Is Biden really that stronger of a candidate for president than hildebeast?

[Harpy Eagle]

If Republicans only complaint about Biden is that he is a pervert

Might work if they ran Pence but it is laughable when you are running Donald J Trump

Actually, it's kind of brilliant. Takes Trump's peccadillos of the table and leaves economic accomplishment.

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

 

[rightwinger]

If Republicans only complaint about Biden is that he is a pervert

Might work if they ran Pence but it is laughable when you are running Donald J Trump

Actually, it's kind of brilliant. Takes Trump's peccadillos of the table and leaves economic accomplishment.

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Very true

Fucking porn stars while your wife is caring for your newborn son is great Republican values

 

[rightwinger]

That's because that isn't the real agenda. Those are the cummative ones from all the Candidates. Not all support every one. Biden doesn't talk about them because I doubt he supports many of them. And most of those are blown out of proportion by you rightwingnutjobs. Yes, something was said out them but not to that degree. Get a grip. Step slowly away from the Rush and Hannity hour, go for a walk, breath in the fresh air and enjoy the great outdoors.

True, it is a compilation of many candidate's positions. I have not heard anyone object to any of them. They only say "we can have that conversation", total dodge. We need to know who supports which policies. Which are supported by Joe Biden? That's a fair question. be advised that dem primary voters will vote based on these policies. Ignore any of them at your candidate's peril.

I discount MOST of them. Most are insane. I even see a problem with States Rights with a few of them. I do know that a couple or three of the Candidates do support all of them (just not worded quite like that) but in the end, they haven't got a chance in hell. There isn't a chance in hell we can allow them into office. For one, we can't afford to pay for it all. This is why I stand by Biden. He's not taking about much of this because he shouldn't. Most of it is just insane and should be ignored. There are some key points but you would have to word it different instead of the Rush and Hannity Hour wording like above for me to comment on.

Ok, I'll start with one policy that Biden said he approves, Medicare for all, "healthcare is a right". That's enough for me to oppose Biden. I paid for my Medicare coverage all my working life. I do not want everyone on it. The doctors said that system won't work, i.e. its unworkable. I'm sure Biden will agree with a few other crazy progressive policies, but throwing 180m families off their workplace healthcare plans is not going to work.

List a few more of those policies that you agree with.

Good start. I am on the other side of this, we both should be aware. And I am affected the least of it. I am covered by Medicare (133 bucks a month is taken out) and Tricare (with a 175 buck deduction). There are problems in that that I won't go into at this time so we just cover Medicare for all.

Here is a program that makes sense and many states use it. Instead of relying on Emergency rooms for health prevention for the poor like we have now, set up free health clinics so the poor, or anyone else, can get preventive medical help. Ever watch the TV show "Becker"? The problem we have right now in the free clinics is, the donations aren't what they used to be and many have closed down. So, instead of using a clinic, the poor wait until it becomes a life threatening situation and head for the far more expensive Emergency room. You and I end up paying for that emergency room visit that could have been taken care of much sooner in a cheaper clinic.

Now, let's look at a serious medical procedure. Let's say it's going to cost 250,000 bucks. Where is someone that works for 15 bucks an hour going to get that kind of money. They can't even afford health insurance as it is. So they still get the procedures done and get hit with the bill. Everything they own doesn't even come close to a down payment of the 250K. So what do they do? They default. Who ends up paying for it? We do anyway. The other option is, and many take this option, they go home and die.

You can play around with the numbers and figures all you wish but in the end, we are already paying for those medical procedures. We just need to make it official. But who should be in charge of it? How about a Civilian Panel made up of Doctors and Financial wizards that are volunteers. Yes, the Government collects the funds but the funds end up going to a civilian ran system. And we kick the HMOs and Insurance Companies to the curbs since this is a zero sum venture.

There are many problems with "Medicare for All". One of the biggest is the $32T price tag. Taxes would go up, even for those on Medicare, and doctors and hospitals would get paid less. The problem is that the medical resources would be asked to cover many more people for much less money. Drug costs would bankrupt the system in very short order. We saw the disastrous rollout of Obamacare, can you imagine if government ran ALL of the Healthcare system?? No thanks. It would soon devolve into a political perk, a waiting list, unless you have political connections. I much prefer the system where you get what you pay for, like it was before Obamacare and the $10,000 deductibles plus the premiums. The more pols fuck with healthcare the worse it gets.
Bernie Sanders' 'Medicare For All' Would Cost $32.6 Trillion, And It Gets Worse From There

What other democrat initiatives does Biden support?

