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If Fox News and MSNBC never existed, how would politics change?

The News is actually judged to be the least biased of the various networks.

You're pretty good at talking out of your ass. You should send your resume to Fox News.

The Center for Media and Public Affairs study showed:

Fox News Channel’s coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were. On FOX, evaluations of all Democratic candidates combined were split almost evenly – 51% positive vs. 49% negative, as were all evaluations of GOP candidates – 49% positive vs. 51% negative, producing a perfectly balanced 50-50 split for all candidates of both parties.

On the three broadcast networks, opinion on Democratic candidates split 47% positive vs. 53% negative, while evaluations of Republicans were more negative – 40% positive vs. 60% negative. For both parties combined, network evaluations were almost 3 to 2 negative in tone, i.e. 41% positive vs.59% negative.
Another study:

So how could Fox have both the most balanced and the most anti-Obama coverage? Simple. It’s because the other networks were all so pro-Obama. CMPA analyzed every soundbite by reporters and nonpartisan sources (excluding representative of the political parties) that evaluated the candidates and their policies. On the three broadcast networks combined, evaluations of Obama were 68% positive and 32% negative, compared to the only 36% positive and 64% negative evaluations of his GOP opponent John McCain.

In fact, Obama received the most favorable coverage CMPA has ever recorded for any presidential candidate since we began tracking election news coverage in 1988. The totals were very similar–within a few percentage points–at all three networks. (These figures exclude comments on the candidates’ prospects in the campaign horse race, which obviously favored Obama.)

Meanwhile, Fox’s Special Report was dramatically tougher on Obama, with only 36% favorable vs. 64% unfavorable evaluations during the same time period. But McCain didn’t fare much better, garnering only 40% favorable comments vs. 60% negative ones. So the broadcast networks gave good marks to one candidate and bad marks to another, while Fox was tough on both–and most balanced overall.

From Pew:
  • Democrats generally got more coverage than Republicans, (49% of stories vs. 31%.) One reason was that major Democratic candidates began announcing their candidacies a month earlier than key Republicans, but that alone does not fully explain the discrepancy.
  • Overall, Democrats also have received more positive coverage than Republicans (35% of stories vs. 26%), while Republicans received more negative coverage than Democrats (35% vs. 26%). For both parties, a plurality of stories, 39%, were neutral or balanced.
Roughly a quarter (24%) of the stories devoted to Democrats focused on personal topics, compared with only 13% of the coverage of Republican candidates.'

Policy stories, by contrast, made up much more of the coverage of Republicans (20%) than they did for Democrats (12%).

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And there is some evidence the level coverage does have an impact on public awareness. A Pew Research Center survey from September finds that Clinton and Obama are far better recognized than their Republican counterparts. Fully 78% of Americans could name Hillary Clinton as a candidate, and 62% could name Obama. On the GOP side, 45% could name Giuliani as a candidate, while 30% could name Romney, 27% Thompson and 24% John McCain. Exposure in the press, in other words, may be vital to name recognition, which in turn influences polling and fundraising.

The volume of coverage is one thing. But in politics, not all coverage is equal, even if they spell your name right. What was the tone of the coverage each candidate received?

While Hillary Clinton may have gotten the most press, she did not get the most favorable. That distinction, among major candidates, went to Barack Obama.

On the other end of the ledger, Republican John McCain, the once possible GOP front runner, generated by a wide margin the most negative coverage of any serious contender.

How did individual candidates fare?

Tone of Coverage for Top Candidates

Percent of All Stories
PositiveNeutralNegativeNumberof Stories
Democratic Candidates
Hillary Clinton26.935.437.8294
Barack Obama46.737.515.8240
John Edwards31.033.835.271
Republican Candidates
Rudy Giuliani27.835.237.0162
John McCain12.439.747.9121
Mitt Romney34.135.230.788
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Like the media overall, the first 30 minutes NPR’s Morning Edition produced more stories about Democratic candidates than Republicans (41% vs. 24%). What was different was how little negative coverage Democrats received, especially compared with all other media. Stories about a Democratic candidate were more seven times more positive than negative: 41% positive vs. 6% negative. The majority of coverage, 53% of stories, was neutral.

