of bounds because, well you know... they are vulgar and juvenile. They were trying to teach & encourage APPROPRIATE adult behavior not that stupid juvenile nonsense.
Sadly now such responsible adult activities will get you kicked out of school or beat up.


I remember as a young adult yard signage and bumper stickers were common place. Course now that will get your property vandalized.

I really do feel sorry for today's youth. I can't imagine growing up in this ridiculous political climate where EVERYTHING you do or say is looked at through a political lense. A time when decisions you make as a 12 or 13 year old can come back to haunt you decades later as a mature adult.
You can no longer grow up as a child exploring your own path with only small amounts of guidance. Now you are groomed in identity politics and social justice to the point where differing opinions on any given subject can immediately get you ostracized if you don't adhere to the accepted liberal dogma.

Progressives are destroying two hundred years of REAL progress

Sure am glad those Covington Catholic Punks were allowed to smirk

Chief Little Drum sure was a tough guy confronting the kids.

 

[Pogo]

I remember being in school and being encouraged to participate in politics. We were encouraged to Express our political thoughts through both free speech and articles of clothing & or signage. Pussy hats of course would have been out of bounds because, well you know... they are vulgar and juvenile. They were trying to teach & encourage APPROPRIATE adult behavior not that stupid juvenile nonsense.
Sadly now such responsible adult activities will get you kicked out of school or beat up.


I remember as a young adult yard signage and bumper stickers were common place. Course now that will get your property vandalized.

I really do feel sorry for today's youth. I can't imagine growing up in this ridiculous political climate where EVERYTHING you do or say is looked at through a political lense. A time when decisions you make as a 12 or 13 year old can come back to haunt you decades later as a mature adult.
You can no longer grow up as a child exploring your own path with only small amounts of guidance. Now you are groomed in identity politics and social justice to the point where differing opinions on any given subject can immediately get you ostracized if you don't adhere to the accepted liberal dogma.

Progressives are destroying two hundred years of REAL progress

Sure am glad those Covington Catholic Punks were allowed to smirk

Kid didn't know he was in the No Smirking section a/k/a "earth".

 

[bendog]

I remember being in school and being encouraged to participate in politics. We were encouraged to Express our political thoughts through both free speech and articles of clothing & or signage. Pussy hats of course would have been out of bounds because, well you know... they are vulgar and juvenile. They were trying to teach & encourage APPROPRIATE adult behavior not that stupid juvenile nonsense.
Sadly now such responsible adult activities will get you kicked out of school or beat up.


I remember as a young adult yard signage and bumper stickers were common place. Course now that will get your property vandalized.

I really do feel sorry for today's youth. I can't imagine growing up in this ridiculous political climate where EVERYTHING you do or say is looked at through a political lense. A time when decisions you make as a 12 or 13 year old can come back to haunt you decades later as a mature adult.
You can no longer grow up as a child exploring your own path with only small amounts of guidance. Now you are groomed in identity politics and social justice to the point where differing opinions on any given subject can immediately get you ostracized if you don't adhere to the accepted liberal dogma.

Progressives are destroying two hundred years of REAL progress

Sure am glad those Covington Catholic Punks were allowed to smirk

Chief Little Drum sure was a tough guy confronting the kids.

It's a shame these punks can't participate in politics these days

 

[PoliticalChic]

Unless you have school age kids or are on the school board, you have no idea what is going on in your local schools.

This is so patently stupid it defies logic.

Why? How can you piss and moan about what kids are being taught unless you are there to see it in action? By reading conservative propaganda SWILL. How else would you know enough to bitch about it?

Curious... what "swill" are you reading? What makes you think that your progressive ways and values make you more intelligent and all knowing than your counterparts? What convinces you that your ways and methods of teaching are superior?

Also, how ignorant can you be? Lots of parents have children in school, and some are very involved in the things the child is apart of. Just because they don't sit on a school board or attend school board meetings on a regular basis does not preclude them from having an opinion on what goes on at their child's school.

Hmm... you know very little about tolerance, disparaging the political beliefs of another person like you do. "Conservative propaganda swill" you said. I assume anything you are intolerant of counts as "swill" doesn't it?

Lastly, your expressed intolerance in the face of what you deem intolerance qualifies you as a hypocrite.

"Curious... what "swill" are you reading? "


Point of order!

They don't read.

When you ask that question, all you will get is a deer-in-the-headlights look....and maybe "duuuuuhhhhh..."



"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter

 

[Ambivalent1]

I remember being in school and being encouraged to participate in politics. We were encouraged to Express our political thoughts through both free speech and articles of clothing & or signage. Pussy hats of course would have been out of bounds because, well you know... they are vulgar and juvenile. They were trying to teach & encourage APPROPRIATE adult behavior not that stupid juvenile nonsense.
Sadly now such responsible adult activities will get you kicked out of school or beat up.


I remember as a young adult yard signage and bumper stickers were common place. Course now that will get your property vandalized.

