SavannahMann
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I don’t believe in Rights. Definitely not for criminals.
The Constitution does. In fact. About half of the Bill of Rights covers courts and rights of the accused.
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I don’t believe in Rights. Definitely not for criminals.
They were shot by people with GUNS. Can we even make an attempt to keep the GUNS out of the wrong hands? Reform the judicial system?Police reform? By early 2022 there was a 43% increase of Police Officers who were shot by felonious criminals. If a segment of society needs to be reformed it might be the judicial system.
Can we even make an attempt to keep the GUNS out of the wrong hands? Reform the judicial system?
The US Constitution ceased to be a meaningful document when Abraham Lincoln used it for proverbial toilet paper in 1861.The Constitution does. In fact. About half of the Bill of Rights covers courts and rights of the accused
To you, clearly.The US Constitution ceased to be a meaningful document when Abraham Lincoln used it for proverbial toilet paper in 1861.
Money.You claimed Jeff Bezos has more rights than the rest of us. In particular, you said he "can get away with murder*. Why?
No - you claimed he could get away with murder. Do you have any evidence of that? Or is this just he usual socialist envy screed?Money.
This isn’t hard.
Yeah. The rich always get a different level of justice.No - you claimed he could get away with murder. Do you have any evidence of that? Or is this just he usual socialist envy screed?
They're not dictating anything. They're just offering insurance coverage. Take it or leave it.
No, it's not. At all.Bullshit. It's almost bribery. Do things our way and you get a discount on your insurance. Do things your way and it's more expensive That's not dictating?
Most of these mega leftist cities all have fake radical leftist judgesNot sure what judges have to do with keeping guns out of the wrong hands. Judges hear cases, legislators pass laws.
No, it's not. At all.
This view is the source of so much ill-conceived government regulation. If a company refuses to do what you want, they're not forcing anything on anyone. You (and in this case the municipalities looking for insurance for their police departments) don't have to do business with them. People really need to learn this.
Tell me, do you think the government should dictate terms to the insurance company instead? Does the insurance company have a right to say "no"?
I'm not really seeing why it's "immoral", but to be clear, you're not saying they should be forced to insure the cops, right?It's not about rights, it's about insurance companies dictating by cost. Perfectly legal but also immoral because it gives them the ability to control police protocol since everybody opts for lower costs, More officers killed? Who cares, as long as you do things our way, you'll get cheaper rates.
Bullshit. It's almost bribery. Do things our way and you get a discount on your insurance. Do things your way and it's more expensive That's not dictating?
Insurance rates are based upon risk for the rest of us. If you have a lot of accidents. Your insurance rates go up. If you get speeding tickets. Your insurance goes up.
A DUI will see your insurance skyrocket.
If you own a company and have a lot of accidents. Your business insurance will go up won’t it? The insurance company may require you to make some changes to continue the coverage.
Risk assessment is the reality we all face. And somehow this is unfair when applied to the police.
True but this is more like risk transfer. Transfer the risk from the bad guy to the good guy which will result in more dead or seriously injured police officers.
For one your link is a paywall, two, I don't buy into conspiracy theories.
Right now cities across the country are having a hard time recruiting new police officers. The one time most desired job in the country is now the least desired job. I know, my city has been looking for new officers for the past year, and have few applicants. But it's happening all across the country. Satan is winning the war now.
Violent crimes on the rise in 2022, following previous unprecedented spike in murders
Data from major cities such as Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, Philadelphia, Seattle and Washington, D.C, show there has been an increase in violent crimes this year compared to 2021.www.foxnews.com
A Violent Crisis (Published 2022)
The Brooklyn shooting and other headline-making violence are part of a broader trend.www.nytimes.com
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
Veteran officers are taking early retirement while those still working are leaving the profession or heading away from the big cities. As liberal law makers write policies that favor the criminal at the disadvantage of our police officers, they finally say to hell with it and give up. In San Francisco shoplifting is a misdemeanor unless the criminal steals more than $1000,00 of merchandise. The police won't even come out in many cases. It's so bad that all the Walgreen's closed up in the area because again, when you invite crime to your city, you're going to have more crime.
Police Officers Calling It Quits, Retiring Early at Alarming Rate
Police officers across the nation are turning in their badges at an alarming rate.www.nbcbayarea.com
Cedar-Riverside residents say they feel the effects of MPD officer shortage - MinnPost
Residents say people openly sell and use drugs, lamenting that when they call in the criminal activity, the dealers are gone by the time the officers arrive.www.minnpost.com
Police face rise in crime amid shortage of officers
Police forces struggle to recruit and keep officers.spectrumlocalnews.com
No - you claimed he could get away with murder. Do you have any evidence of that? Or is this just he usual socialist envy screed?
We're talking about Constitutional rights. The claim was made that rich people have more rights than the rest of us. That isn't true. They may be corrupt. They might commit crimes and not get caught. But the have the same rights under the law as the rest of us.Let's use Bill Gates instead. His name is all over Epsteins flight logs. Many others with money are also. What is being done about that?
Nothing.
We're talking about Constitutional rights. The claim was made that rich people have more rights than the rest of us. That isn't true. They may be corrupt. They might commit crimes and not get caught. But the have the same rights under the law as the rest of us.
It's the typical confusion between equal rights and equal outcomes (or I think "social equity" is the latest buzzword). We need to understand that they are contradictory goals. If we have equal rights, we will have unequal outcomes. And, to the extent that we try to equalize outcomes, we will sacrifice equal rights.