Idiot Howard Dean: 'Hate Speech Is Not Protected By The First Amendment' (I Beg To Differ!)

[SeaGal]

SeaGal, please answer the question: is Hate Speech an American value?

You mean hate speech like this?...Fascism is mostly a right wing phenomenon: jingoistic, nationalistic, racialistic, xeonophobic, culturally immature, anti-democracy, anti-educational, anti-intellectualism. Alt Right Neo-Fascism: hand in hand government and business cooperation, anti-worker, uber nationalistic, xenophobic, racialistic, nativistic and anti democratic institutions and electoral procedures.

It's culturally immature and anti-intellectual, with a measure of bigotry thrown in, and it might 'logically invite retaliation and physical retribution' somewhere ...but some believe that it is representative of American values...apparently.

And I'll not keep you squirming any longer - you don't have to answer my questions regarding the consequences for hate speech being unequally applied, or based on skin color, or justification for violence, or merely a matter of perception - your silence speaks loud and clear.

I am intrigued though, why McDonald's?

 

[NYcarbineer]

And gipper continues violating the zone rules because he cannot answer the OP honestly. gipper loves to snitch, particularly when he is caught out and stomped on.

The truth and fact of the matter is that not all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. Examples and links of such examples are given above.

gipper runs with notorious racialists, nativists, xenophobes, etc., who apparently believe any speech with which they disagrees is "bad" speech and should be penalized. It's just how he and others think.

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

Pretty much whatever you aint.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

And gipper continues violating the zone rules because he cannot answer the OP honestly. gipper loves to snitch, particularly when he is caught out and stomped on.

The truth and fact of the matter is that not all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. Examples and links of such examples are given above.

gipper runs with notorious racialists, nativists, xenophobes, etc., who apparently believe any speech with which they disagrees is "bad" speech and should be penalized. It's just how he and others think.

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

By the Constitution and the amendments. How do you define them? Be specific.

My definition of American values is following the Constitution, being patriotic, practicing Nationalism in order to be exceptional in the land of opportunity. Another great American value is following the Bible and engaging in traditional marriage between a man and a woman and another one is being a moral Christian conservative. All that represents true American values. The founders would agree.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And gipper continues violating the zone rules because he cannot answer the OP honestly. gipper loves to snitch, particularly when he is caught out and stomped on.

The truth and fact of the matter is that not all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. Examples and links of such examples are given above.

gipper runs with notorious racialists, nativists, xenophobes, etc., who apparently believe any speech with which they disagrees is "bad" speech and should be penalized. It's just how he and others think.

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

I have and you have not. I support the Constitution while you abhor it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And gipper continues violating the zone rules because he cannot answer the OP honestly. gipper loves to snitch, particularly when he is caught out and stomped on.

The truth and fact of the matter is that not all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. Examples and links of such examples are given above.

gipper runs with notorious racialists, nativists, xenophobes, etc., who apparently believe any speech with which they disagrees is "bad" speech and should be penalized. It's just how he and others think.

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

By the Constitution and the amendments. How do you define them? Be specific.

My definition of American values is following the Constitution, being patriotic, practicing Nationalism in order to be exceptional in the land of opportunity. Another great American value is following the Bible and engaging in traditional marriage between a man and a woman and another one is being a moral Christian conservative. All that represents true American values. The founders would agree.

Uber white nationalism is the antithesis of American values.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

And gipper continues violating the zone rules because he cannot answer the OP honestly. gipper loves to snitch, particularly when he is caught out and stomped on.

The truth and fact of the matter is that not all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. Examples and links of such examples are given above.

gipper runs with notorious racialists, nativists, xenophobes, etc., who apparently believe any speech with which they disagrees is "bad" speech and should be penalized. It's just how he and others think.

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

By the Constitution and the amendments. How do you define them? Be specific.

My definition of American values is following the Constitution, being patriotic, practicing Nationalism in order to be exceptional in the land of opportunity. Another great American value is following the Bible and engaging in traditional marriage between a man and a woman and another one is being a moral Christian conservative. All that represents true American values. The founders would agree.

