Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I always get a tickle when someone can't, or won't grasp the difference between Yellow Dog Democrats, Dixiecrats, and post Reagan era Democrats.So...Woolworth's had the right to refuse service to black customers at their lunch counters?
When it comes to the constitution, no.
But show me in the Bible where it says blacks can't be served.
The segregationists and anti miscegenationists believed it was there, it doesn't matter if YOU believe it's there.
Segregationists, you mean liberals?
Most of them we're Democrats.
Segregationists, Mr Non Seqitur.
Yup. Democrats. George Wallace and the like.
Now blacks are talking about it more than anyone. Bet you could include protesters in Ferguson in that group.
B
Bullshit.Au contrare. Any Muslim pulling the same crap should be fined just as much.If this was involving Muslims you guys wouldn't be hassling these folks. The only religion the left wants to mess with is Christianity.
I guess screwing over Christians is cool cuz they wouldn't become violent and blow your asses up.
Suuuuuuure they would.
How many gays go to a mosque to ask for a wedding and expect to leave unscathed?
Zero. They would become a statistic.
Churches and mosques aren't subject to PA laws. Stop conflating.
Link.
You need a link to the 1st Amendment?
Then push to have all PA (public accommodation) laws repealed.Actually, I'd like to interrupt this right wing whine-fest by pointing out that the gay couples don't sue......the state fines the business. Now we return you back to your right wing religious martyrdom.Who said gays shouldn't be served? The reason for not serving is what falls under freedom of religion.
A gay walks into a bar, and the bar refuses service because it doesn't like gays, sue their asses off. A bar doesn't want to host a gay wedding on religious grounds is an entirely different can of worms.
Mark
So a business no longer has the freedom to offer its services to who it chooses? Would the state sue a gay or black business for refusing to cater to a KKK rally?
Excellent point.
Mark
Stupid point until bigots are declared a protected class.
Who gets to decide who is a protected class? The whole concept of a protected class is a shit on the principles of equality.
Everyone should be protected from the government, but people shouldn't have the government protect their feewings.
PA (public accommodation) laws. How many times do we have to tell you that?B
Bullshit.Au contrare. Any Muslim pulling the same crap should be fined just as much.
Suuuuuuure they would.
How many gays go to a mosque to ask for a wedding and expect to leave unscathed?
Zero. They would become a statistic.
Churches and mosques aren't subject to PA laws. Stop conflating.
Link.
You need a link to the 1st Amendment?
You said PA laws.
Quit moving the goalposts.
Back your shit up.
BYW, this issue surfaced in NY, not PA.
I have apparently missed your post providing examples of Uncle Jack's Bar B-Que shack refusing service to gays and getting away with it.Because it is a church....not a business. There is a difference when it comes to Constitutionality. Mt Zion Baptist Church (or any church, temple, etc.) is not required to marry anyone they don't want to.They are just screwing with the white Christians to make political points and push their way to more power in politics.
I haven't seen any same sex couples suing the Mt. Zion Baptist Church in the ghetto. Nothing to gain there ... And the congregation would run them out of town on a rail for suggesting their homosexuality is the same as being black.
.
Okay ... I don't see them suing Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack.
If you have to make a distinction as to the nature of the establishment ... It still doesn't diminish the act involved. The good folks at Uncle Jack's would have the same objections for the same reasons from the same people. There is still nothing the homosexuals would gain from suing a black man's bar-b-que shack.
If you cannot make the distinction or identify the equality between a homosexual individual's desires versus a Christian's desires ... You simply are not intellectually honest.
.
First of all, "the homosexuals" would not be suing Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack....they would be reporting to to the state's business bureau who would investigate the allegations. If the business admitted to refusing services to gay couples because they are gay, they would be fined.
Now....do you have an example of Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack refusing service to gays and getting away with it?
again, using the government to fight for you hurt widdle feewings.
Then push to have all PA (public accommodation) laws repealed.Actually, I'd like to interrupt this right wing whine-fest by pointing out that the gay couples don't sue......the state fines the business. Now we return you back to your right wing religious martyrdom.
So a business no longer has the freedom to offer its services to who it chooses? Would the state sue a gay or black business for refusing to cater to a KKK rally?
Excellent point.
Mark
Stupid point until bigots are declared a protected class.
Who gets to decide who is a protected class? The whole concept of a protected class is a shit on the principles of equality.
Everyone should be protected from the government, but people shouldn't have the government protect their feewings.
I always get a tickle when someone can't, or won't grasp the difference between Yellow Dog Democrats, Dixiecrats, and post Reagan era Democrats.When it comes to the constitution, no.
But show me in the Bible where it says blacks can't be served.
The segregationists and anti miscegenationists believed it was there, it doesn't matter if YOU believe it's there.
Segregationists, you mean liberals?
Most of them we're Democrats.
Segregationists, Mr Non Seqitur.
Yup. Democrats. George Wallace and the like.
Now blacks are talking about it more than anyone. Bet you could include protesters in Ferguson in that group.
