If we had more jobs , wages would go up. Case in point North Dakota

[Lovebears65]

Walmart is paying 17.00 an hour and some stores are up to 19.00 an hour.. So if we had more jobs the pay in other areas the pay will raise . Its called supply and demand North Dakota struggles to cope with its oil-boom prosperity | Star Tribune

A sign outside the local Wal-Mart advertises starting wages of $17 an hour.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Walmart is paying 17.00 an hour and some stores are up to 19.00 an hour.. So if we had more jobs the pay in other areas the pay will raise . Its called supply and demand North Dakota struggles to cope with its oil-boom prosperity | Star Tribune

A sign outside the local Wal-Mart advertises starting wages of $17 an hour.

So Walmart can still make money paying employees 2 1/2 times the minimum wage?

lol, ten thousand rightwing posts on USMB were just sent to the mythology section.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Those areas in North Dakota also have an insane cost of living. If those places didn't offer wages of around $17 then no one would be able to live there, meaning no business.

 

[kiwiman127]

Those areas in North Dakota also have an insane cost of living. If those places didn't offer wages of around $17 then no one would be able to live there, meaning no business.

Yep. Before the oil boom the cost of living in North Dakota was really low. Heck, the state had been losing population continuously. Back then, Walmart was paying their employees the minimum wage and people could exist in North Dakota with those wages. Now there's a shortage of workers forcing Walmart to pay $17.
Ever been to North Dakota? It's a horrible place. If it wasn't for the oil, North Dakota would still be losing population. Oil created the jobs without government assistance, thank Mother Earth.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Cost of living in ND went up due to demand of housing which owes its gratitude to what kiwiman referred to. All of that wouldnt have possible if it weren't for the technology to extract the crude from those shales.

 

[Noomi]

Walmart is paying 17.00 an hour and some stores are up to 19.00 an hour.. So if we had more jobs the pay in other areas the pay will raise . Its called supply and demand North Dakota struggles to cope with its oil-boom prosperity | Star Tribune

A sign outside the local Wal-Mart advertises starting wages of $17 an hour.

Cool.

 

[tinydancer]

Those areas in North Dakota also have an insane cost of living. If those places didn't offer wages of around $17 then no one would be able to live there, meaning no business.

Yep. Before the oil boom the cost of living in North Dakota was really low. Heck, the state had been losing population continuously. Back then, Walmart was paying their employees the minimum wage and people could exist in North Dakota with those wages. Now there's a shortage of workers forcing Walmart to pay $17.
Ever been to North Dakota? It's a horrible place. If it wasn't for the oil, North Dakota would still be losing population. Oil created the jobs without government assistance, thank Mother Earth.

It's a beautiful state. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[MACAULAY]

Walmart is paying 17.00 an hour and some stores are up to 19.00 an hour.. So if we had more jobs the pay in other areas the pay will raise . Its called supply and demand North Dakota struggles to cope with its oil-boom prosperity | Star Tribune

A sign outside the local Wal-Mart advertises starting wages of $17 an hour.

So Walmart can still make money paying employees 2 1/2 times the minimum wage?

lol, ten thousand rightwing posts on USMB were just sent to the mythology section.

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You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Walmart is paying 17.00 an hour and some stores are up to 19.00 an hour.. So if we had more jobs the pay in other areas the pay will raise . Its called supply and demand North Dakota struggles to cope with its oil-boom prosperity | Star Tribune

So Walmart can still make money paying employees 2 1/2 times the minimum wage?

lol, ten thousand rightwing posts on USMB were just sent to the mythology section.

.................................................

You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

 

[MACAULAY]

So Walmart can still make money paying employees 2 1/2 times the minimum wage?

lol, ten thousand rightwing posts on USMB were just sent to the mythology section.

.................................................

You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

.................................................................

Well you have me there. So, my suggestion is that some of you New Yorkers get that fat lazy ass up from that rocking chair on the front porch of the Federal Plantation; let go of that Government Tit so many of you are sucking off of; move out to North Dakota.....and get a damn job.

 

[Plasmaball]

Well love feel free to move to ND and get a job at walmart...

 

[OnePercenter]

Last time I checked a studio apartment rented for $1900.00/mo, a full hookup RV space rented for $900.00/mo. Both required a credit card for payment.

Seems the greed monster has hit ND.

 

[OnePercenter]

Let's help the ND workers;

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

 

[OnePercenter]

So Walmart can still make money paying employees 2 1/2 times the minimum wage?

lol, ten thousand rightwing posts on USMB were just sent to the mythology section.

.................................................

You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

Isn't that something!

 

[OnePercenter]

.................................................

You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

.................................................................

Well you have me there. So, my suggestion is that some of you New Yorkers get that fat lazy ass up from that rocking chair on the front porch of the Federal Plantation; let go of that Government Tit so many of you are sucking off of; move out to North Dakota.....and get a damn job.

You do understand that with the exaggerated rent, a worker making $17.00/hr will pay 2/3rd of their gross income per month for rent. Subtract taxes, food, utilities, gasoline, car payment, and insurance, you're now in the negative.

 

[Samson]

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

.................................................................

