India:man drugs family, cuts their throats, still good though, no gun used.

[WildBillKelsoe]

One horrible incident in India does not equate with the multiple mass murders committed daily and weekly in this country involving guns. Those statistics do not lie. The President does not lie. He has not done enough to stop it.

There were 4 mass public shooting last year...totol number of dead...37.


hE wants to use a tiny problem ( 35,000 people were killed in car accidents) to take guns away from over normal people who own 356,991,876 million guns which they do not use in gum mirder....

and how do you explain that as more people carry guns in the U.S....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up....
Please explain the problem in light of the actual facts, the truth and the reality.....

We have a criminal problem....they commit almost all of the gun murder mainly against each other....

Normal gun owners are not the problem....but people like you focus entirely on them....people not committing crimes with guns....

Why is that?

I'll tell you why, because they don't a rat's ass how many people die. They don't want to own a gun, so they think no one should own a gun.

 

[OldLady]

One horrible incident in India does not equate with the multiple mass murders committed daily and weekly in this country involving guns. Those statistics do not lie. The President does not lie. He has not done enough to stop it.

'You can keep your doctor.'

'You can keep you insurance plan if you like it.'

'You will see insurance premiums go down by $2500 annually...'

You were saying?

I was talking about guns, not insurance. Sorry.

 

[Wilbur Right]

Between 1993 and 2000, the gun homicide rate dropped by nearly half, from 7.0 homicides to 3.8 homicides per 100,000 people. Since then, the gun homicide rate has remained relatively flat. From 2009 to 2014, the most recent year data are available, the number of gun homicides has hovered around 11,000 and 12,000 per year.






More guns than ever. Flat homicide rate. Why?

 

[OldLady]

One horrible incident in India does not equate with the multiple mass murders committed daily and weekly in this country involving guns. Those statistics do not lie. The President does not lie. He has not done enough to stop it.

There were 4 mass public shooting last year...totol number of dead...37.


hE wants to use a tiny problem ( 35,000 people were killed in car accidents) to take guns away from over normal people who own 356,991,876 million guns which they do not use in gum mirder....

and how do you explain that as more people carry guns in the U.S....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up....
Please explain the problem in light of the actual facts, the truth and the reality.....

We have a criminal problem....they commit almost all of the gun murder mainly against each other....

Normal gun owners are not the problem....but people like you focus entirely on them....people not committing crimes with guns....

Why is that?

We have a criminal problem....they commit almost all of the gun murder mainly against each other....
Not Ronald Hamilton, Cedric Ford, Jason Dalton...and that was just in this past week.

and how do you explain that as more people carry guns in the U.S....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up....
Because we began enforcing stricter laws against repeat offenders, etc. It has nothing to do with the number of people carrying a gun in their pocket.

Normal gun owners are not the problem....but people like you focus entirely on them....people not committing crimes with guns....
Why is that?
Because "normal" people go off the rails and kill innocent people. There is no way to predict it and no way to prevent it except to take the guns away.

 

[2aguy]

You can't stop all the crazies in the world by restricting guns, but you could cut the the suicide by gun and accidental shooting rates to almost zero by enacting First World gun control laws.

Your murder rates would be substantially reduced as well.

Do you support assisted suicide?

guns owned by Americans in 2013..... over 320,000,000

2013: number of accidental gun deaths..... 505

Do you see why you are wrong?



2013...suicide by gun....about 21,000

2013...sucide by non gun... 19,974....

Do you see why you are wrong....




Number of gun murders in 2014 according to FBI table 8: 8,124

Number of defensive gun uses according to bill clinton on barak obama....1,500,000

Do you see why you are wrong?



Number of guns in private hands...357,000,000

number of guns used to commit murder in 2014... less than 8,124

Who used those guns to commit gun murder.... 90% of murderers are violent criminals with long histories of crime and violence the majority of their victims are other career criminals.....

That means that Americans owned 356,991,876 million guns and did not use them to commit murder...

Do you see why you are wrong?


Cars accidentally killed 34-35,000 people in 2013.......... not one stat on guns comes close to that number....

Do you see why you are wrong?

 

[Rustic]

Whew.......this is good....a man murdered his wife, children and parents, but didn't use a gun........so...a win for gun grabbers everywhere......right?

14 people murdered and not one shot fired.......a good day for gun control....right?

From the news piece below...he used a butcher knife.......so...obviously.....we now need to enact knife control...at all levels.?....

