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mine is relevant; you only have a straw man.men don't complain or make excuses about full body massage with happy ending. especially for free, when he doesn't have much money. why do women, hesitate, at all.nice story, story teller. that is not what I am referring to.Of course it is equality. Both men & women are free to choose whether or not they have sex with someone.
Equality does not mean that just because men will fuck anything that women HAVE to fuck anything.
men pay money for sex. what do women do, that is Equal?
Some women pay money for sex. Both have the choice. Requiring that one must do what the other chooses to do is not equality.
You haven’t answered my question. I will answer your questions after you answer mine.
all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.dude; nothing but red herrings is a fallacy.you only have stories, not arguments. anyone can Talk; Men have arguments.No hypocrisy in my posts.
The hypocrisy is in your posts.
You make claims. That is all. Unless you can point out any hypocrisy in my posts, you are simply dodging the discussion.
You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.dude; nothing but red herrings is a fallacy.you only have stories, not arguments. anyone can Talk; Men have arguments.No hypocrisy in my posts.
The hypocrisy is in your posts.
You make claims. That is all. Unless you can point out any hypocrisy in my posts, you are simply dodging the discussion.
You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
In present times, is there a difference between a prostitute, pornstar and a normal woman?
I'm talking about the time from the 50s, is there? Normal women, the ones who you see and interact with in your normal day-to-day activities, have brought down men to a state, where men are respectful of women's sexual liberty, etc. Normal women have more than one sexual partner, whether you like it or not, they engage in these sexual relations for something in return, how is that different than prostitution? They also have their clips and pics taken in nude and while performing sexual activities with their previous sexual partners(which no doubt would be many), and these circulate among a group of people, or eventually find their way onto the Internet, so how does this make them any different than pornstars?
All this situation panders to only women's passive sexuality. Things were worse for men from the beginning, men never had any upper hand, from that time, if a woman were to want to have sex, all they had to do was put it out, and hundreds of men would line up to have sex with her, but similar situation didn't and doesn't exist for men, if a man were to want to have sex, he has to buy it or jump through hundreds of hoops.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
Guy, don't you have a Star Wars movie to go whine about.
Being born white and male in this country is still the E-ticket in America.
I'm not white and I've never set foot in America.
I write about it because I'm very badly affected by it.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
Only if one let's one's dick lead his life....
~S~
But is that the problem though? Boys are not given any opportunity to lead life which doesn't have a focus on active sexuality?
I'd say boys and girls are equally polluted by hormones anywhere one would find them on this rock CView
Thier motivations aren't always cultivated into target individuals
Most subscribe to nature
~S~
What you write about hormones maybe true, but girls aren't forced to engage in the activities which boys are forced to.
Young men learn at an early age, to control their natural desire to ravage women or the end up in prison. So, men have learned to control their natural desires because society demands it. Without this control, for which we get little credit, society would be a real mess.In present times, is there a difference between a prostitute, pornstar and a normal woman?
I'm talking about the time from the 50s, is there? Normal women, the ones who you see and interact with in your normal day-to-day activities, have brought down men to a state, where men are respectful of women's sexual liberty, etc. Normal women have more than one sexual partner, whether you like it or not, they engage in these sexual relations for something in return, how is that different than prostitution? They also have their clips and pics taken in nude and while performing sexual activities with their previous sexual partners(which no doubt would be many), and these circulate among a group of people, or eventually find their way onto the Internet, so how does this make them any different than pornstars?
All this situation panders to only women's passive sexuality. Things were worse for men from the beginning, men never had any upper hand, from that time, if a woman were to want to have sex, all they had to do was put it out, and hundreds of men would line up to have sex with her, but similar situation didn't and doesn't exist for men, if a man were to want to have sex, he has to buy it or jump through hundreds of hoops.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
only story tellers say that under Any form of Capitalism. I merely need, Gold.mine is relevant; you only have a straw man.men don't complain or make excuses about full body massage with happy ending. especially for free, when he doesn't have much money. why do women, hesitate, at all.nice story, story teller. that is not what I am referring to.
men pay money for sex. what do women do, that is Equal?
Some women pay money for sex. Both have the choice. Requiring that one must do what the other chooses to do is not equality.
You haven’t answered my question. I will answer your questions after you answer mine.
My question is quite relevant. Unless you are willing to give a full body massage and G-spot play to ANY WOMAN, you have no reasonable right to expect women to allow just any man to touch their body.
Equality is about what is REQUIRED. Not to what an individual chooses to do.
story tellers are fake news. you don't understand the concepts.all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.dude; nothing but red herrings is a fallacy.you only have stories, not arguments. anyone can Talk; Men have arguments.