I really do feel sorry for today's youth. I can't imagine growing up in this ridiculous political climate where EVERYTHING you do or say is looked at through a political lense. A time when decisions you make as a 12 or 13 year old can come back to haunt you decades later as a mature adult.
You can no longer grow up as a child exploring your own path with only small amounts of guidance. Now you are groomed in identity politics and social justice to the point where differing opinions on any given subject can immediately get you ostracized if you don't adhere to the accepted liberal dogma.

Progressives are destroying two hundred years of REAL progress

Sure am glad those Covington Catholic Punks were allowed to smirk

Chief Little Drum sure was a tough guy confronting the kids.

It's a shame these punks can't participate in politics these days

Be patient, your folks are working on it.

"
On Wednesday, Pressley introduced an amendment to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 years old in federal elections. The legislation would allow minors to vote for Congress and for President as soon as the 2020 elections.

The amendment ― the freshman congresswoman’s first to be introduced on the House floor ― would be attached to the H.R. 1 legislation expected to be debated in the House of Representatives this week. That bill aims to reform campaign finance and expand voting rights."

Rep. Ayanna Pressley Wants To Lower The Voting Age To 16 | Gary/Chicago Crusader

 

[francoHFW]

You need to stop watching Fox all the time.

There's That Knee-Jerk Flash Card Again
Piss Poor Attempt At Shaming

FOX Reports The Stupidity
All Your Outlets Champion
And Has More Diverse Left/Right Opinion Doing It
Than All Your Outlets Put Together

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery.... And Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin Infowars etc etc is a total disgrace hate character assassination and misinformation only for the chumps. Breaking for right wing idiots... Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI and the CIA are absolutely honest, all your phony scandals have been investigated and nothing has been found but total garbage GOP propaganda, dumbass ignoramus... We now have a flat tax system with the rich paying no more percentage-wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth
basically for 35 years now with your giveaway to the rich tax rates and scumbag cuts in services for everyone else. You believe whole numbers of people have just become lazy. You are a brainwashed functional moron.

And what is decent then?

Let me guess... CNN.

And every respected journalistic Outlet in the world except your Rupert Murdoch Rush Limbaugh garbage machine, super duper. Read something and stop being so damn ignorant.

 

[Ambivalent1]

You need to stop watching Fox all the time.

There's That Knee-Jerk Flash Card Again
Piss Poor Attempt At Shaming

FOX Reports The Stupidity
All Your Outlets Champion
And Has More Diverse Left/Right Opinion Doing It
Than All Your Outlets Put Together

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery.... And Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin Infowars etc etc is a total disgrace hate character assassination and misinformation only for the chumps. Breaking for right wing idiots... Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI and the CIA are absolutely honest, all your phony scandals have been investigated and nothing has been found but total garbage GOP propaganda, dumbass ignoramus... We now have a flat tax system with the rich paying no more percentage-wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth
basically for 35 years now with your giveaway to the rich tax rates and scumbag cuts in services for everyone else. You believe whole numbers of people have just become lazy. You are a brainwashed functional moron.

And what is decent then?

Let me guess... CNN.

And every respected journalistic Outlet in the world except your Rupert Murdoch Rush Limbaugh garbage machine, super duper. Read something and stop being so damn ignorant.

Sure...like HuffPo,kos,Common Dreams, Slate amiright?

 

[francoHFW]

You need to stop watching Fox all the time.

There's That Knee-Jerk Flash Card Again
Piss Poor Attempt At Shaming

FOX Reports The Stupidity
All Your Outlets Champion
And Has More Diverse Left/Right Opinion Doing It
Than All Your Outlets Put Together

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery.... And Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin Infowars etc etc is a total disgrace hate character assassination and misinformation only for the chumps. Breaking for right wing idiots... Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI and the CIA are absolutely honest, all your phony scandals have been investigated and nothing has been found but total garbage GOP propaganda, dumbass ignoramus... We now have a flat tax system with the rich paying no more percentage-wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth
basically for 35 years now with your giveaway to the rich tax rates and scumbag cuts in services for everyone else. You believe whole numbers of people have just become lazy. You are a brainwashed functional moron.

And what is decent then?

Let me guess... CNN.

And every respected journalistic Outlet in the world except your Rupert Murdoch Rush Limbaugh garbage machine, super duper. Read something and stop being so damn ignorant.

Sure...like HuffPo,kos,Common Dreams, Slate amiright?

The BBC France 24 Le Monde the hindustani times anything but Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh assholes, ignoramus. Google Google news and get everything -try reading something instead of this endless Fox CNN MSNBC insane gab fest

 

[francoHFW]

You need to stop watching Fox all the time.

There's That Knee-Jerk Flash Card Again
Piss Poor Attempt At Shaming

FOX Reports The Stupidity
All Your Outlets Champion
And Has More Diverse Left/Right Opinion Doing It
Than All Your Outlets Put Together

Fox primetime is total garbage and full of lies and demagoguery.... And Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin Infowars etc etc is a total disgrace hate character assassination and misinformation only for the chumps. Breaking for right wing idiots... Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI and the CIA are absolutely honest, all your phony scandals have been investigated and nothing has been found but total garbage GOP propaganda, dumbass ignoramus... We now have a flat tax system with the rich paying no more percentage-wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth
basically for 35 years now with your giveaway to the rich tax rates and scumbag cuts in services for everyone else. You believe whole numbers of people have just become lazy. You are a brainwashed functional moron.

