"I went to an Ivy League school...I got very good marks"

[eddiew37]

Someone compared Trump to Michelle Obama as Ivy League graduates

One only has to listen to Michelle Obama speak, see how she handles herself in public, listen to her vocabulary and speaking style and you can recognize she is an educated person

Trump never demonstrates a working vocabulary....the best, great, very, very good, he is stupid, I'm smart

He is so good at what he does, that you can't even see it.

you are 100% right Correll He is great at pulling the wool over republican eyes never taking blame, passing it on to others and demanding all in his cabinet kiss his dirty butt

Very good. And telling the voters in those traditionally dem states that they were stupid to vote for Trump, is the perfect way to get them to come back to you.


You are OBVIOUSLY so much smarter than Trump.

not a good move ,,, deplorables was a huge mistake

 

[Correll]

So, once again, our President lied

He did not get "very good marks"
People who get very good marks make the Deans List, they graduate at the top of their class, they are remembered by their peers as top students, they go on for advanced degrees

Trump did not

What did Hillary tell you, during the campaign, that you didn't want to hear?

Nothing to do with what I posted

Earlier you called Trump a "Snakeoil salesman" who tells people what they want to hear.


So, what did Hillary tell you that you didn't want to hear?

 

[Correll]

Someone compared Trump to Michelle Obama as Ivy League graduates

One only has to listen to Michelle Obama speak, see how she handles herself in public, listen to her vocabulary and speaking style and you can recognize she is an educated person

Trump never demonstrates a working vocabulary....the best, great, very, very good, he is stupid, I'm smart

He is so good at what he does, that you can't even see it.

Snake oil salesmen are very good at what they do
They size up their audience and tell them what they want to hear

Most can aspire to use that skill to become used car salesmen. Trump used it to gain the presidency

And hence by reminding people that he is an Ivy League graduate, he demonstrates that people like RW, who says shit like this are dishonest partisans who should be granted no credibility.

Like any good Snake Oil Salesman, Trump misrepresents his product

Ivy League in the 60s was not the Ivy League of today. You did not see many bright Asians running around Ivy League schools in the 60s

Ivy League was for the elite. Not elite intelligence but the social elite
Getting in to Ivy League schools meant you had connections. Connections like JFK, George Bush and yes, Donald Trump. Once in, you went for the "Gentleman's C". Just enough to get by

Got a link to support you claim that the Ivy League of the 60s was not academically elite?


Cause this is the first time I have ever heard this claim.

 

[rightwinger]

So, once again, our President lied

He did not get "very good marks"
People who get very good marks make the Deans List, they graduate at the top of their class, they are remembered by their peers as top students, they go on for advanced degrees

Trump did not

What did Hillary tell you, during the campaign, that you didn't want to hear?

Nothing to do with what I posted

Earlier you called Trump a "Snakeoil salesman" who tells people what they want to hear.


So, what did Hillary tell you that you didn't want to hear?

Still has nothing to do with what I posted

 

[xotoxi]

If Obama bragged about his degrees from Columbia and Harvard, the right would complain that he is a liberal elitist.

Crickets when Trump does it.

 

[rightwinger]

Someone compared Trump to Michelle Obama as Ivy League graduates

One only has to listen to Michelle Obama speak, see how she handles herself in public, listen to her vocabulary and speaking style and you can recognize she is an educated person

Trump never demonstrates a working vocabulary....the best, great, very, very good, he is stupid, I'm smart

He is so good at what he does, that you can't even see it.

Snake oil salesmen are very good at what they do
They size up their audience and tell them what they want to hear

Most can aspire to use that skill to become used car salesmen. Trump used it to gain the presidency

And hence by reminding people that he is an Ivy League graduate, he demonstrates that people like RW, who says shit like this are dishonest partisans who should be granted no credibility.

Like any good Snake Oil Salesman, Trump misrepresents his product

Ivy League in the 60s was not the Ivy League of today. You did not see many bright Asians running around Ivy League schools in the 60s

Ivy League was for the elite. Not elite intelligence but the social elite
Getting in to Ivy League schools meant you had connections. Connections like JFK, George Bush and yes, Donald Trump. Once in, you went for the "Gentleman's C". Just enough to get by

Got a link to support you claim that the Ivy League of the 60s was not academically elite?