They always wind up looking silly, unless they're just trolling after too many adult beverages, or too much Fox News/Rush, in the morning
I have apparently missed your post providing examples of Uncle Jack's Bar B-Que shack refusing service to gays and getting away with it.Because it is a church....not a business. There is a difference when it comes to Constitutionality. Mt Zion Baptist Church (or any church, temple, etc.) is not required to marry anyone they don't want to.They are just screwing with the white Christians to make political points and push their way to more power in politics.
I haven't seen any same sex couples suing the Mt. Zion Baptist Church in the ghetto. Nothing to gain there ... And the congregation would run them out of town on a rail for suggesting their homosexuality is the same as being black.
.
Okay ... I don't see them suing Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack.
If you have to make a distinction as to the nature of the establishment ... It still doesn't diminish the act involved. The good folks at Uncle Jack's would have the same objections for the same reasons from the same people. There is still nothing the homosexuals would gain from suing a black man's bar-b-que shack.
If you cannot make the distinction or identify the equality between a homosexual individual's desires versus a Christian's desires ... You simply are not intellectually honest.
.
First of all, "the homosexuals" would not be suing Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack....they would be reporting to to the state's business bureau who would investigate the allegations. If the business admitted to refusing services to gay couples because they are gay, they would be fined.
Now....do you have an example of Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack refusing service to gays and getting away with it?
again, using the government to fight for you hurt widdle feewings.
So...where is your example of any homosexuals being in a position to sue a black man's bar-b-que shack for refusal of service? How will we know if they would sue or not if we don't have examples to compare?Because it is a church....not a business. There is a difference when it comes to Constitutionality. Mt Zion Baptist Church (or any church, temple, etc.) is not required to marry anyone they don't want to.They are just screwing with the white Christians to make political points and push their way to more power in politics.
I haven't seen any same sex couples suing the Mt. Zion Baptist Church in the ghetto. Nothing to gain there ... And the congregation would run them out of town on a rail for suggesting their homosexuality is the same as being black.
.
Okay ... I don't see them suing Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack.
If you have to make a distinction as to the nature of the establishment ... It still doesn't diminish the act involved. The good folks at Uncle Jack's would have the same objections for the same reasons from the same people. There is still nothing the homosexuals would gain from suing a black man's bar-b-que shack.
If you cannot make the distinction or identify the equality between a homosexual individual's desires versus a Christian's desires ... You simply are not intellectually honest.
.
First of all, "the homosexuals" would not be suing Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack....they would be reporting to to the state's business bureau who would investigate the allegations. If the business admitted to refusing services to gay couples because they are gay, they would be fined.
Now....do you have an example of Uncle Jack's Bar-B-Que Shack refusing service to gays and getting away with it?
I addressed your questions in the post you responded to in the first place ...
"The good folks at Uncle Jack's would have the same objections for the same reasons from the same people. There is still nothing the homosexuals would gain from suing a black man's bar-b-que shack."
Do try to keep up.
Evil like gay will one day say"oops, we goofed." Then they will cry like the babies they are acting like.NY Farm That Refused To Host Lesbian Wedding Fined $13,000
Liberty Ridge Farm's owners, citing constitutional rights to free speech and religious freedom, have appealed the August ruling by the Division of Human Rights that they violated state anti-discrimination law.
Their attorney said Robert and Cynthia Gifford paid the $10,000 state civil penalty and $1,500 each to Melisa and Jennie McCarthy, whose 2013 wedding they declined to host. The Giffords testified last year that in their Christian beliefs, marriage is between a man and a woman, and the ceremonies are held at their home, a private space where their own rights should be determinate.
Good!
We hurt them in the pocketbook and we shame them in the media.
There is a dark and twisted version of Christianity being practiced in the U.S. They throw love and tolerance over for fear and ignorance, clinging to one archaic hebrew tribal law.
PA (public accommodation) laws. How many times do we have to tell you that?B
Bullshit.Suuuuuuure they would.
How many gays go to a mosque to ask for a wedding and expect to leave unscathed?
Zero. They would become a statistic.
Churches and mosques aren't subject to PA laws. Stop conflating.
Link.
You need a link to the 1st Amendment?
You said PA laws.
Quit moving the goalposts.
Back your shit up.
BYW, this issue surfaced in NY, not PA.
Actually, the civil rights bill was passed due to NORTHERN Republicans and NORTHERN Democrats......and signed by a Democrat President into law.I always get a tickle when someone can't, or won't grasp the difference between Yellow Dog Democrats, Dixiecrats, and post Reagan era Democrats.The segregationists and anti miscegenationists believed it was there, it doesn't matter if YOU believe it's there.
Segregationists, you mean liberals?
Most of them we're Democrats.
Segregationists, Mr Non Seqitur.
Yup. Democrats. George Wallace and the like.
Now blacks are talking about it more than anyone. Bet you could include protesters in Ferguson in that group.
They always wind up looking silly, unless they're just trolling after too many adult beverages, or too much Fox News/Rush, in the morning
You want to segregate them but the point is they were Democrats. The only reason we passed a civil rights bill was because of Republicans. Same goes for the Emancipation Proclamation.
