KittenKoder
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not if it isnt for sexI don't get it, if two straight women want to get married ... doesn't that make them gay?
just for the financial purposes
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not if it isnt for sexI don't get it, if two straight women want to get married ... doesn't that make them gay?
just for the financial purposes
You are truly dedicated to your vendetta against gays, aren't you?In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
not if it isnt for sexI don't get it, if two straight women want to get married ... doesn't that make them gay?
just for the financial purposes
So ... gay people are only gay because they have sex with someone of the same sex ... that means most of the lesbians I know are not really gay, nor many of the gay men. Strange ... very strange ...
In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
Then why call it marriage between two gays?In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
ACtually I see absolutely no reason that any two people could't create a civil domestic contract which gives them the same survivor rights as two married people.
Why not allow that?
Just don't call it marriage.
Then why call it marriage between two gays?In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
ACtually I see absolutely no reason that any two people could't create a civil domestic contract which gives them the same survivor rights as two married people.
Why not allow that?
Just don't call it marriage.
I agree. Regardless of the two parties involved, call it the same thing - marriage, civil union, lugnuts - in all cases.Then why call it marriage between two gays?ACtually I see absolutely no reason that any two people could't create a civil domestic contract which gives them the same survivor rights as two married people.
Why not allow that?
Just don't call it marriage.
Why call it marriage if it's a legal civil union regardless of the gender of both parties?
In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
ACtually I see absolutely no reason that any two people could't create a civil domestic contract which gives them the same survivor rights as two married people.
Why not allow that?
Just don't call it marriage.
In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
Does the current law prohibit two people of the opposite sex to get married specifically for the advantages you cite?
no, it does not. it may go against the stated public policy- which is generally to rpomote strong families.
The concept of separate but equal doesn't have a good track record. If we call homosexual marriages something different than heterosexual marriages, we would be hoping for a good outcome of separate but equal. I'm not all that confident in that being a good outcome.Then lets just rename everything. Screw anything traditional. Lets call the sun the moon, the oceans land, we'll even give YOU a new name. How about that?
Do you people ever listen to yourselves?
In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
I have no interest what goes on in their bedroom.
Do you care if a heterosexual couple marries just for the tax break?
That's a pretty deep legal question. It depends on the contractual obligations of the two parties, which varies by state - and the intent of the tax code.
For one thing - say two people marry for convenience for another reason, other than taxes, but as it turns out, they also get a tax break as a result. On the one hand, to take this break may be fraudulent - on the other hand, to tell the IRS you are not married when you are married may also be fraudulent. Its a catch 22
I have no interest what goes on in their bedroom.
Do you care if a heterosexual couple marries just for the tax break?
That's a pretty deep legal question. It depends on the contractual obligations of the two parties, which varies by state - and the intent of the tax code.
For one thing - say two people marry for convenience for another reason, other than taxes, but as it turns out, they also get a tax break as a result. On the one hand, to take this break may be fraudulent - on the other hand, to tell the IRS you are not married when you are married may also be fraudulent. Its a catch 22
what if a man and a women marry simply for business reasons....would that be fraud....
Does the current law prohibit two people of the opposite sex to get married specifically for the advantages you cite?
no, it does not. it may go against the stated public policy- which is generally to rpomote strong families.
Where is that public policy stated?
In order to take advantage of the tax code, inheritance, health insurance benefits, etc. Do proponents of gay marriage also support the "right" of straight people, who may not even live in the same state or even know each other well, to marry each other specifically to avail themselves of the incidents of marriage?
I have no interest what goes on in their bedroom.
Do you care if a heterosexual couple marries just for the tax break?
yes.
Cheney's daughter is gay, and Shep Smith is not a conservativei told ya he was "special"
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Ok, I know you would never believe it from me. But I know a few conservatives who could certainly tell you where gays come from. Go ahead, ask them:
Dick Cheney - daughter
Newt Gingrigh - sister
Alan Keyes - daughter
Phyllis Shaftley - son
David Drier - gay
Jom Kolbe - gay
Ken Melman - gay
Dan Gurley -gay
Shepard Smith - gay
Jerry Sanders - gay
the rest of that list i'm sure you pulled out of your ass again, as per your usual
no, it does not. it may go against the stated public policy- which is generally to rpomote strong families.
Where is that public policy stated?
Usually in the Marital and Domestic relations section of the state's code. Here is AZ's, which is pretty typical:
It is declared that the public policy of this state and the general purposes of this title are:
1. To promote strong families;
2. To promote strong family values.
not if it isnt for sex
just for the financial purposes
So ... gay people are only gay because they have sex with someone of the same sex ... that means most of the lesbians I know are not really gay, nor many of the gay men. Strange ... very strange ...
Are they sexually attracted to the same sex, despite not having sex with them?
see, i dont really care who is gay or notCheney's daughter is gay, and Shep Smith is not a conservativeOk, I know you would never believe it from me. But I know a few conservatives who could certainly tell you where gays come from. Go ahead, ask them:
Dick Cheney - daughter
Newt Gingrigh - sister
Alan Keyes - daughter
Phyllis Shaftley - son
David Drier - gay
Jom Kolbe - gay
Ken Melman - gay
Dan Gurley -gay
Shepard Smith - gay
Jerry Sanders - gay
the rest of that list i'm sure you pulled out of your ass again, as per your usual
You didn't know that Newt Gingrich's sister is gay?
You didn't know that the mother of the conservative movement, Phyllis Shaftley has a gay son?
See, conservatives really don't know where gays come from.
Shepard Smith NOT a conservative?