$32 trillion is taken from what we currently pay for private insurance and deductibles

 

[kyzr]

Actually, it's kind of brilliant. Takes Trump's peccadillos of the table and leaves economic accomplishment.

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

 

[kyzr]

Actually, it's kind of brilliant. Takes Trump's peccadillos of the table and leaves economic accomplishment.

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Very true

Fucking porn stars while your wife is caring for your newborn son is great Republican values

How does fucking porn stars compare to infanticide?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

Damn, if only a person could be both against abortion and not an adulterer....oh wait...a lot of people, just not your savior in the White House.

He is not even really against abortion, that only changed when he choose to run as a Repub

 

[LeftofLeft]

She’s more corrupt, but he’s dumber. The one thing he has going for him is he’s considered moderate next to the rest of the democrat field, but he’s going to have to pander to the wacky progressive democrat base to become the nominee. Plus he has his share of Skeltons in his closet. I believe Trump beats him like a drum.

He is stronger and he can beat Trump. He’s a typical white man that gropes women and finds it fascinating to find a Black candidate for President that is ‘clean and articulate’ at storybook levels. He is the Democrats’ best hope.... one could say, a great white hope.

 

[rightwinger]

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

How many bimbos has playboy Trump banged up in his lifetime ?

Bet he had an abortionist on retainer

 

[rightwinger]

She’s more corrupt, but he’s dumber. The one thing he has going for him is he’s considered moderate next to the rest of the democrat field, but he’s going to have to pander to the wacky progressive democrat base to become the nominee. Plus he has his share of Skeltons in his closet. I believe Trump beats him like a drum.

He is stronger and he can beat Trump. He’s a typical white man that gropes women and finds it fascinating to find a Black candidate for President that is ‘clean and articulate’ at storybook levels. He is the Democrats’ best hope.... one could say, a great white hope.

Corey Booker as his VP

 

[kyzr]

True, it is a compilation of many candidate's positions. I have not heard anyone object to any of them. They only say "we can have that conversation", total dodge. We need to know who supports which policies. Which are supported by Joe Biden? That's a fair question. be advised that dem primary voters will vote based on these policies. Ignore any of them at your candidate's peril.

I discount MOST of them. Most are insane. I even see a problem with States Rights with a few of them. I do know that a couple or three of the Candidates do support all of them (just not worded quite like that) but in the end, they haven't got a chance in hell. There isn't a chance in hell we can allow them into office. For one, we can't afford to pay for it all. This is why I stand by Biden. He's not taking about much of this because he shouldn't. Most of it is just insane and should be ignored. There are some key points but you would have to word it different instead of the Rush and Hannity Hour wording like above for me to comment on.

Ok, I'll start with one policy that Biden said he approves, Medicare for all, "healthcare is a right". That's enough for me to oppose Biden. I paid for my Medicare coverage all my working life. I do not want everyone on it. The doctors said that system won't work, i.e. its unworkable. I'm sure Biden will agree with a few other crazy progressive policies, but throwing 180m families off their workplace healthcare plans is not going to work.

List a few more of those policies that you agree with.

Good start. I am on the other side of this, we both should be aware. And I am affected the least of it. I am covered by Medicare (133 bucks a month is taken out) and Tricare (with a 175 buck deduction). There are problems in that that I won't go into at this time so we just cover Medicare for all.

Here is a program that makes sense and many states use it. Instead of relying on Emergency rooms for health prevention for the poor like we have now, set up free health clinics so the poor, or anyone else, can get preventive medical help. Ever watch the TV show "Becker"? The problem we have right now in the free clinics is, the donations aren't what they used to be and many have closed down. So, instead of using a clinic, the poor wait until it becomes a life threatening situation and head for the far more expensive Emergency room. You and I end up paying for that emergency room visit that could have been taken care of much sooner in a cheaper clinic.

Now, let's look at a serious medical procedure. Let's say it's going to cost 250,000 bucks. Where is someone that works for 15 bucks an hour going to get that kind of money. They can't even afford health insurance as it is. So they still get the procedures done and get hit with the bill. Everything they own doesn't even come close to a down payment of the 250K. So what do they do? They default. Who ends up paying for it? We do anyway. The other option is, and many take this option, they go home and die.