Cause this is the first time I have ever heard this claim.

How Wealthy Families Manipulate the Admissions Process at Elite Universities

 

[usmbguest5318]

Why Trump last week reiterated that he went to an Ivy League school and did well is beyond comprehension. Who the hell that is a public figure who also is indeed smart and mastered the content taught at whatever school(s) they attended bothers, unbidden and for any reason other than to show a measure of understanding about something besides the actual content taught in that school, to attest to as much is anyone's guess.

Whether one was a good student and did a fine job of learning what was taught will be evident in myriad ways to which one need not attest and that others will attest to on one's behalf. That happens all the time. People have no reluctance about saying things like "so and so is really good at...," "he's really smart," "she's a brilliant mathematician," "she did an excellent job at ...," and so on. Even Trump's biggest detractors and opponents willingly accord that he's very good at some things. If one earns a given accolade, one will receive it, in abundance and from people who matter and people who don't.

As goes Trump's intellectual acuity, it seems Trump is his own biggest source of acknowledgement.

2004 -- "I went to the Wharton School of Finance, I got very good marks." -- Donald Trump

August 2016 -- "I went to an Ivy League school. I’m very highly educated. I know words, I have the best words." -- Donald Trump

​

October 2017 -- "I went to an Ivy League college. I was a nice student. I did very well. I’m a very intelligent person." -- Donald Trump​

The October remarks were part of Trump's response to Jeff Flake's castigation of his character, most particularly his wanton penchant for paltering.

Points of fact:

1. Trump did graduate from U. Penn and the program from which he graduated was (is) offered by the Wharton School.
   
   Qualitative Assessment:
   If I wanted to make something of it, I could raise that he transferred into Wharton (from Fordham, a fine school, to be sure, but hardly a first, second or third choice institution among high-performing WASPy students of Trump's social set "back in the day") rather than being admitted as a freshmen, explaining, as it was explained to me by my folks, why folks having Trump's background didn't (in Trump's day and before) get admitted to Ivy League (or Seven Sister and/or top ten/tier liberal arts) schools as freshmen. And I could detail the vagaries of a Wharton econ degree (again in Trump's day) vs. a Wharton business, especially the graduate school, degree. And I could discuss the reduced rigor of the economics element at Wharton undergrad (all Wharton undergrad degrees are classed as economics degrees and provide, as does any business degree, only an overview of economics as it relates to applying the basics of the discipline to business strategy) in comparison to U. Penn's Arts and Sciences economics program as the reason Trump doesn't truly understand economics.
   
   But I won't because only the rare individual who hails from that part of society will understand, and I have no desire to "make the case" to folks who will try arguing against any of those things, for at the end of the day, for this point, and in this part of the discussion, positively speaking (instead of normatively speaking), which is what a point of fact is all about, those things don't matter. Trump made about having an Ivy League degree. He graduated from U. Penn; that is a fact, and on that point of fact, I'm not going to say otherwise no matter the qualitative elements underlying that fact.
2. Insofar as college is considered "higher education," having a college degree allows one to claim being highly educated, particularly as most people by far don't have one.
   
   Qualitative Assessment:
   Though as a point of fact, I count the statement as true, in the realms in which Trump dwells, damn near everyone has at least a college degree. Many, perhaps most, have one or more graduate degrees. To wit, in the House, over 65% of the members have a graduate degree. Everyone in the SES has a graduate degree as do all the government's experts on "whatever." In Trump's cabinet, the great majority (14 of 20; 70%) have graduate degrees. Even among "high flying" CEOs one observes that ~70% of them have a graduate degree.
   
   
   
   
   
   But what is the importance of a graduate degree in the context of this discussion? It provides irrefutable evidence that one is both smarter than average -- the minimum passing grade in grad school is a B, and at the doctoral level, there are, in grade terms, only two grades, A or F, meaning one did or did not do what was needed, which is contribute to the body of humanity's knowledge, to earn the degree. A graduate degree also indicates clearly that one knows a hell of a lot about a given discipline and much, minimally enough to readily know when something one hears/sees seems not to quite "add up," about everything that directly and indirectly relates to that discipline.
   
