Immigrants: A Net Good

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Numerous studies have found that immigrants bolster growth by increasing the labor force and consumer demand. Rather than being a drain, immigrants generally pay more in taxes than they claim in government benefits. Even a large influx of immigrants does not mean fewer jobs for the existing population, since economies do not have a finite number of jobs. Immigrants often bring skills with them, and some start new businesses, creating jobs for others. The less skilled often take jobs that are hard to fill, like in child care, for example, which allows more parents to work.

A working paper published last year by four economists found that immigration benefited local populations in 19 of the 20 industrialized countries they studied.

Another study found that an influx of refugees into Denmark in the 1990s led native workers to switch to more skilled jobs and away from jobs that were mostly manual labor. As a result, some local workers earned higher wages.

Immigrants can be particularly important for countries like Germany that have low birthrates and aging populations.

How about those leeches we hear so much whining about?

Some officials in Europe, particularly in Britain, have raised another objection to immigration: “benefits tourism,” the idea that immigrants will move simply to take advantage of generous government benefits. But there is little evidence to support this claim.

In Britain, for example, immigrants from the rest of Europe pay more in taxes than they receive in government benefits, according to an analysis by two economists.Another study found that reducing immigration to Britain by 50 percent, along the lines of what Prime Minister David Cameron has advocated, would actually reduce the country’s gross domestic product and force the government to raise tax rates to keep its budget balanced.

Discuss.

 

[bedowin62]

is this Denmark idiot?

 

[bedowin62]

Illegal Aliens a Drain on U.S. Taxpayers, Report Says
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The big myth about refugees

Refugees are often described as a"burden" for the countries they settle in. The usual thinking is that they are drain on limited government coffers and a weight on sluggish economies, but that countries ought to take them in for moral and legal reasons.

However, research that has looked at the effect of refugees around the world suggests that, in the longer run, this view is often wrong. From Denmark to Uganda to Cleveland, studies have found that welcoming refugees has a positive or at least a neutral effect on a host community's economy and wages.

Countries do incur big costs up front to help refugees. Governments need to spend money to process claims for asylum, temporarily house and feed refugees, and help them find permanent homes, jobs and skills training.

But beyond the upfront costs of processing and settling refugees, the perceived burden of refugees on a host economy may not be as significant as it seems. “There’s not any credible research that I know of that in the medium and long term that refugees are anything but a hugely profitable investment,” says Michael Clemens, a senior fellow who leads the Migration and Development Initiative at the Center for Global Development, a Washington think tank.

Clemens cites a study by Kalena Cortes, a Texas A&M professor who followed refugee and non-refugee immigrants who arrived in the U.S. in the late 1970s. Cortes found that it took the refugees a few years to get on their feet. But soon the refugees were out-earning non-refugee immigrants, and adding more value to the economy each year than the entire original cost of receiving and resettling them.

The most common worry from locals is that refugees will take over jobs, especially unskilled ones. Refugees often lack the language skills necessary to do higher-paid work, and so a big influx of refugees into a job market can cause wages at the lower-end of the spectrum to fall.

But, in the longer run, refugees appear to play an outsized role in creating new jobs, and even raising the wages of natives. One reason is that refugees appear more likely than other groups to open small businesses.

Research by Giovanni Peri of the University of California, Davis and Mette Foged of the University of Copenhagen shows how an influx of lower-wage immigrants into a community tends to raise wages for everyone else. Low-skilled foreign workers and low-skilled domestic workers often complement each other instead of displacing each other, their work shows.

There are other reasons refugees can benefit the local economy: For one, people tend to discount the impact of refugees as consumers for local businesses. Their arrival boosts demand for food, shelter, infrastructure and many other services, benefiting farmers, construction companies, landlords and more.

 

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About 40 percent of our Ph.D. scientists and engineers were born in another country, Orrenius writes. People tend to focus on illegal or low-skilled immigration when discussing immigrants and often do not recognize the tremendous contribution of high-skilled immigrants.

Dallas Federal Reserve

A new study, released last week, throws new information into the debate over foreign workers who arrive in the U.S. on such specialty visas.

The report, based on telephone surveys with 2,054 companies and projections by researchers at the University of California at Berkeley and Duke University, says about 25 percent of the technology and engineering companies launched in the U.S. in the past decade had at least one foreign-born founder.

Immigrants Become Founding Fathers

These immigrant founders tended to be highly educated—96 percent held bachelor’s degrees and 74 percent held graduate or postgraduate degrees, with 75 percent of these degrees in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics-related fields. The vast majority of these company founders didn’t come to the United States as entrepreneurs 52 percent came to study, 40 percent came to work, and 5.5 percent came for family reasons. Only 1.6 percent came to start companies in America.

Even though these founders immigrated for other purposes initially, they typically started their companies just 13.25 years after arriving in the United States. And, rather than settling in well-established immigrant gateways, such as New York or Los Angeles, they moved to a diverse group of tech centers across the country and helped fuel their growth.

http://www.kauffman.org/uploadedFiles/WadhwaTBook09.pdf

While 23 percent of the nation's cooks and 20 percent of its janitors were immigrants in 2000, 27 percent of new computer-software engineers were also immigrants, according to a recent Migration Policy Institute study.