You make claims. That is all. Unless you can point out any hypocrisy in my posts, you are simply dodging the discussion.
You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
LMAO!! Truly pathetic. It doesn’t matter if you care. But if you want to debate, you should (for the sake of honesty & integrity) be willing to do more than make baseless accusations. You are not. I don’t care. But I will not engage with you beyond ridiculing your pitiful notions of what “equality” means.
why do most women turn down a free full body massage?all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.dude; nothing but red herrings is a fallacy.you only have stories, not arguments. anyone can Talk; Men have arguments.
You make claims. That is all. Unless you can point out any hypocrisy in my posts, you are simply dodging the discussion.
You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
As for why you should care what I say or what I think, you should listen and learn.
You are begging ANY woman to let to touch them. And you complain you can’t find any nice girls except when you have money.
I, on the other hand, was a victim of downsizing when my girlfriend and I had only been dating a few months (and since I was working out of town, it was the equivalent of only dating a few weeks). She moved me in with her, and supported me until I got back on my feet. She is beautiful, witty, intelligent and hot. And since we are poly, I can see other women, and do. I have 2 women I see occasionally. One prefers to have me come over and enjoy the dinners she prepares. So I am not spending anything (other than bringing a bottle of wine).
As you can see from my pic, I am an average looking older guy. I am proof a guy can have ample female company without spending money. Rather than figure out what do right or what I know, you make baseless accusations and demand women do what men choose to do.
Keep trying that “free offer”. And let me know how that works out for you.
What a tiresome oration.In present times, is there a difference between a prostitute, pornstar and a normal woman?
I'm talking about the time from the 50s, is there? Normal women, the ones who you see and interact with in your normal day-to-day activities, have brought down men to a state, where men are respectful of women's sexual liberty, etc. Normal women have more than one sexual partner, whether you like it or not, they engage in these sexual relations for something in return, how is that different than prostitution? They also have their clips and pics taken in nude and while performing sexual activities with their previous sexual partners(which no doubt would be many), and these circulate among a group of people, or eventually find their way onto the Internet, so how does this make them any different than pornstars?
All this situation panders to only women's passive sexuality. Things were worse for men from the beginning, men never had any upper hand, from that time, if a woman were to want to have sex, all they had to do was put it out, and hundreds of men would line up to have sex with her, but similar situation didn't and doesn't exist for men, if a man were to want to have sex, he has to buy it or jump through hundreds of hoops.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
Most women I know engage in sexual relations for pleasure. Just like men do. Yes, most normal women have had more than one sexual partner. The days of men going out and getting laid and then demanding their wives be virgins has died away. And good riddance. To expect that men be allowed to play around and "sow their wild oats" while women sat at home knitting was simply stupid.
So they have pics and such of them having fun. So what? Most guys I have known who sweat that are the ones who simply don't want to be compared to other men. But they will always compare their women to the plastic Barbi types they see on tv.
If you want to have sex you don't have to buy it. And the only hoop you have to jump through is getting to know a woman who enjoys sex.
Are you telling us your wife is a battle-hardened skank and you are proud of this fact?
The sexual revolution was just a technique to use women and discard them when they became inconvenient.
how is this Only a male problem?Young men learn at an early age, to control their natural desire to ravage women or the end up in prison. So, men have learned to control their natural desires because society demands it. Without this control, for which we get little credit, society would be a real mess.In present times, is there a difference between a prostitute, pornstar and a normal woman?
I'm talking about the time from the 50s, is there? Normal women, the ones who you see and interact with in your normal day-to-day activities, have brought down men to a state, where men are respectful of women's sexual liberty, etc. Normal women have more than one sexual partner, whether you like it or not, they engage in these sexual relations for something in return, how is that different than prostitution? They also have their clips and pics taken in nude and while performing sexual activities with their previous sexual partners(which no doubt would be many), and these circulate among a group of people, or eventually find their way onto the Internet, so how does this make them any different than pornstars?
All this situation panders to only women's passive sexuality. Things were worse for men from the beginning, men never had any upper hand, from that time, if a woman were to want to have sex, all they had to do was put it out, and hundreds of men would line up to have sex with her, but similar situation didn't and doesn't exist for men, if a man were to want to have sex, he has to buy it or jump through hundreds of hoops.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
One could argue that a large part of what is wrong with Western society today is that we've started falling down on the job of teaching boys how to channel their masculinity in positive, rather than negative, directions.
why do most women turn down a free full body massage?all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.dude; nothing but red herrings is a fallacy.You make claims. That is all. Unless you can point out any hypocrisy in my posts, you are simply dodging the discussion.