You can play around with the numbers and figures all you wish but in the end, we are already paying for those medical procedures. We just need to make it official. But who should be in charge of it? How about a Civilian Panel made up of Doctors and Financial wizards that are volunteers. Yes, the Government collects the funds but the funds end up going to a civilian ran system. And we kick the HMOs and Insurance Companies to the curbs since this is a zero sum venture.

There are many problems with "Medicare for All". One of the biggest is the $32T price tag. Taxes would go up, even for those on Medicare, and doctors and hospitals would get paid less. The problem is that the medical resources would be asked to cover many more people for much less money. Drug costs would bankrupt the system in very short order. We saw the disastrous rollout of Obamacare, can you imagine if government ran ALL of the Healthcare system?? No thanks. It would soon devolve into a political perk, a waiting list, unless you have political connections. I much prefer the system where you get what you pay for, like it was before Obamacare and the $10,000 deductibles plus the premiums. The more pols fuck with healthcare the worse it gets.
Bernie Sanders' 'Medicare For All' Would Cost $32.6 Trillion, And It Gets Worse From There

What other democrat initiatives does Biden support?

$32 trillion is taken from what we currently pay for private insurance and deductibles

The US spends about $3.5T a year for healthcare. (Call it $32T over 10-years)
Historical - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
The total US budget for 2019 is $4.04T. The US collected $3T in revenue, so we already have a $1T Budget Deficit. You want to DOUBLE the size of the Federal Budget and manage the entire US healthcare system? That's not just crazy, its stupid. Do you remember when Obamacare was rolled out and it was a disaster? The Federal government has enough on its plate already. If the US voters are dumb enough to put the dems in to do single payer healthcare they deserve what they get.
What about the $325b in pharmaceuticals annually? Do we get free drugs too?
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20180726.670593/full/

 

[LeftofLeft]

She’s more corrupt, but he’s dumber. The one thing he has going for him is he’s considered moderate next to the rest of the democrat field, but he’s going to have to pander to the wacky progressive democrat base to become the nominee. Plus he has his share of Skeltons in his closet. I believe Trump beats him like a drum.

He is stronger and he can beat Trump. He’s a typical white man that gropes women and finds it fascinating to find a Black candidate for President that is ‘clean and articulate’ at storybook levels. He is the Democrats’ best hope.... one could say, a great white hope.

Corey Booker as his VP

Kamala Harris

 

[kyzr]

I'll take that bet on family values. The dems can have their infanticide plank and Trump will choose pro-life. The dems and Cuomo and Gosnell, doing God's work.
Values also work in VA where 2 women accused Justin Fairfax and he is still there, so the dems only use issues for double standards. Not even talking about the VA governor's admitted black face racism.
The list of values issues is long, and the dems don't have anything to brag about regarding family values.

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

How many bimbos has playboy Trump banged up in his lifetime ?

Bet he had an abortionist on retainer

I bet you have no clue what you're babbling about.
Whose side are the Evangelicals on, Trump's or the dems? QED.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

How many bimbos has playboy Trump banged up in his lifetime ?

Bet he had an abortionist on retainer

I bet you have no clue what you're babbling about.
Whose side are the Evangelicals on, Trump's or the dems? QED.

Evangelicals have sold their soul to the GOP many decades ago.

 

[kyzr]

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

How many bimbos has playboy Trump banged up in his lifetime ?

Bet he had an abortionist on retainer

I bet you have no clue what you're babbling about.
Whose side are the Evangelicals on, Trump's or the dems? QED.

Evangelicals have sold their soul to the GOP many decades ago.

Whose party supports infanticide (dems), and whose party opposes it (GOP/Evans)? QED
The dems don't have souls, they lost their souls and are hollow shells.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump's family values...

View attachment 258730

But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

How many bimbos has playboy Trump banged up in his lifetime ?

Bet he had an abortionist on retainer

I bet you have no clue what you're babbling about.
Whose side are the Evangelicals on, Trump's or the dems? QED.

Evangelicals have sold their soul to the GOP many decades ago.

Whose party supports infanticide (dems), and whose party opposes it (GOP/Evans)? QED
The dems don't have souls, they lost their souls and are hollow shells.

The GOP does not give a shit about abortion, the last thing they want and the worst thing that could ever happen to them as a party is for the abortion debate to be solved.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

That's because that isn't the real agenda. Those are the cummative ones from all the Candidates. Not all support every one. Biden doesn't talk about them because I doubt he supports many of them. And most of those are blown out of proportion by you rightwingnutjobs. Yes, something was said out them but not to that degree. Get a grip. Step slowly away from the Rush and Hannity hour, go for a walk, breath in the fresh air and enjoy the great outdoors.