   So, in comparison to the average American, yes, Trump is highly educated, yes, he is. In comparison to others at the highest levels of public service and business, he is not. And if one is educationally an average American, does one really want a POTUS who is not smarter and better educated than oneself? I submit that one needs to be, regardless of the education one has, not as smart as the average American to answer "yes" to that question. After all, who that is average (or below it) needs a leader who is not smarter and more learned than themselves?
3. Earning "very good marks," though it's clearly an unspecific, subjective term, it's something that universally results in one's academic performance, at least at the baccalaureate level, receiving some sort of recognition by the school one attends.
   
   Qualitative Analysis:
   There is no evidence to support Trump's assertion that he earned "very good marks." Trump did not appear on the Dean's list. (Wharton/U. Penn Dean's List requirements)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Trump did not receive academic honors upon graduating.
   
   
   
   
   
   That he got "very good marks" is thus flatly false. He passed his courses and graduated. That's it. It's something, but it is not earning "very good marks."

Summation:

Does anyone give a wet rat's ass whether Trump went to an Ivy League school? Or whether he graduated with honors? No! People might have a passing curiosity about those things, but care, they just don't. I don't either.

The only reason anyone is even talking about it is because Trump made a point of noting it, and doing so as a means of rebutting recriminations made about him, and upon looking into the details of the matter, it's found that he graduated with no materially better marks than did the great majority of his classmates.

Quite simply, and most importantly for why Trump even mentioned it, his claims don't refute the assertions made about his not being particularly smart. In the '60s and before, one's having graduated from an Ivy League school was more an indication of one one's good character, values and social status than it was of one's intellect.

Why? Because posh WASPs, then as now, knew damn well that very bright people attended and graduated from all sorts of schools, and Ivy League schools were hardly the only places at which one could receive a first rate education and, in turn, perform highly or be a mediocre student. The reasons it used to said that "the hardest thing about Harvard is getting in" had everything to do with who one was and things one did before matriculating at Harvard. Once admitted, however, one had to "work hard," that is be a total "f*ck-up," not to graduate. Knowing that is too part of why most folks who went to an Ivy don't themselves mention it in the same contextual manner that Trump did. Nevermind that nobody with any sense wants, by dint of their own braggadocio, to entreat others to root around in the "ancient history" of their late teens and early young adulthood, academic or otherwise.​

There’s speculation that Trump currently suffers from early stage Alzheimer’s. What makes the theory compelling, is that his behavior and sheer stupidity is in line with many of the symptoms of the disease. Also, if you watch clips of Trump from just a couple of decades ago, you will see that his speech was significantly more sophisticated. I mean it was nothing to be impressed by, but it is jarring to see the difference.

If it’s true he has the disease, it would explain a lot about his younger self. It does take intelligence to get an undergrad degree. There’s no getting around that fact. I do, however, think he is lying when he says he got high marks. There is no way that’s possible lol.

It does take intelligence to get an undergrad degree. There’s no getting around that fact.

True.

I do, however, think he is lying when he says he got high marks.

As well you should; the documentary evidence in the OP incontrovertibly shows he did not.

 

[rightwinger]

Why Trump last week reiterated that he went to an Ivy League school and did well is beyond comprehension. Who the hell that is a public figure who also is indeed smart and mastered the content taught at whatever school(s) they attended bothers, unbidden and for any reason other than to show a measure of understanding about something besides the actual content taught in that school, to attest to as much is anyone's guess.

Whether one was a good student and did a fine job of learning what was taught will be evident in myriad ways to which one need not attest and that others will attest to on one's behalf. That happens all the time. People have no reluctance about saying things like "so and so is really good at...," "he's really smart," "she's a brilliant mathematician," "she did an excellent job at ...," and so on. Even Trump's biggest detractors and opponents willingly accord that he's very good at some things. If one earns a given accolade, one will receive it, in abundance and from people who matter and people who don't.

As goes Trump's intellectual acuity, it seems Trump is his own biggest source of acknowledgement.

2004 -- "I went to the Wharton School of Finance, I got very good marks." -- Donald Trump

August 2016 -- "I went to an Ivy League school. I’m very highly educated. I know words, I have the best words." -- Donald Trump

​

October 2017 -- "I went to an Ivy League college. I was a nice student. I did very well. I’m a very intelligent person." -- Donald Trump​

The October remarks were part of Trump's response to Jeff Flake's castigation of his character, most particularly his wanton penchant for paltering.

