If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

[Auld Phart]

If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

No, because holding a trial would be a political disaster for the republican party.

The matter is moot til Nancy sends the paperwork to the Senate.

So far, she's seemingly holding them up because Mitch won't male the rules SHE wants.

It is NOT up to her, it is NOT up to minority Leader Schumer.

and, no matter WHAT the rules are eventually, the Democrats are going to need a minimum of 20 Republicans to vote to remove.

Do you see that happening?

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial, and I see the fallout for the Trump supporters if he refuses to give a fair trial. Without a fair trial, Trump can't be exonerated.

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial,

above her paygrade.

Ultimately, she has NO input

 

[BULLDOG]

If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Moscow Mi

tch is still trying to avoid having one.

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

Because Mcconnel will violate his oath of office.
(rigged trial).
Every senator has constitutional obligation to be impartial.

Every senator has constitutional obligation to be impartial.

How many Democrat senators do you think haven't already made up their minds?

How many Democrats in the House do you think were 'Impartial'?

Doesn't matter. Mitch already said he wouldn't allow a fair trial. With a fair trial, you might have a point whining about some Democratic senators. Without Mitch giving a fair trial anyway, it's all on him.

 

[Auld Phart]

If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Moscow Mi

tch is still trying to avoid having one.

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

Because Mcconnel will violate his oath of office.
(rigged trial).
Every senator has constitutional obligation to be impartial.

Every senator has constitutional obligation to be impartial.

How many Democrat senators do you think haven't already made up their minds?

How many Democrats in the House do you think were 'Impartial'?

Doesn't matter. Mitch already said he wouldn't allow a fair trial. With a fair trial, you might have a point whining about some Democratic senators. Without Mitch giving a fair trial anyway, it's all on him.

Anything done in the Senate will be as fair as the two inquiries by Nadler and Schiff, and the farce performed by the full House.

 

[BULLDOG]

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

No, because holding a trial would be a political disaster for the republican party.

The matter is moot til Nancy sends the paperwork to the Senate.

So far, she's seemingly holding them up because Mitch won't male the rules SHE wants.

It is NOT up to her, it is NOT up to minority Leader Schumer.

and, no matter WHAT the rules are eventually, the Democrats are going to need a minimum of 20 Republicans to vote to remove.

Do you see that happening?

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial, and I see the fallout for the Trump supporters if he refuses to give a fair trial. Without a fair trial, Trump can't be exonerated.

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial,

above her paygrade.

Ultimately, she has NO input

The reality of the situation says different.

 

[Auld Phart]

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

No, because holding a trial would be a political disaster for the republican party.

The matter is moot til Nancy sends the paperwork to the Senate.

So far, she's seemingly holding them up because Mitch won't male the rules SHE wants.

It is NOT up to her, it is NOT up to minority Leader Schumer.

and, no matter WHAT the rules are eventually, the Democrats are going to need a minimum of 20 Republicans to vote to remove.

Do you see that happening?

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial, and I see the fallout for the Trump supporters if he refuses to give a fair trial. Without a fair trial, Trump can't be exonerated.

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial,

above her paygrade.

Ultimately, she has NO input

The reality of the situation says different.

The reality of the situation says different.

What 'reality'?

Party line votes across the board?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Noah Feldman: If Trump's impeached, then why can't a Senate trial start now?

Trump has not been impeached, sorry libs.


“Call me old fashioned or naive, but I think my job is to explain what the U.S. Constitution actually means, no matter who likes it or doesn't. That led me to explain recently that under the Constitution as it was understood by the framers and as it still should be understood today, impeachment isn't complete when the House of Representatives votes to impeach.

Constitutionally, impeachment becomes official when the House sends word of that impeachment to the Senate, triggering a Senate trial.”

Same reason a judge cannot start a trial as soon as the indictment is done. That is not how it works.

You keep trying to hard to pretend it did not happen, but it did. It is really not a big deal though, just let it go.

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You have a good point, maybe it can start.

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

 

[BULLDOG]

Noah Feldman: If Trump's impeached, then why can't a Senate trial start now?

Trump has not been impeached, sorry libs.


“Call me old fashioned or naive, but I think my job is to explain what the U.S. Constitution actually means, no matter who likes it or doesn't. That led me to explain recently that under the Constitution as it was understood by the framers and as it still should be understood today, impeachment isn't complete when the House of Representatives votes to impeach.