True, it is a compilation of many candidate's positions. I have not heard anyone object to any of them. They only say "we can have that conversation", total dodge. We need to know who supports which policies. Which are supported by Joe Biden? That's a fair question. be advised that dem primary voters will vote based on these policies. Ignore any of them at your candidate's peril.

I discount MOST of them. Most are insane. I even see a problem with States Rights with a few of them. I do know that a couple or three of the Candidates do support all of them (just not worded quite like that) but in the end, they haven't got a chance in hell. There isn't a chance in hell we can allow them into office. For one, we can't afford to pay for it all. This is why I stand by Biden. He's not taking about much of this because he shouldn't. Most of it is just insane and should be ignored. There are some key points but you would have to word it different instead of the Rush and Hannity Hour wording like above for me to comment on.

Ok, I'll start with one policy that Biden said he approves, Medicare for all, "healthcare is a right". That's enough for me to oppose Biden. I paid for my Medicare coverage all my working life. I do not want everyone on it. The doctors said that system won't work, i.e. its unworkable. I'm sure Biden will agree with a few other crazy progressive policies, but throwing 180m families off their workplace healthcare plans is not going to work.

List a few more of those policies that you agree with.

Good start. I am on the other side of this, we both should be aware. And I am affected the least of it. I am covered by Medicare (133 bucks a month is taken out) and Tricare (with a 175 buck deduction). There are problems in that that I won't go into at this time so we just cover Medicare for all.

Here is a program that makes sense and many states use it. Instead of relying on Emergency rooms for health prevention for the poor like we have now, set up free health clinics so the poor, or anyone else, can get preventive medical help. Ever watch the TV show "Becker"? The problem we have right now in the free clinics is, the donations aren't what they used to be and many have closed down. So, instead of using a clinic, the poor wait until it becomes a life threatening situation and head for the far more expensive Emergency room. You and I end up paying for that emergency room visit that could have been taken care of much sooner in a cheaper clinic.

Now, let's look at a serious medical procedure. Let's say it's going to cost 250,000 bucks. Where is someone that works for 15 bucks an hour going to get that kind of money. They can't even afford health insurance as it is. So they still get the procedures done and get hit with the bill. Everything they own doesn't even come close to a down payment of the 250K. So what do they do? They default. Who ends up paying for it? We do anyway. The other option is, and many take this option, they go home and die.

You can play around with the numbers and figures all you wish but in the end, we are already paying for those medical procedures. We just need to make it official. But who should be in charge of it? How about a Civilian Panel made up of Doctors and Financial wizards that are volunteers. Yes, the Government collects the funds but the funds end up going to a civilian ran system. And we kick the HMOs and Insurance Companies to the curbs since this is a zero sum venture.

There are many problems with "Medicare for All". One of the biggest is the $32T price tag. Taxes would go up, even for those on Medicare, and doctors and hospitals would get paid less. The problem is that the medical resources would be asked to cover many more people for much less money. Drug costs would bankrupt the system in very short order. We saw the disastrous rollout of Obamacare, can you imagine if government ran ALL of the Healthcare system?? No thanks. It would soon devolve into a political perk, a waiting list, unless you have political connections. I much prefer the system where you get what you pay for, like it was before Obamacare and the $10,000 deductibles plus the premiums. The more pols fuck with healthcare the worse it gets.
Bernie Sanders' 'Medicare For All' Would Cost $32.6 Trillion, And It Gets Worse From There

What other democrat initiatives does Biden support?

This is if you let the Government have sole administration of it. What would happen if the donations that go into the various programs also go into the system. What would happen if the drug companies were all of a sudden having to justify their outlandish costs. For instance, the medicine for Diabeties was invented and then donated to public domain. There is zero RandD costs for it. Yet the price is outlandish. Same goes for a lot of other life giving drugs. Take a good look at the VA medicine program who pays a fraction of the cost for medicines for us under that program. I don't mind taking generics as long as they work as well as the name brand. And even the name brand is a lot cheaper. Allow medicare to bulk buy and negotiate the price.