Uber white nationalism is the antithesis of American values.

Do you think the founders would agree?

 

[Seawytch]

Speech that incites violence is not protected by the first amendment. Perhaps that is what he is referring to?

Let's see if I've got this right. If a person voices an opinion different from that of the fascist leftist brownshirts, the fact that they react violently to it justifies squashing the rights of the speaker to voice an opinion because they have somehow incited such?

Damn. There is stupid and there is REALLY stupid.

That's right up there with blaming women for being raped.

Actually I simply stated a fact. Inciting violence is against the law, therefore in that instance, free speech is not protected.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And gipper continues violating the zone rules because he cannot answer the OP honestly. gipper loves to snitch, particularly when he is caught out and stomped on.

The truth and fact of the matter is that not all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. Examples and links of such examples are given above.

gipper runs with notorious racialists, nativists, xenophobes, etc., who apparently believe any speech with which they disagrees is "bad" speech and should be penalized. It's just how he and others think.

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

By the Constitution and the amendments. How do you define them? Be specific.

My definition of American values is following the Constitution, being patriotic, practicing Nationalism in order to be exceptional in the land of opportunity. Another great American value is following the Bible and engaging in traditional marriage between a man and a woman and another one is being a moral Christian conservative. All that represents true American values. The founders would agree.

Uber white nationalism is the antithesis of American values.

Do you think the founders would agree?

Immaterial today what the Founders would think, don't you agree? This is 2017, not 1787.

 

[Mac1958]

These people just don't want to give up the sadistic ideological stranglehold they have on our young people.

They'll come up with excuse after excuse for denying the opportunity for opposing voices to speak on campus.

Shutting down opposing voices is unAmerican, but remember, these are people who aren't that fond of the country to begin with.
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[JakeStarkey]

These people just don't want to give up the sadistic ideological stranglehold they have on our young people.

They'll come up with excuse after excuse for denying the opportunity for opposing voices to speak on campus.

Shutting down opposing voices is unAmerican, but remember, these are people who aren't that fond of the country to begin with.
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"These people" of whom regressive Mac1958 is one are those found on both sides that hate American values.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

One more time!

In your mind, how do you define American values? Be specific.

By the Constitution and the amendments. How do you define them? Be specific.

My definition of American values is following the Constitution, being patriotic, practicing Nationalism in order to be exceptional in the land of opportunity. Another great American value is following the Bible and engaging in traditional marriage between a man and a woman and another one is being a moral Christian conservative. All that represents true American values. The founders would agree.

Uber white nationalism is the antithesis of American values.

Do you think the founders would agree?

Immaterial today what the Founders would think, don't you agree? This is 2017, not 1787.

No, I don't agree. A question:

What do you think the framers founding principles are?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

That's right! Howard Dean is the epitome of an idiot. So called 'Hate Speech' (whatever that is) is indeed protected by the First Amendment. I can't say how many times in my life I called a negro a 'nigg*r' to his/her face and never was arrested for cotton picking hate speech.

As for Howard Dean....yeeeeaaaahhhhhhh
Howard Dean's Scream

www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/idiot-howard-dean-gets-destroyed-claiming-hate-speech-not-protected-first-amendment/

You're wrong as usual.

Institutions whether they be private or public are under no obligation to provide the extremely high level of security Necessasary to guarantee coulters safety while she serves up her usual grind, which to some is in fact highly provocative. So for that reason alone they can tell her to piss up a rope.

That you bring up an 'extremely high level of security' would be necessary is the problem. How the hell can you side with that? Institutions being given a pass because their students might act like uncivilized cretins to a speaker sharing an alternative viewpoint is totally unacceptable, IMHO.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And just who tells us what "hate speech" is?

Of course, the PC Zealots, the group in charge of ALSO telling us what "racism" and "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" is dead, along with E Pluribus Unum.
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Are you a veteran?