I am thinking that no one needs metal knifes for cooking...plastic is just as good...right?


so we ban all metal knifes...only the police and military get them. We license any chefs who use knives, and we license all the remaining knives so if a crime or mass murder is committed witht them we can punish the original owner no matter if he is involved at all or not.......

did I cover all the right anti knife bases?

wE also need to ban sedatives of all kinds...especially NyQuil, and even Benadryl.........

Indian Knife Massacre: Only the US Has the Kind of Mass Murders That Embarrass President Obama - The Truth About Guns

“Hasnin Anwar Warekar drugged his wife, children and parents and then slit their throats at a party on Saturday evening before hanging himself, according to reports.” Fourteen of them in Thane, India. A mass murder by any definition. Only it didn’t happen. It simply couldn’t have. Because President Obama himself — the leader of the free world — has taken precious time away from the links to tell us just how unique we are in this. That mass killings don’t happen in other countries as they do here. Since other, more enlightened nations . . .

from the news story.....

Accountant 'drugs and slits throats of 14 members of his own family' at party

Neighbours heard Warekar's sister screaming for help some time after midnight, following a family gathering on Saturday evening.

Indian media have reported that Warekar either laced the evening meal with a sedative or waited until his family had gone to bed before bolting the doors of the house and beginning his assault.

Thane Police spokesperson Gajanan Laxman Kabdule told AFP news agency that investigators were awaiting forensic analysis to determine whether the victims had been drugged. He added that details of the attack were "still sketchy."

Ashutosh Dumbre, joint commissioner of Thane police, said: “Prima facie evidence suggests that the accused bolted all the doors of the house and murdered his family while they were asleep with a knife that we found near his body.”

If it isnt gun violence it's no violence at all according to the progressives and their little minds...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I'll tell you why, because they don't a rat's ass how many people die. They don't want to own a gun, so they think no one should own a gun.

Or, we own guns, and we're still tired of seeing people killed by them...

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

You can't stop all the crazies in the world by restricting guns, but you could cut the the suicide by gun and accidental shooting rates to almost zero by enacting First World gun control laws.

Your murder rates would be substantially reduced as well.

Do you support assisted suicide?

guns owned by Americans in 2013..... over 320,000,000

2013: number of accidental gun deaths..... 505

Do you see why you are wrong?



2013...suicide by gun....about 21,000

2013...sucide by non gun... 19,974....

Do you see why you are wrong....




Number of gun murders in 2014 according to FBI table 8: 8,124

Number of defensive gun uses according to bill clinton on barak obama....1,500,000

Do you see why you are wrong?

You misinterpreted my comment, because you and I are in agreement on the numbers.


Number of guns in private hands...357,000,000

number of guns used to commit murder in 2014... less than 8,124

Who used those guns to commit gun murder.... 90% of murderers are violent criminals with long histories of crime and violence the majority of their victims are other career criminals.....

That means that Americans owned 356,991,876 million guns and did not use them to commit murder...

Do you see why you are wrong?


Cars accidentally killed 34-35,000 people in 2013.......... not one stat on guns comes close to that number....

Do you see why you are wrong?

 

[2aguy]

One horrible incident in India does not equate with the multiple mass murders committed daily and weekly in this country involving guns. Those statistics do not lie. The President does not lie. He has not done enough to stop it.

There were 4 mass public shooting last year...totol number of dead...37.


hE wants to use a tiny problem ( 35,000 people were killed in car accidents) to take guns away from over normal people who own 356,991,876 million guns which they do not use in gum mirder....

and how do you explain that as more people carry guns in the U.S....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up....
Please explain the problem in light of the actual facts, the truth and the reality.....

We have a criminal problem....they commit almost all of the gun murder mainly against each other....

Normal gun owners are not the problem....but people like you focus entirely on them....people not committing crimes with guns....

Why is that?

We have a criminal problem....they commit almost all of the gun murder mainly against each other....
Not Ronald Hamilton, Cedric Ford, Jason Dalton...and that was just in this past week.

and how do you explain that as more people carry guns in the U.S....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up....
Because we began enforcing stricter laws against repeat offenders, etc. It has nothing to do with the number of people carrying a gun in their pocket.

Normal gun owners are not the problem....but people like you focus entirely on them....people not committing crimes with guns....
Why is that?
Because "normal" people go off the rails and kill innocent people. There is no way to predict it and no way to prevent it except to take the guns away.