Constitutionally, impeachment becomes official when the House sends word of that impeachment to the Senate, triggering a Senate trial.”

Same reason a judge cannot start a trial as soon as the indictment is done. That is not how it works.

You keep trying to hard to pretend it did not happen, but it did. It is really not a big deal though, just let it go.

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You seem to think your opinion on a discussion board will determine what happens next. Your opinion doesn't matter any more than mine. We will see what happens, but i don;t think it will be as you say.

 

[Auld Phart]

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You have a good point, maybe it can start.

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

HE'S holding it up?

Nancy is the one setting on the paperwork.

 

[Nostra]

If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Did he force Nazi Pelousy to hide her impeachment articles?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Noah Feldman: If Trump's impeached, then why can't a Senate trial start now?

Trump has not been impeached, sorry libs.


“Call me old fashioned or naive, but I think my job is to explain what the U.S. Constitution actually means, no matter who likes it or doesn't. That led me to explain recently that under the Constitution as it was understood by the framers and as it still should be understood today, impeachment isn't complete when the House of Representatives votes to impeach.

Constitutionally, impeachment becomes official when the House sends word of that impeachment to the Senate, triggering a Senate trial.”

Same reason a judge cannot start a trial as soon as the indictment is done. That is not how it works.

You keep trying to hard to pretend it did not happen, but it did. It is really not a big deal though, just let it go.

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You seem to think your opinion on a discussion board will determine what happens next. Your opinion doesn't matter any more than mine. We will see what happens, but i don;t think it will be as you say.

I drink your tears of anguish like a fine wine.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You have a good point, maybe it can start.

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

HE'S holding it up?

Nancy is the one setting on the paperwork.

Well, according to Weatherman he can start anytime he wants. So, it seems he is holding it up if you buy into what Weatherman is selling.

 

[Nostra]

If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

No, because holding a trial would be a political disaster for the republican party.

The matter is moot til Nancy sends the paperwork to the Senate.

So far, she's seemingly holding them up because Mitch won't male the rules SHE wants.

It is NOT up to her, it is NOT up to minority Leader Schumer.

and, no matter WHAT the rules are eventually, the Democrats are going to need a minimum of 20 Republicans to vote to remove.

Do you see that happening?

i see Pelosi putting pressure on Moscow Mitch to promise a fair trial, and I see the fallout for the Trump supporters if he refuses to give a fair trial. Without a fair trial, Trump can't be exonerated.

Nazi is done. She has no more say in this.

Her options are to keep hiding impeachment until it is null and void, or send it to the Senate where Dimwingers will be humiliated.

Nazi has no more power in this.

 

[Auld Phart]

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You have a good point, maybe it can start.

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

HE'S holding it up?

Nancy is the one setting on the paperwork.

Well, according to Weatherman he can start anytime he wants. So, it seems he is holding it up if you buy into what Weatherman is selling.

Last I heard, he needs the paperwork before he can start.

(I've heard a lot of things on BBs I dont' believe)

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You have a good point, maybe it can start.

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

HE'S holding it up?

Nancy is the one setting on the paperwork.

Well, according to Weatherman he can start anytime he wants. So, it seems he is holding it up if you buy into what Weatherman is selling.

Last I heard, he needs the paperwork before he can start.

(I've heard a lot of things on BBs I dont' believe)

I suspect that is the truth, but I was just going along with Weatherman.

 

[kyzr]

Where’s it documented on why it can’t start? You say he’s been impeached. Next step now.

You have a good point, maybe it can start.

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

Why is your guy holding it up if that is the case?

HE'S holding it up?

Nancy is the one setting on the paperwork.

Well, according to Weatherman he can start anytime he wants. So, it seems he is holding it up if you buy into what Weatherman is selling.

Last I heard, he needs the paperwork before he can start.

(I've heard a lot of things on BBs I don't believe)

Mitch can schedule senate business and hold trial during primary season to screw up the dems' chances. The senate has the "sole power to hold the trial" whenever they want.

A long delay also gives Barr and Durham more time to investigate before the trial, to ask the Bidens and Ciaramella more difficult questions.

The longer Nancy takes to send the articles over the longer Mitch can delay the trial.

 

[Lesh]

Relax Sweetums. It'll happen

 

[Dick Foster]

If Trump is impeached, why can’t the Senate trial start now?

