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acludem said:My big problem with this is the fact that this 14 year old boy, if he screwed up could be and likely would be charged as an adult with a crime. I find it problematic that we as a society have decided it's appropriate to assume that a 12, 13 or 14 year old is capable of forming the intent to harm and/or kill another human being and to understand the consequences, but we have also decided, in most states, that no one under 16, 17 or even 18 is capable of consenting to sex. We allow 18 year olds to die for our country but they can't serve on juries, drink beer, or gamble. Does anyone else see something a bit inconsistent in all this?
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Trigg said:What would everyone be saying if this was a 24 yo man who had slept with his 14 yo female student??????
I find it ironic that when its a female teacher wtih a male student it all about if he enjoyed it. However when its a male teacher with a female student its all about how he took advantage of this poor helpless little girl!!!
The whole thing is sick no matter how you look at it......
Trigg said:What would everyone be saying if this was a 24 yo man who had slept with his 14 yo female student??????
I find it ironic that when its a female teacher wtih a male student it all about if he enjoyed it. However when its a male teacher with a female student its all about how he took advantage of this poor helpless little girl!!!
The whole thing is sick no matter how you look at it......
Really?Gem said:I don't think Trigg is overreacting.
Well, I don't remember anyone saying anything to that effect.Trigg said:I find it ironic that when its a female teacher wtih a male student it all about if he enjoyed it.
Deornwulf said:Just curious - What are people's thoughts on the idea of a 50 y/o and an 18 y/o engaging in "consensual sex?"
Zhukov said:Really?
Well, I don't remember anyone saying anything to that effect.
Besides, lets not kid ourselves into thinking this is the same thing as a man having sex with his 14 year old female student, because it's not.
Is there a double standard? Absolutely, and for good reason.
Males are sexually aggressive, by nature, at a very early age. Can the same be said for females?
So I think we can comfortably say that this 14 year old boy engaged in consensual sex with his teacher.
That is not always clear when the genders of those involved are reversed.
A male teacher could threaten a female student with any number of things too coerce them into sex, but do you really think this boy needed to be coerced into anything?
That's the question this thread asks, perhaps in crude terms, and that is: is this child really a victim?
At any rate, the crime she is being charged with is not rape, but sexual battery for abusing her position of authority over the child in a sexually lewd manner.
Gem said:I don't think Trigg is overreacting. Seriously think about this...if this were a male teacher and a 14 year-old girl....
- Would you honestly be posting sexy pictures of him online and polling people to see whether or not they'd like to screw them?
- Would you honestly be responding to the question by saying, "Damn straight, I'd hit that in a second...and that little brat is one lucky girl...she should thank her lucky stars for getting to lose her virginity to that stud!!!!"
- Would you be honestly discussing how obviously the 14 year old girl was mature enough to decide whether or not she wanted to be seduced by her adult male teacher because shes mature enough to know that killing someone is wrong?
- Would the weird phone call between the man and the girl be viewed as him being crazy, obviously with the mind of a child....or would it be viewed as him obviously playing the young girl...speaking to her in a way that would make her comfortable so that he could get what he wanted...certainly not proof that she was crazy.
Would anyone be contemplating an insanity defense for a man?
I'm not criticizing anyone here....this case is between a woman and a boy, and we can not close our eyes to that...however, is justice blind? or does it matter in this situation?
Trigg said:Regardless if the "Child" ,and that is what a 14 yo boy is, feels like screwing his teacher it is the teacher "Adults" responsibilty to put a stop to this behavior.
Trigg said:Should we say that just because she was looking for it he should get off the hook???
She looks like an anchor for Fox News.
Anyone see California Girl lately?