Them's the facts.
Read it and weep.
idiot racist you are.I'd rather pay the money than compromise my values. Besides, they are worth more than $13,000.
That's what a ni99er hating racist would have said 40 years ago. Nice job
Evil like gay will one day say"oops, we goofed." Then they will cry like the babies they are acting like.NY Farm That Refused To Host Lesbian Wedding Fined $13,000
Liberty Ridge Farm's owners, citing constitutional rights to free speech and religious freedom, have appealed the August ruling by the Division of Human Rights that they violated state anti-discrimination law.
Their attorney said Robert and Cynthia Gifford paid the $10,000 state civil penalty and $1,500 each to Melisa and Jennie McCarthy, whose 2013 wedding they declined to host. The Giffords testified last year that in their Christian beliefs, marriage is between a man and a woman, and the ceremonies are held at their home, a private space where their own rights should be determinate.
Good!
We hurt them in the pocketbook and we shame them in the media.
There is a dark and twisted version of Christianity being practiced in the U.S. They throw love and tolerance over for fear and ignorance, clinging to one archaic hebrew tribal law.
Exactly, because you cannot handle the topic.Apparently you are upset about having no valid argument. Thus you resort to rude insults.Is there a reason why you have to be rude? Besides not having an argument to stand with, that is?No...that still stands....but it stands separate from this particular case. Gays most certainly should be allowed equal access to our court system and to whine about them being "litigious" is silly. However, that has no bearing in this particular case because the couple did not sue........the state fined the business based on a law that's been on the books for several years.
and again, you are splitting hairs. Fine, they are wasting government's time with this. Still, go fuck yourself.
1. you deserve it you Nazi fuck.
2. People deciding their fake rights are more important than others real rights, especially when they get government involved piss me off and deserve no courtesy whatsoever.
I resort to rude insults regardless of the validity of my arguments, said insults are based on the target, not the topic.
Sigh.....again you are referring to the equivalent to a church....a religious institution. Just like no church is required to marry anyone against that church's doctrine, same with any mosque.Au contrare. Any Muslim pulling the same crap should be fined just as much.Should a business be able to provide a business service to some, but not all, law-abiding citizens due to their declared religious grounds? Under the law that has to be a clear yes or no answer.
If this was involving Muslims you guys wouldn't be hassling these folks. The only religion the left wants to mess with is Christianity.
I guess screwing over Christians is cool cuz they wouldn't become violent and blow your asses up.
Suuuuuuure they would.
How many gays go to a mosque to ask for a wedding and expect to leave unscathed?
Zero. They would become a statistic.
HOWEVER, if a wedding catering service, or wedding location business is being owned/run by a Muslim...they too are required to follow state PA (public accommodation) laws as per their business license.
So.....how long are you going to keep throwing out religious institutions as "examples" in a case that involved a business, not a religious institution? Do you not think we can see the difference?
Ok....so, state PA (public accommodation) laws are written with those express differences spelled out?Then push to have all PA (public accommodation) laws repealed.So a business no longer has the freedom to offer its services to who it chooses? Would the state sue a gay or black business for refusing to cater to a KKK rally?
Excellent point.
Mark
Stupid point until bigots are declared a protected class.
Who gets to decide who is a protected class? The whole concept of a protected class is a shit on the principles of equality.
Everyone should be protected from the government, but people shouldn't have the government protect their feewings.
PA's have their place in things like the hotel industry, travel services, actual public spaces, and other things relevant to necessities and interstate commerce. what has to be repealed is calling everything a public accommodation.
That happens. I would go somewhere else. But I don't try to force my Christian beliefs down a business throat neither. I wouldn't pay the fine neither.Evil like gay will one day say"oops, we goofed." Then they will cry like the babies they are acting like.NY Farm That Refused To Host Lesbian Wedding Fined $13,000
Liberty Ridge Farm's owners, citing constitutional rights to free speech and religious freedom, have appealed the August ruling by the Division of Human Rights that they violated state anti-discrimination law.
Their attorney said Robert and Cynthia Gifford paid the $10,000 state civil penalty and $1,500 each to Melisa and Jennie McCarthy, whose 2013 wedding they declined to host. The Giffords testified last year that in their Christian beliefs, marriage is between a man and a woman, and the ceremonies are held at their home, a private space where their own rights should be determinate.
Good!
We hurt them in the pocketbook and we shame them in the media.
There is a dark and twisted version of Christianity being practiced in the U.S. They throw love and tolerance over for fear and ignorance, clinging to one archaic hebrew tribal law.
So anyone who wants to be treated equally under the law is "crying like a baby"? How would you react if you went to a business and they informed you that you were not going to be served because you were a Christian even tho they serve everyone else? Would you go to the state business bureau, crying like a baby?
We're too uppity?For many years I have been comfortable with equal (EQUAL) rights, including marriage and adoption, for same-sex couples.
However, recent in-your-face stuff, as Hazel Nut is pushing, have caused me to think in terms of "queers" and "homos". Hazy, what you're doing is putting your cause back abou5 50 years.