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

It's apparently an uphill battle.

Moscow Mitch is still trying to avoid having one.

Why?

Because he isn't allowing the House to rule the Senate?

No, because holding a trial would be a political disaster for the republican party.

Actually it's quite the opposite for several reasons and that exactly why Pelosi is stalling. She knows that the shit will hit the democratic fan in a Senate impeachment trial.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

impeachment is dead as fuck. Trump will be president for an eternity.

deal with it!

Thank you for confirming your disdain for for the Constitution and our Republic


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impeachment is ambitiously audacious. you know what happens with stuff like that? they fail miserably!

How is that supposed to be a response to my comment regarding your " president for eternity" nonsense? Yes impeachment will likely fail in the Senate. But there will be a political price to pay for Republicans if they block the appearance of witness and put on a sham trial, or, if damaging testimony is heard and they acquit anyway. In any case they are fucked

 

[cutter]

No matter how much BS that is coming out of all this, I don't think either side in Congress really wants it to go to the full Senate. It's going to cost both the Reps and the Dems dearly. It's going to be a complete tossup and be very messy. Rump is dead in the water either way. And here is why.

If it doesn't get forwarded to the Senate, more information is going to keep coming in and be even more damning for Rump. But it gets the Senate Reps off the hook. They get to keep posturing even though they don't want that football in their court. Next year is election year. And when the Dems get down to one Candidate, He or She is going to have a miriad of ammunition that Rump has no answer to. But the Rep Representatives and Senators gets' to keep the support of the Rump Supporters so they can get reelected. There will be losses in the Senate for the Reps in the Senate and losses for the Dems in the House but both will still keep control of both houses like it is but it's going to be a bit tighter. No more slam dunks so that's a good thing. It's a win, win for all of them.

If the Impeachment goes forward to the Senate, Moscow Mitch can elect to file it in the deep dark recesses of his desk like he has many other things. But that's pretty much suicide for his career. Even though his career is toast as it is, he still thinks he has a chance to be reelected and stay Senate Majority Leader. Even if he's reelected, I don't believe that Rump will be a factor anymore and without Rump, Moscow Mitch will not stay Senate Majority Leader. There are some Republican Senators starting to speak out even now about many things. So Rump stays President but it's the same as if the articles were held by the House and not sent to the Senate.

Okay, now we get creative. Let's say the Articles are sent to the Senate and Moscow Mitch allows it to go to the full Senate Floor. Katy Bar the Door. Let's start out by saying, Rump will probably NOT be removed from office. But things get to be extremely messy at this point for the Republicans in both the House and the Senate. The Hearing is very formal. Only the information pertinent to the subject is allowed. Sorry, no Bidens, No Hillary, No Obama. Not even a mention of them. And if the Reps try and force that in, Chief Justice Roberts will have no choice but to hold that person in contempt and have them removed (at best). The list of witnesses will be introduced by both sides by the Senators but only those witnesses that pertain to the articles. I have no idea whom the Reps will include. They have been too busy with the "Hey, look over there" routine and that won't be allowed. But I already know the list of witnesses that the Dems will include and the biggest one will be Rudy. And if the Chief Justice will allow it, then Rudy will have ZERO option but to comply. If the Chief Justice deems it necessary, he has the support of the Supreme Court so that gets around more than 2 years of legal haggling. While Rudy cannot initially be made to talk about his dealings with and for Rump, he can be force to talk about his other dealings including with the other staff members and Ukrainian Government Officials along with allocation of funds. If anything is found amiss, the client attorney privilege is waived. Now, I won't go any further with this scenario but let's suffice to say, it's a friggin nightmare for everyone connected to it including all Dems and Reps equally. And Rump is still in office and still toast in Nove 2020. This is a nightmare for America. One that no one in the House or the Senate want's played out. The only two people that want it played out is Rump and Rudy who could give a rats ass about what's good for America or not.

Rump won't be removed from office until Jan 2021. But how he leaves is up for debate. Let's hope it's the first one and not the other two. It would be for the good of the nation if Rump were to go with a 4th option like Nixon did but that's just not in the cards.

More information will keep coming and be more damning for Trump? Really? They couldn't seem to find him doing anything wrong with a totally partisan House investigation and the Mueller report, what makes you think there is anything to find? I know most(all) politicians are corrupt but then again Trump is not a politician, he's a business man running a country. Very successfully too.