Points of fact:

1. Trump did graduate from U. Penn and the program from which he graduated was (is) offered by the Wharton School.
   
   Qualitative Assessment:
   If I wanted to make something of it, I could raise that he transferred into Wharton (from Fordham, a fine school, to be sure, but hardly a first, second or third choice institution among high-performing WASPy students of Trump's social set "back in the day") rather than being admitted as a freshmen, explaining, as it was explained to me by my folks, why folks having Trump's background didn't (in Trump's day and before) get admitted to Ivy League (or Seven Sister and/or top ten/tier liberal arts) schools as freshmen. And I could detail the vagaries of a Wharton econ degree (again in Trump's day) vs. a Wharton business, especially the graduate school, degree. And I could discuss the reduced rigor of the economics element at Wharton undergrad (all Wharton undergrad degrees are classed as economics degrees and provide, as does any business degree, only an overview of economics as it relates to applying the basics of the discipline to business strategy) in comparison to U. Penn's Arts and Sciences economics program as the reason Trump doesn't truly understand economics.
   
   But I won't because only the rare individual who hails from that part of society will understand, and I have no desire to "make the case" to folks who will try arguing against any of those things, for at the end of the day, for this point, and in this part of the discussion, positively speaking (instead of normatively speaking), which is what a point of fact is all about, those things don't matter. Trump made about having an Ivy League degree. He graduated from U. Penn; that is a fact, and on that point of fact, I'm not going to say otherwise no matter the qualitative elements underlying that fact.
2. Insofar as college is considered "higher education," having a college degree allows one to claim being highly educated, particularly as most people by far don't have one.
   
   Qualitative Assessment:
   Though as a point of fact, I count the statement as true, in the realms in which Trump dwells, damn near everyone has at least a college degree. Many, perhaps most, have one or more graduate degrees. To wit, in the House, over 65% of the members have a graduate degree. Everyone in the SES has a graduate degree as do all the government's experts on "whatever." In Trump's cabinet, the great majority (14 of 20; 70%) have graduate degrees. Even among "high flying" CEOs one observes that ~70% of them have a graduate degree.
   
   
   
   
   
   But what is the importance of a graduate degree in the context of this discussion? It provides irrefutable evidence that one is both smarter than average -- the minimum passing grade in grad school is a B, and at the doctoral level, there are, in grade terms, only two grades, A or F, meaning one did or did not do what was needed, which is contribute to the body of humanity's knowledge, to earn the degree. A graduate degree also indicates clearly that one knows a hell of a lot about a given discipline and much, minimally enough to readily know when something one hears/sees seems not to quite "add up," about everything that directly and indirectly relates to that discipline.
   
   So, in comparison to the average American, yes, Trump is highly educated, yes, he is. In comparison to others at the highest levels of public service and business, he is not. And if one is educationally an average American, does one really want a POTUS who is not smarter and better educated than oneself? I submit that one needs to be, regardless of the education one has, not as smart as the average American to answer "yes" to that question. After all, who that is average (or below it) needs a leader who is not smarter and more learned than themselves?
3. Earning "very good marks," though it's clearly an unspecific, subjective term, it's something that universally results in one's academic performance, at least at the baccalaureate level, receiving some sort of recognition by the school one attends.
   
   Qualitative Analysis:
   There is no evidence to support Trump's assertion that he earned "very good marks." Trump did not appear on the Dean's list. (Wharton/U. Penn Dean's List requirements)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Trump did not receive academic honors upon graduating.
   
   
   
   
   
   That he got "very good marks" is thus flatly false. He passed his courses and graduated. That's it. It's something, but it is not earning "very good marks."

Summation:

Does anyone give a wet rat's ass whether Trump went to an Ivy League school? Or whether he graduated with honors? No! People might have a passing curiosity about those things, but care, they just don't. I don't either.

The only reason anyone is even talking about it is because Trump made a point of noting it, and doing so as a means of rebutting recriminations made about him, and upon looking into the details of the matter, it's found that he graduated with no materially better marks than did the great majority of his classmates.