You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
As for why you should care what I say or what I think, you should listen and learn.
You are begging ANY woman to let to touch them. And you complain you can’t find any nice girls except when you have money.
I, on the other hand, was a victim of downsizing when my girlfriend and I had only been dating a few months (and since I was working out of town, it was the equivalent of only dating a few weeks). She moved me in with her, and supported me until I got back on my feet. She is beautiful, witty, intelligent and hot. And since we are poly, I can see other women, and do. I have 2 women I see occasionally. One prefers to have me come over and enjoy the dinners she prepares. So I am not spending anything (other than bringing a bottle of wine).
As you can see from my pic, I am an average looking older guy. I am proof a guy can have ample female company without spending money. Rather than figure out what do right or what I know, you make baseless accusations and demand women do what men choose to do.
Keep trying that “free offer”. And let me know how that works out for you.
only for free when he doesn't have enough Gold; "practitioners of the abomination of hypocrisy, do that".why do most women turn down a free full body massage?all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.dude; nothing but red herrings is a fallacy.
You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
As for why you should care what I say or what I think, you should listen and learn.
You are begging ANY woman to let to touch them. And you complain you can’t find any nice girls except when you have money.
I, on the other hand, was a victim of downsizing when my girlfriend and I had only been dating a few months (and since I was working out of town, it was the equivalent of only dating a few weeks). She moved me in with her, and supported me until I got back on my feet. She is beautiful, witty, intelligent and hot. And since we are poly, I can see other women, and do. I have 2 women I see occasionally. One prefers to have me come over and enjoy the dinners she prepares. So I am not spending anything (other than bringing a bottle of wine).
As you can see from my pic, I am an average looking older guy. I am proof a guy can have ample female company without spending money. Rather than figure out what do right or what I know, you make baseless accusations and demand women do what men choose to do.
Keep trying that “free offer”. And let me know how that works out for you.
I would say they dislike the person making the offer.
She seems to be a night owl. Maybe we'll know tomorrow.I'd like an explanation of "toxic" according to that poster also.a society full of men who still want to be men, but an America full of men who can't act like men because their generation has told them this is "toxic".Both genders make sacrifices and deal with things that aren't fair.
What sacrifices is the female gender making and what unfair things are they dealing with?
How about this. Living with a society full of men who still want to be men, but an America full of men who can't act like men because their generation has told them this is "toxic". Being a man. "Toxic"
Living with a society full of men who are hobbled by addictions to porn. So they are unable to perform otherwise.
And a bunch of other stuff. We're in late-stage Rome territory now, no doubt about that.
What kind of things are you referring to as "toxic," SweetSue92 ?
only for free when he doesn't have enough Gold; "practitioners of the abomination of hypocrisy, do that".why do most women turn down a free full body massage?all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
As for why you should care what I say or what I think, you should listen and learn.
You are begging ANY woman to let to touch them. And you complain you can’t find any nice girls except when you have money.
I, on the other hand, was a victim of downsizing when my girlfriend and I had only been dating a few months (and since I was working out of town, it was the equivalent of only dating a few weeks). She moved me in with her, and supported me until I got back on my feet. She is beautiful, witty, intelligent and hot. And since we are poly, I can see other women, and do. I have 2 women I see occasionally. One prefers to have me come over and enjoy the dinners she prepares. So I am not spending anything (other than bringing a bottle of wine).
As you can see from my pic, I am an average looking older guy. I am proof a guy can have ample female company without spending money. Rather than figure out what do right or what I know, you make baseless accusations and demand women do what men choose to do.
Keep trying that “free offer”. And let me know how that works out for you.
I would say they dislike the person making the offer.
What a tiresome oration.In present times, is there a difference between a prostitute, pornstar and a normal woman?
I'm talking about the time from the 50s, is there? Normal women, the ones who you see and interact with in your normal day-to-day activities, have brought down men to a state, where men are respectful of women's sexual liberty, etc. Normal women have more than one sexual partner, whether you like it or not, they engage in these sexual relations for something in return, how is that different than prostitution? They also have their clips and pics taken in nude and while performing sexual activities with their previous sexual partners(which no doubt would be many), and these circulate among a group of people, or eventually find their way onto the Internet, so how does this make them any different than pornstars?