Looking at specific candidates, stories about Barack Obama carried a clearly positive tone two-thirds of the time. Not a single Morning Edition story was negative. Furthermore, 43% of Hillary Clinton’s coverage was positive vs. 14% negative.

Stories about one of the Republican candidates was more evenly split in tone: 30% positive to 20% negative and 50% neutral. Similar to its public broadcasting counterpart, the NewsHour, NPR devoted more attention to lesser-known candidates. Mitt Romney, the candidate running third for the GOP nomination in most national polls, was the most covered Republican figure, tied with Mike Huckabee, a mostly unknown candidate at the time. Often considered the GOP front runner, Rudy Giuliani, only had one story devoted to him and John McCain had none.

NPR was also the one outlet where there was a marked difference between the total amount of airtime vs. total number of stories. While 24% of the campaign stories were about a Republican candidate, just 15% of the total airtime was spent on them. This suggests that stories about the Republican candidates were brief, creating an even greater gap in the total coverage of Republicans and Democrats.
One last point:

Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.

Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter.

The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "News Night With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third.

"Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, CharlieGibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators."

The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found.
I changed my mind, this is my last point, from Brookings Institution:

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Tricked you, now this is my last point, from Public Policy Polling:

35% of Americans say they trust Fox News more than any other TV news outlet, followed by 14% for PBS, 11% for ABC, 10% for CNN, 9% for CBS, 6% each for Comedy Central and MSNBC, and 3% for NBC.




Wow those stats are so skewed. Try again with some real sources please :thup:

I can't wait!
 
Who did I cite?

Public Policy Polling:

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina.[1] PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and Chief Executive Officer.[2]

PPP is described as one of the "most accurate" polling companies[3][4] and also as a "Democratic-leaning"[5] polling company because it polls only for Democratic and progressive campaigns and organizations on a private basis.
Pew, Brookings, UCLA, and the Center for Media and Public Affairs:

The Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA) is a nonpartisan research and educational organization which conducts scientific studies of news and entertainment media. CMPA’s goal is to provide an empirical basis for ongoing debates over media coverage and impact through well-documented, timely, and readable studies.​
 
Wow those stats are so skewed. Try again with some real sources please :thup:

I can't wait!

I see that you're still swinging and striking out on that quest to produce your 2nd substantive comment before year's end.

Keep at it Timmy. Persistence counts.
 
Your attempt at humour has been noticed. You're not funny.

Yes I am.

Furthermore, that wasn't an "attempt" at acerbic wit, that WAS acerbic wit. Now being that you're from Victoria, you're probably a pizza shop employee, a busker, a street juggler, or more than likely some lowly bureaucrat in some miserable agency where the borg are never allowed to laugh or to appreciate great Canadian humor, on account of the central committee has determined that all such frivolous activity is counterrevolutionary.

Right? Right? I know these things. I lived up there for two years, in Vancouver. I was transferred up there by one of those evil Silicon Valley corporationy thingies…about 100 years ago.
 
Who did I cite?

Public Policy Polling:

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina.[1] PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and Chief Executive Officer.[2]

PPP is described as one of the "most accurate" polling companies[3][4] and also as a "Democratic-leaning"[5] polling company because it polls only for Democratic and progressive campaigns and organizations on a private basis.
Pew, Brookings, UCLA, and the Center for Media and Public Affairs:

The Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA) is a nonpartisan research and educational organization which conducts scientific studies of news and entertainment media. CMPA’s goal is to provide an empirical basis for ongoing debates over media coverage and impact through well-documented, timely, and readable studies.​
Public Policy Poling gets more criticism than any other polling platform. Besides asking ridiculous questions like whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture or whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying, their method of polling has many obscurities.
PPP doesn’t follow many of the industry’s best practices, like calling voters' cell phones; the firm only calls landlines. It discards hundreds of respondents in an unusual process known as “random deletion.” And because PPP's interviewers rely on lists of registered voters—rather than random digit dialing—and simply ask non-voters to hang up the phone, the firm can’t use census numbers to weight their sample, as many other pollsters do. This forces PPP to make more, and more subjective, judgments about just who will be voting.