And what is decent then?

Let me guess... CNN.

And every respected journalistic Outlet in the world except your Rupert Murdoch Rush Limbaugh garbage machine, super duper. Read something and stop being so damn ignorant.

Sure...like HuffPo,kos,Common Dreams, Slate amiright?

And actually those do deal in actual facts much more than Fox primetime or any of your radio demagogues... The whole GOP propaganda machine is a lying disgrace. Oh, and law enforcement has never found any Hillary Obama holder etc etc scandals you people believe to have any basis in fact at all... Never a retraction ever LOL. You have to be a moron to start with to believe it.

 

[beagle9]

I wrote this over at USA Carry in 2013. Fits the theme of the OP's thread. Under Obama, our outlook was pretty grim

-Geaux

Because I was raised to love God & Country. My grandparents were hard working tobacco farmers for all their lives. They never ventured far from their home in Tennessee. During my youth, I spent my summers there working in the hot August fields and in the top of some bat and spider infested barns. But you know what? It felt like Utopia. The family would gather on Sundays for dinner (lunch down south) then retire to the vast fields for games of baseball until the lighting bugs blinked at sunset. America was a different place then. It was a place were a man was judged by the sweat off his brow and how he provided for his family. As grandma used to say; "I don't care if you dig a ditch for a living, just dig it to the best of your ability". They were true Americans who taught me the value and pride which comes from a hard days work.

I have tried to pass the culture to my son's. And to some extent, it is still a work in progress. It's just hard for them to see the forest through the trees. Some today get more fired up about a new release of the Ipad than it does at the prospects of employment. Sad

What would my grandparents think today of the America that turned it's back on their values? I picture the Indian with a tear in his eye (viewing litter) from the commercial years ago. The difference today is he would be reduced to a mere man on his knees viewing the cesspool society has manifested and nurtured.

The election was a referendum on the American Dream as my generation knew it. The shear fact that a little over half of us (America collectively) voted for the continued weakening of our National Sovernity is hard to stomach.

I can only hope the reason immigrants flock to America is because of the image it used to reflect, not the image of today. But as the subj: reads, I am on the slippery slope called hope and am growing more bitter by the day.

And the worst thing that has happened to it is the Reagan GOP give away to the rich and screw everybody else system of the last 35 years, Super Duper. We have the worst inequality and upward mobility and benefits of any modern country... The dupes don't know that but they know every detail of phony Democratic scandals and believe everybody just got lazy. Pathetic Chumps of the greedy idiot rich.

If the culture hadn't gone bat crap crazy, then the respect would have held over time, but once the culture went stupid it was on. That was the green light for the American people to be justifiably screwed over by those who sought to separate themselves from the crazies amongst the groups.

Can't say I blame them really, I mean who wants their family subjected to what Hollyweird is pumping out today, and all the crazy trends and deplorabalisms going on today ?? It takes money to separate, and this is what has taken place for many years now.

The crazies have figured it out, and that is why they seek government power to reel it all back in. They see it as no other way, and so the attack is on for power and control.

All of this is just bullshit. It is conservatives that have gone batshit crazy over every little thing. The rest of the modern world has adapted to giving rights to minorities. Only in the USA is there this crazed response to EVERY. LITTLE. THING. Most of which has absolutely NO impact on the lives of any of the people who are getting all hysterical over it.

Gay marriage is a good example. It has absolutely no impact on anyone other than gays, and those who want to illegally discriminate against them. But you'd think that gay marriage is the end of the world as you know it given the reaction of the American right. God will punish us!!! Think of the children!!!

I've lived in a country with gay marriage for nearly 20 years now, and it's had no impact on me or my family at all. But I see the positive impact it's had on the gay members of our communities.

One of the law clerks at my last firm was married and his husband had retired early for health reasons. Our clerk was able to add his husband to his supplemental health insurance so they both had full health insurance and supplemental health insurance at family rates, which was critical to their finances as my co-worker's husband needed a walker, and expensive drugs which aren't covered by OHIP until age 65.

In cases where there is no medical power of attorney, hospitals will call upon the spouse to make end of life medical decisions where the patient is no longer able to do so. Prior to gay marriage, gay partners were shunted aside in favour of estranged family members with no idea of the patient's wishes or history.

Gay marriage became necessary when a legal hierarchy was established as to who speaks for you when you can't. If you have designated Powers of Attorney for property, and Powers of Attorney for personal care, to designate who speaks for you when you can't, you have designated your attorneys, but in the case of minor children, it's their parents. In the event you have no P/A's, the law says your spouse is first, your adult children are second, and your parents, if living, are next. The person you live with in a relationship, has no legal standing, even if you've co-habited for 20 years.

Wasn't there something else besides marriage that would have taken care of the issue ?? Can't remember what it was called now, but it seems I remember something they all were talking about in order to keep marriage as a religious tradition and symbol between a man and a woman. What makes you think that everything is about gays when people are dissatisfied with the Demon-crat party ? Abortion is the huge elephant in the room wouldn't you say ??