You don't see how wrong you are...mass public shooters in 2015 killed 37 people...

in 2014 there were 8,124...so mass public shootings are not the problem....and if you subtract these three guys you named that still puts 356,991,873 million guns in private hands that were used responsibly and were not used to commit murder...

So no...normal gun owners are not the problem....

We are not enforcing stricter gun laws.....in fact felons caught with guns are released all the time........and according to you...more people with more guns is supposed to equal more gun crime...right? That is you whole argument so far....and the numbers show you are wrong......

More Americans, 13 million Americans carry guns for self defense and our gun murder rate went down, not up.....that is a fact.

Normal gun owners are not the problem....but people like you focus entirely on them....people not committing crimes with guns....
Why is that?
Because "normal" people go off the rails and kill innocent people. There is no way to predict it and no way to prevent it except to take the guns away

Wrong......I have shown you the stats on who actually commits murder.....90% of them have prior criminal records with violent histories as well.......so no, normal people do not go off the rails and shoot people....

You are wrong...and showing what you really think....you fear normal people....you, like all anti gunners see all people as sociopaths, barely controlled and about to murder who just need a gun to send them off....

And you are wrong...you have a phobia of people....and it clouds your ability to see the truth, the facts and the reality of guns...

357,000,000 guns in private hands...how many people were killed by nuts...... 37


We do not have a problem with normal people owning guns.....you have a phobia about people and guns.....get help.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If it isnt gun violence it's no violence at all according to the progressives and their little minds...

All violence is bad, gun violence even moreso...

 

[2aguy]

Between 1993 and 2000, the gun homicide rate dropped by nearly half, from 7.0 homicides to 3.8 homicides per 100,000 people. Since then, the gun homicide rate has remained relatively flat. From 2009 to 2014, the most recent year data are available, the number of gun homicides has hovered around 11,000 and 12,000 per year.






More guns than ever. Flat homicide rate. Why?

Yeah...let's see those stats and a link.......

According to FBI Table 8...which I have linked to repeatedly, our gun murder rate has gone down as more people, 13 million people now carry guns.........

 

[2aguy]

Between 1993 and 2000, the gun homicide rate dropped by nearly half, from 7.0 homicides to 3.8 homicides per 100,000 people. Since then, the gun homicide rate has remained relatively flat. From 2009 to 2014, the most recent year data are available, the number of gun homicides has hovered around 11,000 and 12,000 per year.






More guns than ever. Flat homicide rate. Why?

Yeah...and I just linked to it before your very post...


Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports - 2000

gun murder rate 1997 -2000


1997..... 10,729
1998..... 9,257
1999..... 8,480
2000..... 8,493
2001..... 8,719
2002... 9,369
2003.... 9,638
2004..... 9,385
2005.... 10,158
2006.... 10,225
2007 10,129
2008-- 9,528
2009-- 9,199
2010- 8,874
2011-- 8,653
2012-- 8,897
2013-- 8,454
2014-- 8,124

 

[Rustic]

Guns can't kill people...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Guns can't kill people...

We wouldn't have invented them otherwise. That was the whole point...

 

[2aguy]

If it isnt gun violence it's no violence at all according to the progressives and their little minds...

All violence is bad, gun violence even moreso...

That is just nutty........what makes gun death more important than knife death twit? Since more people are killed by knives than by rifles......so therefore according to you we need a knife ban.....

 

[2aguy]

Guns can't kill people...

We wouldn't have invented them otherwise. That was the whole point...

Nope the whole point was to find a way to keep people alive....guns do that.

 

[Rustic]

Guns can't kill people...

We wouldn't have invented them otherwise. That was the whole point...

Last I looked a gun can kill no one without a person behind it...

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

I'll tell you why, because they don't a rat's ass how many people die. They don't want to own a gun, so they think no one should own a gun.

Or, we own guns, and we're still tired of seeing people killed by them...

Do you own a car? Do you have drain cleaner in your home? Electricity? What about a bath tub? A swimming pool? 10 people per day for of drowning in The United States.

No, it doesn't have jack shit to do with saving lives. It's nothing more than Liberals forcing their beliefs on the rest of us.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Guns can't kill people...

We wouldn't have invented them otherwise. That was the whole point...

Nope the whole point was to find a way to keep people alive....guns do that.

Nope. Guns were invented as a weapon of war. Even the NRA doesn't try and deny that so give it up.

 

[Rustic]

It's a control thing, they know they can't control the individual without controlling firearms.