As for the Center For Media and Public Affairs the media watchdog group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) has challenged CMPA's non-partisan claim, based on the argument that much of its funding has come from conservative sources, and that its founder, Dr. S. Robert Lichter, once held a chair in mass communications at the American Enterprise Institute (a right wing think tank) and was a Fox News contributor.
 
Your attempt at humour has been noticed. You're not funny.

Yes I am.

Furthermore, that wasn't an "attempt" at acerbic wit, that WAS acerbic wit. Now being that you're from Victoria, you're probably a pizza shop employee, a busker, a street juggler, or more than likely some lowly bureaucrat in some miserable agency where the borg are never allowed to laugh or to appreciate great Canadian humor, on account of the central committee has determined that all such frivolous activity is counterrevolutionary.

Right? Right? I know these things. I lived up there for two years, in Vancouver. I was transferred up there by one of those evil Silicon Valley corporationy thingies…about 100 years ago.
Sorry but Jim Carrey, John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Phil Hartman, Martin Short, & Mike Myers are funny. You are not. The funniest thing here though is that some believe Fox News to be a reliable source of journalism.
 
Your attempt at humour has been noticed. You're not funny.

Yes I am.

Furthermore, that wasn't an "attempt" at acerbic wit, that WAS acerbic wit. Now being that you're from Victoria, you're probably a pizza shop employee, a busker, a street juggler, or more than likely some lowly bureaucrat in some miserable agency where the borg are never allowed to laugh or to appreciate great Canadian humor, on account of the central committee has determined that all such frivolous activity is counterrevolutionary.

Right? Right? I know these things. I lived up there for two years, in Vancouver. I was transferred up there by one of those evil Silicon Valley corporationy thingies…about 100 years ago.
Sorry but Jim Carrey, John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Phil Hartman, Martin Short, & Mike Myers are funny. You are not. The funniest thing here though is that some believe Fox News to be a reliable source of journalism.

And nearly everyone on this board is at least marginally interesting...except you. You're boring.
 
Your attempt at humour has been noticed. You're not funny.

Yes I am.

Furthermore, that wasn't an "attempt" at acerbic wit, that WAS acerbic wit. Now being that you're from Victoria, you're probably a pizza shop employee, a busker, a street juggler, or more than likely some lowly bureaucrat in some miserable agency where the borg are never allowed to laugh or to appreciate great Canadian humor, on account of the central committee has determined that all such frivolous activity is counterrevolutionary.

Right? Right? I know these things. I lived up there for two years, in Vancouver. I was transferred up there by one of those evil Silicon Valley corporationy thingies…about 100 years ago.
Sorry but Jim Carrey, John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Phil Hartman, Martin Short, & Mike Myers are funny. You are not. The funniest thing here though is that some believe Fox News to be a reliable source of journalism.

And nearly everyone on this board is at least marginally interesting...except you. You're boring.
Yet, you couldn't dispute any other response I gave you in my original post against yours. Thanks for coming out. You're only argument was whether or not you found yourself to be funny.
 
Your attempt at humour has been noticed. You're not funny.

Yes I am.

Furthermore, that wasn't an "attempt" at acerbic wit, that WAS acerbic wit. Now being that you're from Victoria, you're probably a pizza shop employee, a busker, a street juggler, or more than likely some lowly bureaucrat in some miserable agency where the borg are never allowed to laugh or to appreciate great Canadian humor, on account of the central committee has determined that all such frivolous activity is counterrevolutionary.

Right? Right? I know these things. I lived up there for two years, in Vancouver. I was transferred up there by one of those evil Silicon Valley corporationy thingies…about 100 years ago.
Sorry but Jim Carrey, John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Phil Hartman, Martin Short, & Mike Myers are funny. You are not. The funniest thing here though is that some believe Fox News to be a reliable source of journalism.

And nearly everyone on this board is at least marginally interesting...except you. You're boring.
Yet, you couldn't dispute any other response I gave you in my original post against yours. Thanks for coming out. You're only argument was whether or not you found yourself to be funny.

