I'm reading that Trump can build a wall with the money earmarked for military...

[busybee01]

He cannot use DOD money without Congressional approval. That would require 60 votes in the Senate.

FALSE! POTUS is C in C of the DOD, not the congress. Nice try.

The Constitution gives the power of the purse to Congress not Trump.

 

[busybee01]

You are a crazy loon. That definitely is illegal.

Having the military defend the US from invaders is illegal ? You must be the crazy loon.

Having the military enforce civil law is illegal. There are no armed troops under a foreign power crossing our borders.

 

[busybee01]

it's a waste of fucking money, dipshit.

First of all, there ISN'T any money. Whole thing will be reimbursed from Mexican remittances$$ and/or anchor baby welfare. Even if it did cost something, they're saying $25 Billion, one time cost. We lose $28 Billion/year in remittances to Mexico alone. $133 Billion/year total (that's EVERY YEAR)

And that's just part of it. There's also all the US tax $$ we lose from illegal alien employment, welfare to illegals, incarceration of them, school $$ lost, hospital ER $$ lost, scarce resources con$umed, etc etc

Best investment we ever made.

Enforcing civilian law is not a role for the military. You are the one repeating a idiotic theory. I am pointing out law.

You're pointing out how ignorant you are.

You are the one who is ignorant. The people who work in government know what can and cannot be done. You are a dictatorial thug who thinks Trump can do whatever he wants. This is a country of checks and balances. There also is a provision that prevents any money other than what was appropriated to pay for maintenance.

 

[busybee01]

The Insurrection Act does not apply. That would turn Trump into a dictator and he should definitely be impeached.

So you would have impeached Eisenhower, and you're calling him a dictator ? Are you feeling OK ? I mean really.

Are you feeling okay? This is not the 1950s. What Eisenhower did was wrong. It is not going to happen today.

 

[protectionist]

Having the military enforce civil law is illegal. There are no armed troops under a foreign power crossing our borders.

 

[protectionist]

Are you feeling okay? This is not the 1950s. What Eisenhower did was wrong. It is not going to happen today.

Wrong ? HA HA HA. Why ? How ?

And other presidents have done it too. What school did YOU go to ?

 

[protectionist]

You are the one who is ignorant. The people who work in government know what can and cannot be done. You are a dictatorial thug who thinks Trump can do whatever he wants. This is a country of checks and balances. There also is a provision that prevents any money other than what was appropriated to pay for maintenance.

Excuse me > Did you think that the Army Corps of Engineers - which I was a member of (Combat Construction Specialist 5th class), for 6 years, only does what somebody has designated to them in advance ?

You know nothing - the Corps constructs things, demolishes other things, clears woodlands, build roads and airfields, etc, and often does these on the spur of the moment, in reaction to storms other natural disasters. There is no set schedule or special funding.

The grunts go to work when a call comes in, from orders which can come at any time from high rank officials, . And there is none higher than the POTUS.

Sounds like you've been listening to the know-nothings at MSNBC and CNN, who make a living by pretending they know about this stuff.

 

[Faun]

Never. The Army Corp of Engineers fall under the umbrella of the Department of Defense and they’ve not received any funding for such a task.

Excuse me > Did you think that the Army Corps of Engineers - which I was a member of (Combat Construction Specialist 5th class), for 6 years, only does what somebody has designated to them in advance ?

You know nothing - the Corps constructs things, demolishes other things, clears woodlands, build roads and airfields, etc, and often does these on the spur of the moment, in reaction to storms other natural disasters. There is no set schedule or special funding.

The grunts go to work​

when a call comes in, from orders which can come at any time from high rank officials, . And there is none higher than the POTUS.

Sounds like you've been listening to the know-nothings at MSNBC and CNN, who make a living by pretending they know about this stuff.

And you still haven't shucked that ludicrous, LIE ad. You're a sad case.

Aww, poor, senile gramps. Still pretending he didn’t get caught posting pictures of the ACoE building a flood wall and portraying it as if they were building a border wall.

 

[busybee01]

Having the military enforce civil law is illegal. There are no armed troops under a foreign power crossing our borders.

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No that is still not a invasion.

 

[busybee01]

Are you feeling okay? This is not the 1950s. What Eisenhower did was wrong. It is not going to happen today.

Wrong ? HA HA HA. Why ? How ?

And other presidents have done it too. What school did YOU go to ?

This is the 21st century. People are less trusting on government on both sides. The negative backlash against such a move would be loud. I went to the school of reality.

 

[busybee01]

You are the one who is ignorant. The people who work in government know what can and cannot be done. You are a dictatorial thug who thinks Trump can do whatever he wants. This is a country of checks and balances. There also is a provision that prevents any money other than what was appropriated to pay for maintenance.

Excuse me > Did you think that the Army Corps of Engineers - which I was a member of (Combat Construction Specialist 5th class), for 6 years, only does what somebody has designated to them in advance ?

You know nothing - the Corps constructs things, demolishes other things, clears woodlands, build roads and airfields, etc, and often does these on the spur of the moment, in reaction to storms other natural disasters. There is no set schedule or special funding.

The grunts go to work when a call comes in, from orders which can come at any time from high rank officials, . And there is none higher than the POTUS.

Sounds like you've been listening to the know-nothings at MSNBC and CNN, who make a living by pretending they know about this stuff.