There are a lot of things that the current system you are so proud of just rips us all off. You want to explain to me why an aspirin in a hospital costs 1500 bucks? The reason? Easy, the insurance companies will pay it. Just like auto repairs on insurance claims. Anytime you have insurance involved, the price skyrockets. The best thing we can do is have a system where the insurance companies are told to go pound sand. But the problem is, the Pharmaceuticals and Insurance Companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year purchasing our Politicians so they can keep right on gouging the public. I had an accident that was my fault in my car that made a tiny scratch about 1 inch long in the other cars paint. I could have fixed that myself in about 15 minutes for the cost of about 20 bucks. But the place that "Fixed" it billed the insurance company over 3000 bucks. For the next 3 years, my rates go up about 50 bucks a month. That's not insurance, it ends up being a friggin loan to a loan shark.

The system is broke, real broke. You tell me how we are going to fix it and keep the insurance and pharmaceutical companies like they are? There is a reason why we have the most expensive health care in the world.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The key question for Joe Biden is:
What's better, being an old white union guy, or a minority/female/progressive?
Which has the better shot at the dem nomination?
Stay tuned....the dem nomination fight should be a better battle than the general election against Trump.

I saw his speech in Pittsburgh today on CNN, not bad, but a throwback to the old union glory days. Greedy management abuses the working class. But not how he'd fix it...
He didn't talk about the dem's new agenda items, like these show stoppers:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie

That's because that isn't the real agenda. Those are the cummative ones from all the Candidates. Not all support every one. Biden doesn't talk about them because I doubt he supports many of them. And most of those are blown out of proportion by you rightwingnutjobs. Yes, something was said out them but not to that degree. Get a grip. Step slowly away from the Rush and Hannity hour, go for a walk, breath in the fresh air and enjoy the great outdoors.

True, it is a compilation of many candidate's positions. I have not heard anyone object to any of them. They only say "we can have that conversation", total dodge. We need to know who supports which policies. Which are supported by Joe Biden? That's a fair question. be advised that dem primary voters will vote based on these policies. Ignore any of them at your candidate's peril.

I discount MOST of them. Most are insane. I even see a problem with States Rights with a few of them. I do know that a couple or three of the Candidates do support all of them (just not worded quite like that) but in the end, they haven't got a chance in hell. There isn't a chance in hell we can allow them into office. For one, we can't afford to pay for it all. This is why I stand by Biden. He's not taking about much of this because he shouldn't. Most of it is just insane and should be ignored. There are some key points but you would have to word it different instead of the Rush and Hannity Hour wording like above for me to comment on.

Ok, I'll start with one policy that Biden said he approves, Medicare for all, "healthcare is a right". That's enough for me to oppose Biden. I paid for my Medicare coverage all my working life. I do not want everyone on it. The doctors said that system won't work, i.e. its unworkable. I'm sure Biden will agree with a few other crazy progressive policies, but throwing 180m families off their workplace healthcare plans is not going to work.

List a few more of those policies that you agree with.

Biden claims Obamacare is a big fucking deal
He was right

If it were actually finished. It never was. You either do it all the way or not at all. And to do it not at all, you had damned will better have something else already put together. Now the Right promises that they will have their plan finished sometime after 2020 as long as they keep the Senate, Trump wins and they get the House back. They said the same thing for 2016 and they are no closer today than they were 4 years ago. Sorry GOP that ship has sailed.

 

[hadit]

If Republicans only complaint about Biden is that he is a pervert

Might work if they ran Pence but it is laughable when you are running Donald J Trump

Actually, it's kind of brilliant. Takes Trump's peccadillos of the table and leaves economic accomplishment.

If Trump wants to debate Biden on family values, I’m sure Biden will welcome the chance

He won't have to, that's the point.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Trump and family values?
Wash your mouth out

How many women did Trump pay to get abortions before he adopted conservative hypocrisy on abortion

Trump was an un constrained playboy...you think he never banged anyone up?

President Trump is on the right side of family values.
The dems and their infanticide policy are on the wrong side.

Trump's family values...

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But we all know how much Trump values families, he values them so much he has had 3 of them.

How does enjoying beautiful women compare to infanticide as far as values are concerned?

How many bimbos has playboy Trump banged up in his lifetime ?

Bet he had an abortionist on retainer

I bet you have no clue what you're babbling about.
Whose side are the Evangelicals on, Trump's or the dems? QED.

They are on Pence's side.

 

[Indeependent]

I am so confident Biden will win that all the Liberals here can stop explaining to themselves over and over how Biden is a shoe-in.