Quite simply, and most importantly for why Trump even mentioned it, his claims don't refute the assertions made about his not being particularly smart. In the '60s and before, one's having graduated from an Ivy League school was more an indication of one one's good character, values and social status than it was of one's intellect.

Why? Because posh WASPs, then as now, knew damn well that very bright people attended and graduated from all sorts of schools, and Ivy League schools were hardly the only places at which one could receive a first rate education and, in turn, perform highly or be a mediocre student. The reasons it used to said that "the hardest thing about Harvard is getting in" had everything to do with who one was and things one did before matriculating at Harvard. Once admitted, however, one had to "work hard," that is be a total "f*ck-up," not to graduate. Knowing that is too part of why most folks who went to an Ivy don't themselves mention it in the same contextual manner that Trump did. Nevermind that nobody with any sense wants, by dint of their own braggadocio, to entreat others to root around in the "ancient history" of their late teens and early young adulthood, academic or otherwise.​

There’s speculation that Trump currently suffers from early stage Alzheimer’s. What makes the theory compelling, is that his behavior and sheer stupidity is in line with many of the symptoms of the disease. Also, if you watch clips of Trump from just a couple of decades ago, you will see that his speech was significantly more sophisticated. I mean it was nothing to be impressed by, but it is jarring to see the difference.

If it’s true he has the disease, it would explain a lot about his younger self. It does take intelligence to get an undergrad degree. There’s no getting around that fact. I do, however, think he is lying when he says he got high marks. There is no way that’s possible lol.

It does take intelligence to get an undergrad degree. There’s no getting around that fact.

True.

I do, however, think he is lying when he says he got high marks.

As well you should; the documentary evidence in the OP incontrovertibly shows he did not.

Even though Trump brags about, but will not release his grades......All publically available information shows he did not receive "very good marks"

Another lie from our President

 

[OldLady]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

 

[xotoxi]

I went to an Ivy League School and I got very, very good marks, making the Dean's list every semester.

But that fact doesn't make my shit stink any less than someone who struggled through Community college.

Nor does it make me a good candidate for President.

 

[OldLady]

Why Trump last week reiterated that he went to an Ivy League school and did well is beyond comprehension. Who the hell that is a public figure who also is indeed smart and mastered the content taught at whatever school(s) they attended bothers, unbidden and for any reason other than to show a measure of understanding about something besides the actual content taught in that school, to attest to as much is anyone's guess.

Whether one was a good student and did a fine job of learning what was taught will be evident in myriad ways to which one need not attest and that others will attest to on one's behalf. That happens all the time. People have no reluctance about saying things like "so and so is really good at...," "he's really smart," "she's a brilliant mathematician," "she did an excellent job at ...," and so on. Even Trump's biggest detractors and opponents willingly accord that he's very good at some things. If one earns a given accolade, one will receive it, in abundance and from people who matter and people who don't.
...

Umm, no they don't. This site is full of people who moronically claim that Trump is stupid, and will hysterically attack you and your intelligence is you point out the obvious truth that he is brilliant.


Thus, we have in your opening paragraphs, the reason for him to say it, because only normal, there are plenty of dishonest people out there pushing the lie that he is stupid.


And Trump, unlike so many other republicans, is pushing back against the vile liars.


Good for him.

I watched his interview with Lou Dobbs (yes, I have intestinal fortitude) and Trump genuinely believes in and understands his economic philosophy. Getting it down to where the rubber hits the road is where he's a little shaky. The rest of what he makes pronouncements about are just stuff he has to say. I don't think he's even that big on the immigration issues. That was a dog whistle for the pied piper to use.

 

[OldLady]

If Obama bragged about his degrees from Columbia and Harvard, the right would complain that he is a liberal elitist.

Crickets when Trump does it.

Obama didn't have to brag. All you had to do was listen to him for five minutes.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

When I went to college....The biggest cheats were Business majors

They literally made a business out of it

 

[Moonglow]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

When I went to college....The biggest cheats were Business majors

They literally made a business out of it

I found a cute girl good at English and had he write my lit papers...

 

[OldLady]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

When I went to college....The biggest cheats were Business majors

They literally made a business out of it

Yeah, who wants to read Pride and Prejudice?
Their loss.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

When I went to college....The biggest cheats were Business majors

They literally made a business out of it

Yeah, who wants to read Pride and Prejudice?
Their loss.