Dispute your responses? You're a nitwit, aping worn out hackneyed clichés. You’re a dumbass. There are no responses to dispute.
 
Who did I cite?

Public Policy Polling:

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina.[1] PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and Chief Executive Officer.[2]

PPP is described as one of the "most accurate" polling companies[3][4] and also as a "Democratic-leaning"[5] polling company because it polls only for Democratic and progressive campaigns and organizations on a private basis.
Pew, Brookings, UCLA, and the Center for Media and Public Affairs:

The Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA) is a nonpartisan research and educational organization which conducts scientific studies of news and entertainment media. CMPA’s goal is to provide an empirical basis for ongoing debates over media coverage and impact through well-documented, timely, and readable studies.​
Public Policy Poling gets more criticism than any other polling platform. Besides asking ridiculous questions like whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture or whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying, their method of polling has many obscurities.
PPP doesn’t follow many of the industry’s best practices, like calling voters' cell phones; the firm only calls landlines. It discards hundreds of respondents in an unusual process known as “random deletion.” And because PPP's interviewers rely on lists of registered voters—rather than random digit dialing—and simply ask non-voters to hang up the phone, the firm can’t use census numbers to weight their sample, as many other pollsters do. This forces PPP to make more, and more subjective, judgments about just who will be voting.

As for the Center For Media and Public Affairs the media watchdog group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) has challenged CMPA's non-partisan claim, based on the argument that much of its funding has come from conservative sources, and that its founder, Dr. S. Robert Lichter, once held a chair in mass communications at the American Enterprise Institute (a right wing think tank) and was a Fox News contributor.

That's it? You've emptied your quiver by pointing to an openly progressive group criticizing a non-partisan group and by spinning a fable aobut PPP methods but disregarding the ACCURACY of their results?

To the issue of funding for Center For Media and Public Affairs, they get funding from non-conservative foundations:

In response to Media Transparency's claims, CMPA posted on its website a listing of $1,766,500 in grants received from 19 "non-conservative" and centrist foundations and non-profit organizations.
So, typical leftist response from you - attack the authority, not the data, not the argument. Why did you even bother? Was it so important to you that you out yourself as an idiot? Was this comment your opening salvo in your process of coming out of the closet?
 
Think about it if you are more than ten years old. Fox didn't exist when the liberal ass Walter Cronkite was king and the only news available to the public was filtered through a liberal screen. There was no talk radio during the 20th century and there was no fair and balanced media. Everything was propaganda and Americans were actually taught that incarcerating American citizens was fine as long as FDR signed the order. Truman didn't ask congress for permission to take sides in a Korean civil war and we lost about 50,000 Troops in a thoroughly botched operation but the liberal media didn't dare to criticize a democrat. Truman and MacArthur were treated to a ticker tape parade sponsored by the liberal media. The liberal media knew about KFK's weaknesses, ties to organized crime and dependence on prescription drugs but they kept it a secret and promoted a fictional "camelot" instead of telling the truth. The liberal media said it was fine for LBJ to use a fake crisis to send Troops to Southeast Asia because the media was part of the democrat party agenda. It until Wally Cronkite thought he could get a couple of points in ratings and flew to Vietnam, donned a helmet and flack jacket and pretended he was under fire while he pronounced the greatest US victory to be a stalemate that LBJ was blindsided. When the media turned on LBJ he tearfully threw in the towel and gave the V.C. a breather. Who would tolerate an undisclosed informant in an administration feeding two reporters unverified information? What honest media would allow the informant to be kept secret until he died and could not verify information? There was no fair and balanced media when Nixon was president. Today "watergate" looks like child's play but thanks to unrelenting pressure by a totally left wing media it brought down the Nixon administration.
 
The problem isn't Fox News. Fox News arose because ALL of the media was blocking neutral and conservative viewpoints.

But to address your question as asked, if Fox News was erased, then the Left would once again have a total lock on setting out the terms of discussion.
You'd be correct if Fox News wasn't so batshit crazy. It appeals to the simple mind. That's why it is so popular. MSNBC is so unpopular because it challenges people to think.