Well, that seems irrelevant.

 

[Mac1958]

And just who tells us what "hate speech" is?

Of course, the PC Zealots, the group in charge of ALSO telling us what "racism" and "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" is dead, along with E Pluribus Unum.
.

Are you a veteran?

Well, that seems irrelevant.

He's playing a game.

See my response that post.

They're liars and cowards.
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[JakeStarkey]

By the Constitution and the amendments. How do you define them? Be specific.

My definition of American values is following the Constitution, being patriotic, practicing Nationalism in order to be exceptional in the land of opportunity. Another great American value is following the Bible and engaging in traditional marriage between a man and a woman and another one is being a moral Christian conservative. All that represents true American values. The founders would agree.

Uber white nationalism is the antithesis of American values.

Do you think the founders would agree?

Immaterial today what the Founders would think, don't you agree? This is 2017, not 1787.

No, I don't agree. A question:

What do you think the framers founding principles are?

What they though then is not applicable today. It is what we see in the Constitution today that counts. That's why you people don't get to lynch, or torture, or beat people you don't like because of their race, their color, their religion. Tootle along. This is Every American's Country now, and that will never change back.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And just who tells us what "hate speech" is?

Of course, the PC Zealots, the group in charge of ALSO telling us what "racism" and "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" is dead, along with E Pluribus Unum.
.

Are you a veteran?

Well, that seems irrelevant.

He's playing a game.

See my response that post.

They're liars and cowards.
.

All regressives like you, Mac1958, on the far right generally have trouble being objective and fair. Terms like racism and homophobia and Islamophobia have precise meanings, and you pretend they don't mean what they do. That is why you are a regressive on the alt right.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Speech that incites violence is not protected by the first amendment. Perhaps that is what he is referring to?

Why is the person exercising their free speech responsible for those breaking the law?

If I stand on a street corner and I talk about how much I hate Thai food, and person from Thailand punches me, who is at fault?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And just who tells us what "hate speech" is?

Of course, the PC Zealots, the group in charge of ALSO telling us what "racism" and "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" is dead, along with E Pluribus Unum.
.

Are you a veteran?

Well, that seems irrelevant.

He's playing a game.

See my response that post.

They're liars and cowards.
.

All regressives like you, Mac1958, on the far right generally have trouble being objective and fair. Terms like racism and homophobia and Islamophobia have precise meanings, and you pretend they don't mean what they do. That is why you are a regressive on the alt right.

But I'm not any of those things. You just don't seem to know what the fuck you're talking about. That's on you, not me.

 

[bendog]

That's right! Howard Dean is the epitome of an idiot. So called 'Hate Speech' (whatever that is) is indeed protected by the First Amendment. I can't say how many times in my life I called a negro a 'nigg*r' to his/her face and never was arrested for cotton picking hate speech.

As for Howard Dean....yeeeeaaaahhhhhhh
Howard Dean's Scream

www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/idiot-howard-dean-gets-destroyed-claiming-hate-speech-not-protected-first-amendment/

You wouldn't be able to walk if you made a habit of calling black males a 'n9gger' to their faces steve. That was below you usual excellent level of parody.

 

[Mac1958]

And just who tells us what "hate speech" is?

Of course, the PC Zealots, the group in charge of ALSO telling us what "racism" and "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" is dead, along with E Pluribus Unum.
.

Are you a veteran?

Well, that seems irrelevant.

He's playing a game.

See my response that post.

They're liars and cowards.
.

All regressives like you, Mac1958, on the far right generally have trouble being objective and fair. Terms like racism and homophobia and Islamophobia have precise meanings, and you pretend they don't mean what they do. That is why you are a regressive on the alt right.

But I'm not any of those things. You just don't seem to know what the fuck you're talking about. That's on you, not me.

I shoved those lies straight up his ass on this thread: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum, particularly post 297, yet he keeps humping my leg with them.

That's why I think there's something wrong there. He's a troll. Enabling him is pointless.
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