Well you have me there. So, my suggestion is that some of you New Yorkers get that fat lazy ass up from that rocking chair on the front porch of the Federal Plantation; let go of that Government Tit so many of you are sucking off of; move out to North Dakota.....and get a damn job.

You do understand that with the exaggerated rent, a worker making $17.00/hr will pay 2/3rd of their gross income per month for rent. Subtract taxes, food, utilities, gasoline, car payment, and insurance, you're now in the negative.

Yet, they aren't striking or refusing to work.......



Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand how to make ends meet.

 

[NYcarbineer]

.................................................

You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

.................................................................

Well you have me there. So, my suggestion is that some of you New Yorkers get that fat lazy ass up from that rocking chair on the front porch of the Federal Plantation; let go of that Government Tit so many of you are sucking off of; move out to North Dakota.....and get a damn job.

I'm retired.

Let's stick to the topic. How is that Walmart can pay $17 an hour, charge the same prices, and still make money and be happy to do so where labor is scarce,

but every day we're told by minimum wage opponents that a couple dollars raise in the minimum wage would be an economic calamity of lost jobs and skyrocketing prices?

 

[NYcarbineer]

.................................................

You are like the cat that Mark Twain laughed about...the one that sat down on a hot stove lid.

Twain said the cat would never sit down on a hot stove lid again, but never sit down on a cold one either.

You have learned a piece of the truth, but only a piece.

You need to check prices in a "boom town" area like North Dakota before you spout your socialist mantra.

I just checked prices. The front page of the weekly Walmart ad from Bismarck, SD and the front page of the weekly Walmart ad from my local Walmart in upstate NY are both showing the same items,

all for the same price.

Isn't that something!

It's not about whether or not these corporations can make money; it's about how much profit can they wring out of their operations by putting their workers through the wringer.

And they're HIRING in the Dakotas at twice or more the minimum wage? I thought layoffs were the inevitable at even a modest increases in the minimum wage...

...I think I may have heard that here, once or twice or a few hundred times...

 

[MACAULAY]

This thread is repeated daily on this board, over and over...and it has been repeated in various forms and in various facts situations for a very long time--ever since the first man sectioned off a piece of land and called it his own; and farmed it for his family; and sold the excess to his neighbors.

It is called the battle of the Haves v. the Have Nots...and no adherent of either side has ever had his mind changed by the other....ever.

It is the constant battle of Socialism v. a concept called "the profit incentive".

Socialism has failed in every single instance that it has ever been tried, and I defy any one of you Loons to point out an example of its success. It was a popular concept in this country way back on the early 1800's where communes were started with metronomic regularity...and every one of them failed for the same reason...the slackards realized they could sit on the porch and pretend to have a back ache and still eat just as good as the workers...until the slackards gradually increased in number sufficiently to where the workers took off and tried a component of the profit incentive called self reliance.

Socialism has always failed and socialism is what you Loons are basically advocating even if you wan't admit it or even if you don't understand that is what you are advocating.

The profit inventive, on the other hand, along with Jeffersonian Values and Christian Ideals, has built the greatest society in the history of mankind...ever. America.

It does have one vice which requires us to be on our guard--Greed. It is out of control right now right up there in Yankee Land--in New York City, on Wall Street, and the people who are in charge of doing something about it are two Socialists--Obama and Holder---but the Greed Mongers in New York have bought them and they now own them.

So, there is a problem, but instead of cleaning up you own house, you Loons in New York see the need to police a vice, not by good strong honest leadership, but by resorting to that which has failed EVERY TIME throughout history--Socialism.

Try self-reliance. You will feel better about yourself. You will set a good example for your kids. And clean up that cesspool in New York.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This thread is repeated daily on this board, over and over...and it has been repeated in various forms and in various facts situations for a very long time--ever since the first man sectioned off a piece of land and called it his own; and farmed it for his family; and sold the excess to his neighbors.

It is called the battle of the Haves v. the Have Nots...and no adherent of either side has ever had his mind changed by the other....ever.

It is the constant battle of Socialism v. a concept called "the profit incentive".

Socialism has failed in every single instance that it has ever been tried, and I defy any one of you Loons to point out an example of its success. It was a popular concept in this country way back on the early 1800's where communes were started with metronomic regularity...and every one of them failed for the same reason...the slackards realized they could sit on the porch and pretend to have a back ache and still eat just as good as the workers...until the slackards gradually increased in number sufficiently to where the workers took off and tried a component of the profit incentive called self reliance.

Socialism has always failed and socialism is what you Loons are basically advocating even if you wan't admit it or even if you don't understand that is what you are advocating.

The profit inventive, on the other hand, along with Jeffersonian Values and Christian Ideals, has built the greatest society in the history of mankind...ever. America.

It does have one vice which requires us to be on our guard--Greed. It is out of control right now right up there in Yankee Land--in New York City, on Wall Street, and the people who are in charge of doing something about it are two Socialists--Obama and Holder---but the Greed Mongers in New York have bought them and they now own them.

So, there is a problem, but instead of cleaning up you own house, you Loons in New York see the need to police a vice, not by good strong honest leadership, but by resorting to that which has failed EVERY TIME throughout history--Socialism.

Try self-reliance. You will feel better about yourself. You will set a good example for your kids. And clean up that cesspool in New York.

lol, another meltdown.