All this being said, MSNBC does actively try to promote the Democratic Party hence the bias.


MSNBC is a division of the Democrat propaganda wing.
 
Who did I cite?

Public Policy Polling:

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina.[1] PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and Chief Executive Officer.[2]

PPP is described as one of the "most accurate" polling companies[3][4] and also as a "Democratic-leaning"[5] polling company because it polls only for Democratic and progressive campaigns and organizations on a private basis.
Pew, Brookings, UCLA, and the Center for Media and Public Affairs:

The Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA) is a nonpartisan research and educational organization which conducts scientific studies of news and entertainment media. CMPA’s goal is to provide an empirical basis for ongoing debates over media coverage and impact through well-documented, timely, and readable studies.​
Public Policy Poling gets more criticism than any other polling platform. Besides asking ridiculous questions like whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture or whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying, their method of polling has many obscurities.
PPP doesn’t follow many of the industry’s best practices, like calling voters' cell phones; the firm only calls landlines. It discards hundreds of respondents in an unusual process known as “random deletion.” And because PPP's interviewers rely on lists of registered voters—rather than random digit dialing—and simply ask non-voters to hang up the phone, the firm can’t use census numbers to weight their sample, as many other pollsters do. This forces PPP to make more, and more subjective, judgments about just who will be voting.

As for the Center For Media and Public Affairs the media watchdog group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) has challenged CMPA's non-partisan claim, based on the argument that much of its funding has come from conservative sources, and that its founder, Dr. S. Robert Lichter, once held a chair in mass communications at the American Enterprise Institute (a right wing think tank) and was a Fox News contributor.

That's it? You've emptied your quiver by pointing to an openly progressive group criticizing a non-partisan group and by spinning a fable aobut PPP methods but disregarding the ACCURACY of their results?

To the issue of funding for Center For Media and Public Affairs, they get funding from non-conservative foundations:

In response to Media Transparency's claims, CMPA posted on its website a listing of $1,766,500 in grants received from 19 "non-conservative" and centrist foundations and non-profit organizations.
So, typical leftist response from you - attack the authority, not the data, not the argument. Why did you even bother? Was it so important to you that you out yourself as an idiot? Was this comment your opening salvo in your process of coming out of the closet?
Of couse you attack the authority if you believe them to have a bias and you can prove their bias. You show a couple of studies that claim Fox News is balanced yet there are hundreds of studies that counter that ridiculous notion. The data is ridiculous also. If someone condemned a candidate and it was reported by a news source the CMPA considered that negative reporting. So now commentary from other sources is considered news?? The study shows how that if a candidate won or lost a primary election that it was either a negative or positive story. I'm sorry but that's just stupid. It's like saying the news just reported Romney in a negative fashion because he lost the election. Why not post all the studies that show Fox News viewers are the least informed or the amount of lies and distortions they have yet to apologize for.
 
Why not post all the studies that show Fox News viewers are the least informed or the amount of lies and distortions they have yet to apologize for.

You mean that debunked study which equated liberal positions with "Correct" answers? That study? So Fox viewers were deemed uniformed because they didn't subscribe to liberal news viewpoints?

 
Why not post all the studies that show Fox News viewers are the least informed or the amount of lies and distortions they have yet to apologize for.

You mean that debunked study which equated liberal positions with "Correct" answers? That study? So Fox viewers were deemed uniformed because they didn't subscribe to liberal news viewpoints?