Indeed, the more technically educated the group, the more likely immigrants are to be overrepresented in it. While the foreign born make up 15 percent of the overall workforce, according to the 2000 census, they constitute approximately 17 percent of those with a bachelor's degree in science and engineering occupations, 29 percent of those with a master's degree, and 39 percent of those with a doctoral degree.

As US nears milestone, a rising mix of immigrants - CSMonitor.com



"[T]he more technically educated the group, the more likely immigrants are to be overrepresented in it."

 

[bedowin62]

LOVE a left-wing loser with a file full of propaganda to post pre-thread!!

YAWN

 

[g5000]

LOVE a left-wing loser with a file full of propaganda to post pre-thread!!

YAWN

Overwhelmed by the FACTS you can't dispute, eh?

"I gotta story bout an illegal Mexican stealing hubcaps!"

If you want to see a loser with a file of propaganda, open any PoliticalChic topic.

 

[bedowin62]

THIS IS THE AMOUNT JUST ONE ETHNIC GROUP OF ILLEGALS SENDS OUT OF THE COUNTRY IN JUST ONE YEAR:


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[bedowin62]

LOVE a left-wing loser with a file full of propaganda to post pre-thread!!

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Studies, not propaganda like the CIS.

because "studies" cant also be propaganda

you're a brainwashed idiot

 

[bedowin62]

B-B-B-B-BB-BUT a social scientist that shares my views says so!!!!!!

snicker

 

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[g5000]

LOVE a left-wing loser with a file full of propaganda to post pre-thread!!

YAWN

Studies, not propaganda like the CIS.

because "studies" cant also be propaganda

you're a brainwashed idiot

Go ahead and debunk them. Don't post a story about a Mexican stealing hubcaps. Address the actual facts in the studies directly.

 

[bedowin62]

snopes.com: Just One State - Cost of Illegals in Los Angeles
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This is a topic about immigrants and refugees, not just illegals.

Try again.

Read the links that have been provided and address them directly. If you can.

 

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Numerous studies have found that immigrants bolster growth by increasing the labor force and consumer demand. Rather than being a drain, immigrants generally pay more in taxes than they claim in government benefits. Even a large influx of immigrants does not mean fewer jobs for the existing population, since economies do not have a finite number of jobs. Immigrants often bring skills with them, and some start new businesses, creating jobs for others. The less skilled often take jobs that are hard to fill, like in child care, for example, which allows more parents to work.

A working paper published last year by four economists found that immigration benefited local populations in 19 of the 20 industrialized countries they studied.

Another study found that an influx of refugees into Denmark in the 1990s led native workers to switch to more skilled jobs and away from jobs that were mostly manual labor. As a result, some local workers earned higher wages.

Immigrants can be particularly important for countries like Germany that have low birthrates and aging populations.

How about those leeches we hear so much whining about?

Some officials in Europe, particularly in Britain, have raised another objection to immigration: “benefits tourism,” the idea that immigrants will move simply to take advantage of generous government benefits. But there is little evidence to support this claim.

In Britain, for example, immigrants from the rest of Europe pay more in taxes than they receive in government benefits, according to an analysis by two economists.Another study found that reducing immigration to Britain by 50 percent, along the lines of what Prime Minister David Cameron has advocated, would actually reduce the country’s gross domestic product and force the government to raise tax rates to keep its budget balanced.

Discuss.

Did the study cover both legal and illegal immigrants, or is it as lopsided as I believe it is?

 

[bedowin62]

LOVE a left-wing loser with a file full of propaganda to post pre-thread!!

YAWN

Studies, not propaganda like the CIS.

because "studies" cant also be propaganda

you're a brainwashed idiot

Go ahead and debunk them. Don't post a story about a Mexican stealing hubcaps. Address the actual facts in the studies directly.

because Mexicans dont steal hyubcaps?

why do you want me to address YOUR item just because you're enough of an idiot, or an intellectual coward, to believe a "study" cant also be biased???

 

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This is a topic about immigrants and refugees, not just illegals.

Try again.

Read the links that have been provided and address them directly. If you can.

they are propaganda

again why do you want propaganda treated with respect?

 

[g5000]

LOVE a left-wing loser with a file full of propaganda to post pre-thread!!

YAWN

Studies, not propaganda like the CIS.

because "studies" cant also be propaganda

you're a brainwashed idiot

Go ahead and debunk them. Don't post a story about a Mexican stealing hubcaps. Address the actual facts in the studies directly.

because Mexicans dont steal hyubcaps?

why do you want me to address YOUR item just because you're enough of an idiot, or an intellectual coward, to believe a "study" cant also be biased???

We get you don't like Mexicans. We get it.

Address the facts in the links I have provided directly. Go ahead and unpack them. If you can.

 

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This is a topic about immigrants and refugees, not just illegals.

Try again.

Read the links that have been provided and address them directly. If you can.

they are propaganda

Demonstrate they are not true.

You have to falsify them to prove they are propaganda.

 

[g5000]

It is going to be fun watching bedowin trying to unpack four economists.