You are a know-nothing. There is a specific provision banning the use of public money from building a wall. The military is not above the law. The POTUS does not have the power to override the Congress on matters involving the purse.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You are the one who is ignorant. The people who work in government know what can and cannot be done. You are a dictatorial thug who thinks Trump can do whatever he wants. This is a country of checks and balances. There also is a provision that prevents any money other than what was appropriated to pay for maintenance.

Excuse me > Did you think that the Army Corps of Engineers - which I was a member of (Combat Construction Specialist 5th class), for 6 years, only does what somebody has designated to them in advance ?

You know nothing - the Corps constructs things, demolishes other things, clears woodlands, build roads and airfields, etc, and often does these on the spur of the moment, in reaction to storms other natural disasters. There is no set schedule or special funding.

The grunts go to work when a call comes in, from orders which can come at any time from high rank officials, . And there is none higher than the POTUS.

Sounds like you've been listening to the know-nothings at MSNBC and CNN, who make a living by pretending they know about this stuff.

You are a know-nothing. There is a specific provision banning the use of public money from building a wall. The military is not above the law. The POTUS does not have the power to override the Congress on matters involving the purse.

You say lots of ignorant shit..,clearly you’re misinterpreting our laws, statutes, provisions and the US Constitution...probably due to a language/communication barrier. Help us understand your motive and desire to stay confused on the subject....What part of that filthy shithole Mexico are you from and how long have you been fucking over REAL Americans?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let’s have a “wall wager”...

Who is willing to put their existence on this forum on the line based on whether the military builds the wall or not?


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[protectionist]

No that is still not a invasion.

Foreigners coming illegally across your national border, by the millions.. The commiting international burglary of your economy (remittances$$$) + millions of jobs.

If this ain't invasion, summers in Florida are cold.

Just curious though, how do you define "invasion" ?

 

[protectionist]

This is the 21st century. People are less trusting on government on both sides. The negative backlash against such a move would be loud. I went to the school of reality.

As time goes by, Americans would be more and more in favor of the wall going up. Especially as they see more illegal aliens leaving, and less taking their place. With the many Harms of immigration disappearing, Americans can't help but rejoice.

HERE'S reality for ya >>>

Harms of Immigration

1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).

2. Wage reduction.

3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).

4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($138 Billion/year).

5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

6. Increased crime.

7. Increased traffic congestion.

8. Increased pollution.

9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.

10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.

11. Overcrowding in government offices.

12. Overcrowding in schools.

13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.

14. Cultural erosion.

15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)

16. Introduction of foreign diseases

17. Influx of terrorists.

 

[protectionist]

You are a know-nothing. There is a specific provision banning the use of public money from building a wall. The military is not above the law. The POTUS does not have the power to override the Congress on matters involving the purse.

The post you quoted refuted you. Many times we got orders to go out and build a bridge, set up pre-fabs, clear roads. No congress anything. The money is there in the DOD. When Engineers call for it, they get it. You're clueless, saturated with liberal BS talk.

 

[deanrd]

I am reading this from so many on twitter They suggest as it is an omnibus, it is ongoign resolution and only "recommended" to be spent a particular way, but the president has leeway. They said Oama did this very thing when he was president.

So, is this true? Even if it isn't true per se, what is stopping Trump from rightfully deeming the border issue a National Security issue, as he did with tariffs and just build it with the funds? Who can stop him from making this decision?

They’re taking money away from the military so they’ll be less ready.
They believe the wall will be “effective“.

 

[xyz]

I am reading this from so many on twitter They suggest as it is an omnibus, it is ongoign resolution and only "recommended" to be spent a particular way, but the president has leeway. They said Oama did this very thing when he was president.

So, is this true? Even if it isn't true per se, what is stopping Trump from rightfully deeming the border issue a National Security issue, as he did with tariffs and just build it with the funds? Who can stop him from making this decision?

They’re taking money away from the military so they’ll be less ready.
They believe the wall will be “effective“.

I don't think effectiveness of the wall has any importance, the wall is just a scam for him to impress his supporters.

And the sad thing is, he is nationalizing privately owned real estate to get his stupid wall built. Just like communists.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I am reading this from so many on twitter They suggest as it is an omnibus, it is ongoign resolution and only "recommended" to be spent a particular way, but the president has leeway. They said Oama did this very thing when he was president.

So, is this true? Even if it isn't true per se, what is stopping Trump from rightfully deeming the border issue a National Security issue, as he did with tariffs and just build it with the funds? Who can stop him from making this decision?

They’re taking money away from the military so they’ll be less ready.
They believe the wall will be “effective“.

I don't think effectiveness of the wall has any importance, the wall is just a scam for him to impress his supporters.

And the sad thing is, he is nationalizing privately owned real estate to get his stupid wall built. Just like communists.

/—-/ The Green New Deal is just a scam to impress the wacko dem base. Two can play your game.

 

[bripat9643]

I am reading this from so many on twitter They suggest as it is an omnibus, it is ongoign resolution and only "recommended" to be spent a particular way, but the president has leeway. They said Oama did this very thing when he was president.

So, is this true? Even if it isn't true per se, what is stopping Trump from rightfully deeming the border issue a National Security issue, as he did with tariffs and just build it with the funds? Who can stop him from making this decision?

They’re taking money away from the military so they’ll be less ready.
They believe the wall will be “effective“.

I don't think effectiveness of the wall has any importance, the wall is just a scam for him to impress his supporters.

And the sad thing is, he is nationalizing privately owned real estate to get his stupid wall built. Just like communists.

Another lying idiot self-identifies.

When did leftwingers ever care about property rights?