Let's look at the so called 4 myths this guy claims:

* Most economists estimate the stimulus caused jobs
* Most economists have estimated the health care law will worsen the deficit
* The economy is getting worse
* When TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it

* Most economists estimate the stimulus caused jobs
Now one thing I know is even the people who claim to know the most infornation about the economy argue amongst themselves endlessly. Respondents were asked about what most economists said. We find out that the tagline is correct but he then argues the reasons as to why economoists believe the stimulus caused jobs. He then starts nitpicking about which ecomomists were included and which were not. He also states the CBO report is flawed because he states it does not include jobs that were a result indirectly of the stimulus. I actually believe that only helps the position of the economists that made that estimate. He goes on to say "this could be" on several issues and we are back to the ying and yang known as the great economic debate. Projections and multipliers are brought up and although the outcome of the ecomony may differ from what is projected the bottom line is the tagline is still accurate. He then goes on to say how economists disagree on several points (who would have guessed) including multipliers and projections. We then see a heavily edited piece where a CBO director has his full answer edited out. The OP of the video needs to put in the whole answer. Quote-mining is dishonest. He then goes on to point out that he has no idea what the economists are basing there ideas on. I think it's great that he's challenging the report of these economists and I agree the economic related questions are vague and unclear but it still doesn't change the fact that most ecomomists estimate the stimulus caused jobs.


Now I'm only 7 minutes into the video and and I have a lot more information to tackle but I'm going to ease up because economics is not my expertise. I noticed the author of the video didn't even try to respond to the subjects of most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring or the auto bailout only occurred under Obama or the fact that Obama was born in the United States.
 
I think it's great that he's challenging the report of these economists and I agree the economic related questions are vague and unclear but it still doesn't change the fact that most ecomomists estimate the stimulus caused jobs.


Oh yeah? Seeing how you're not a Fox News viewer, and therefore informed, tell me, what was the source of the claim "that most economists believe that the stimulus created jobs?"

Liberal media reported that claim, the study authors scored this as the "correct" answer, so what is the source of that claim that all liberal news viewers know to be a true claim?

Remember the fatal flaw of this study - liberal propaganda is deemed correct. Fox News viewer are therefore deemed ill-informed because they don't accept liberal propaganda.

What's the source of the claim? You shouldn't even have to look it up online because, as an informed news viewer, you should know the answer and the source of the answer. But if you want cheat and go online, that's OK too.
 
I think it's great that he's challenging the report of these economists and I agree the economic related questions are vague and unclear but it still doesn't change the fact that most ecomomists estimate the stimulus caused jobs.

Oh yeah? Seeing how you're not a Fox News viewer, and therefore informed,
I didn't claim I was informed about every single subject under the sun and I already claimed I'm not an expert at economics. I am more informed than the average fox viewer if you would like to discuss all poltical subjects instead of rehashing this same one over and over. I noticed you completely ignored the other ones I posted and the end of my paragraph. Also no mention of sloppy journalism and outright lies. While you and your cohorts will defend fox and state that it's only the commentators that lie, you would also have to acknowlege that these lies and innacuracies are repeated by most of the fox viewers.

tell me, what was the source of the claim "that most economists believe that the stimulus created jobs?"
THat was the CBO which was already mentioned in my post.

Liberal media reported that claim,
Sorry but I have seen no evidence that any mainstream media in the US is liberal.
the study authors scored this as the "correct" answer, so what is the source of that claim that all liberal news viewers know to be a true claim?
You are the one to put up the video that talked about the University Of Maryland Study. I have not read that particular study.

Remember the fatal flaw of this study - liberal propaganda is deemed correct.
Propaganda is propaganda whoever is trying to sell you it.
Fox News viewer are therefore deemed ill-informed because they don't accept liberal propaganda.
No, Fox news viewers are ill-informed because of the misinformation that has been spouted on that show.
 
THat was the CBO which was already mentioned in my post.

That's not what the poll question asked, now is it? I am pretty conversant with economics and I was following the news and there was no way that the majority of economists stated that the stimulus would create jobs and so based on my own following of the news I would have disagreed with the question asked and therefore been judged to be ill-informed when, in fact, I was better informed than the study authors and was correct in my own prediction that the stimulus would not create jobs.

Sorry but I have seen no evidence that any mainstream media in the US is liberal.

You've seen no evidence that the mainstream media is liberal?Look up thread and read the Pew Study. Or look at this chart which looks at the ideology of the audience:

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No, Fox news viewers are ill-informed because of the misinformation that has been spouted on that show.

Where misinformation is defined as answers not in accord with liberal propaganda.

Pretty neat trick you guys use.
 

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