All this situation panders to only women's passive sexuality. Things were worse for men from the beginning, men never had any upper hand, from that time, if a woman were to want to have sex, all they had to do was put it out, and hundreds of men would line up to have sex with her, but similar situation didn't and doesn't exist for men, if a man were to want to have sex, he has to buy it or jump through hundreds of hoops.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
Most women I know engage in sexual relations for pleasure. Just like men do. Yes, most normal women have had more than one sexual partner. The days of men going out and getting laid and then demanding their wives be virgins has died away. And good riddance. To expect that men be allowed to play around and "sow their wild oats" while women sat at home knitting was simply stupid.
So they have pics and such of them having fun. So what? Most guys I have known who sweat that are the ones who simply don't want to be compared to other men. But they will always compare their women to the plastic Barbi types they see on tv.
If you want to have sex you don't have to buy it. And the only hoop you have to jump through is getting to know a woman who enjoys sex.
Are you telling us your wife (or sister or mom) is a battle-hardened skank and you are proud of this fact?
The sexual revolution was just a technique to use women and discard them when they became inconvenient.
MeToo: Women Rebel against the Sexual Revolution | National Review
And why haven’t you sought out a battle-hardened skank? Do you have something against sluts you bigot?What a tiresome oration.In present times, is there a difference between a prostitute, pornstar and a normal woman?
I'm talking about the time from the 50s, is there? Normal women, the ones who you see and interact with in your normal day-to-day activities, have brought down men to a state, where men are respectful of women's sexual liberty, etc. Normal women have more than one sexual partner, whether you like it or not, they engage in these sexual relations for something in return, how is that different than prostitution? They also have their clips and pics taken in nude and while performing sexual activities with their previous sexual partners(which no doubt would be many), and these circulate among a group of people, or eventually find their way onto the Internet, so how does this make them any different than pornstars?
All this situation panders to only women's passive sexuality. Things were worse for men from the beginning, men never had any upper hand, from that time, if a woman were to want to have sex, all they had to do was put it out, and hundreds of men would line up to have sex with her, but similar situation didn't and doesn't exist for men, if a man were to want to have sex, he has to buy it or jump through hundreds of hoops.
Isn't this a very wicked, evil and cruel situation?
Most women I know engage in sexual relations for pleasure. Just like men do. Yes, most normal women have had more than one sexual partner. The days of men going out and getting laid and then demanding their wives be virgins has died away. And good riddance. To expect that men be allowed to play around and "sow their wild oats" while women sat at home knitting was simply stupid.
So they have pics and such of them having fun. So what? Most guys I have known who sweat that are the ones who simply don't want to be compared to other men. But they will always compare their women to the plastic Barbi types they see on tv.
If you want to have sex you don't have to buy it. And the only hoop you have to jump through is getting to know a woman who enjoys sex.
Are you telling us your wife is a battle-hardened skank and you are proud of this fact?
The sexual revolution was just a technique to use women and discard them when they became inconvenient.
Nothing I said remotely resembles me claiming that my girlfriend is a “battle-hardened skank”. To the contrary, she is a delightful lady
So naive! The sexual revolution empowered rich cynical men who wanted to use women.As for the sexual revolution being a technique to use women and discard them, that is simply nonsense. The sexual revolution gave women the option to choose for themselves.
Both genders make sacrifices and deal with things that aren't fair.
What sacrifices is the female gender making and what unfair things are they dealing with?
only for free when he doesn't have enough Gold; "practitioners of the abomination of hypocrisy, do that".why do most women turn down a free full body massage?all of your arguments are biased and operate in a vacuum of special pleading. why should I care what you think.You made an accusation. I called you out and asked for one example. That is not a red herring. That is, as usual, you calling names instead of addressing posts. You have accused me of hypocrisy, and yet cannot offer a single example of it. That is childish and dishonest.
As for why you should care what I say or what I think, you should listen and learn.
You are begging ANY woman to let to touch them. And you complain you can’t find any nice girls except when you have money.
I, on the other hand, was a victim of downsizing when my girlfriend and I had only been dating a few months (and since I was working out of town, it was the equivalent of only dating a few weeks). She moved me in with her, and supported me until I got back on my feet. She is beautiful, witty, intelligent and hot. And since we are poly, I can see other women, and do. I have 2 women I see occasionally. One prefers to have me come over and enjoy the dinners she prepares. So I am not spending anything (other than bringing a bottle of wine).
As you can see from my pic, I am an average looking older guy. I am proof a guy can have ample female company without spending money. Rather than figure out what do right or what I know, you make baseless accusations and demand women do what men choose to do.
Keep trying that “free offer”. And let me know how that works out for you.
I would say they dislike the person making the offer.