It's easier to swallow with the theater version..

 

[usmbguest5318]

He is so good at what he does, that you can't even see it.

Snake oil salesmen are very good at what they do
They size up their audience and tell them what they want to hear

Most can aspire to use that skill to become used car salesmen. Trump used it to gain the presidency

And hence by reminding people that he is an Ivy League graduate, he demonstrates that people like RW, who says shit like this are dishonest partisans who should be granted no credibility.

Like any good Snake Oil Salesman, Trump misrepresents his product

Ivy League in the 60s was not the Ivy League of today. You did not see many bright Asians running around Ivy League schools in the 60s

Ivy League was for the elite. Not elite intelligence but the social elite
Getting in to Ivy League schools meant you had connections. Connections like JFK, George Bush and yes, Donald Trump. Once in, you went for the "Gentleman's C". Just enough to get by

Got a link to support you claim that the Ivy League of the 60s was not academically elite?


Cause this is the first time I have ever heard this claim.

How Wealthy Families Manipulate the Admissions Process at Elite Universities

The tactics and practices noted in the article are undeniable; however, it's not always as simple or nefarious sounding as the author makes it seem. A good share of legacy kids, for example, are very high performers academically and extracurricularly. To wit, take a look at what the average SAT scores are at the schools well to do legacy kids attend, schools like "Grottlesex," Andover, Exeter, Choate, Miss Porters, St. Alban's, Deerfield, Hotchkiss, and so on. Most students at those schools, for instance, earn very high SAT average (not median) scores. So although legacy kids receive preference in admissions, one can't really say they aren't "up to snuff" as goes being qualified to attend the top universities and colleges. It's probably also worth noting that pretty much all schools, not just the top ones, have some sort of legacy preference.


Note:

• Readers who are not familiar with SAT scores and what they mean may want to take a quick glance at the following:
  • New SAT vs Old SAT: Changes You Must Know
  • SAT Percentiles and Score Rankings (Updated for New SAT)

 

[usmbguest5318]

Why Trump last week reiterated that he went to an Ivy League school and did well is beyond comprehension. Who the hell that is a public figure who also is indeed smart and mastered the content taught at whatever school(s) they attended bothers, unbidden and for any reason other than to show a measure of understanding about something besides the actual content taught in that school, to attest to as much is anyone's guess.

Whether one was a good student and did a fine job of learning what was taught will be evident in myriad ways to which one need not attest and that others will attest to on one's behalf. That happens all the time. People have no reluctance about saying things like "so and so is really good at...," "he's really smart," "she's a brilliant mathematician," "she did an excellent job at ...," and so on. Even Trump's biggest detractors and opponents willingly accord that he's very good at some things. If one earns a given accolade, one will receive it, in abundance and from people who matter and people who don't.
...

Umm, no they don't. This site is full of people who moronically claim that Trump is stupid, and will hysterically attack you and your intelligence is you point out the obvious truth that he is brilliant.

Thus, we have in your opening paragraphs, the reason for him to say it, because only normal, there are plenty of dishonest people out there pushing the lie that he is stupid.

And Trump, unlike so many other republicans, is pushing back against the vile liars.

Good for him.

I watched his interview with Lou Dobbs (yes, I have intestinal fortitude) and Trump genuinely believes in and understands his economic philosophy. Getting it down to where the rubber hits the road is where he's a little shaky. The rest of what he makes pronouncements about are just stuff he has to say. I don't think he's even that big on the immigration issues. That was a dog whistle for the pied piper to use.

Is that interview on the Internet? I haven't seen it.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

When I went to college....The biggest cheats were Business majors

They literally made a business out of it

I found a cute girl good at English and had he write my lit papers...

Well, I can see why you avail yourself of that opportunity. LOL

 

[Moonglow]

Trump got into Wharton through a back door admission and paid someone to take his exams and write his papers

When I was in college, it only cost a couple hundred bucks to buy a term paper. Sure he could afford it and sure he did.

When I went to college....The biggest cheats were Business majors

They literally made a business out of it

I found a cute girl good at English and had he write my lit papers...

Well, I can see why you avail yourself of that opportunity. LOL

Dyslexic fingers...