Is the GOP intentionally preventing a recovery?

Some people are saying no, see the 'argument' against, here:

Schumer's conspiracy theory: GOP sabotaging recovery | David Freddoso | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

The evidence suggests Schumer's on to something. The House of Representatives has offered no debate on the issue of unemployment and has passed only 18 bills since taking control in January. 15 of those bills were passed to name federal buildings after someone. This do-nothing congress sees no urgency as millions of Americans are out of work, work one or two or three part time jobs simply to pay rent or the morgage on a home underwater.

The GOP leadership in both houses of congress has opposed all efforts by the president, and even turned down an offer by President Obama to reduce the payroll tax for businees. It seems ideology is only an excuse, the real reason is their lust for power.



Of course they are.

The GOP hates Obama. They hate liberals. In fact, they hate America. They hate the middle class and poor people. Heck, they hate the moderately wealthy. They also hate blacks, wimmin, Hispanics, the environment, clean air and water, anything not made out of chemicals or consumes more than 10 mpg, science, organic food, every Muslim on the planet and Santa Claus. They exist only to make the extreme rich extremely richer. So they are deliberately trying to sabotage the country so they can seize power and sell the middle class and poor into slavery to corporations and move them all to China.

Actually, it's a "mixed message". They say the opposite of their policies. You just listed their policies. However they were designed, it's what they actually do that's important.

They say they are for science, yet want to teach the occult, which is clearly anti science.

They say they are for clean air and clean water, yet their most popular nominee for president wants to end the EPA.

They say they are for jobs. Elected candidates that ran on a "jobs" platform. But once in office, did nothing for jobs. In fact their policies only make the economy worse.

It's clear, their policies do all those things because they don't know how to "think things through". They don't understand "unintended consequence".
 
Defense is the single biggest item in the budget. Defense is solely to blame for the mess we're in.


Social Security and Medicare make up 40% of the federal budget.

There are 18,000 babyboomers entering social security/medicare DAILY and this will continue for the next 15 years. Resulting in another 64 trillion on top of the 14.3 trillion in red ink we're at now. Equating to $534,000.00 per household in America owed to the Federal Government to pay this tab. And that beats military spending HANDS DOWN.

And it's DEMOCRATS to blame for the mess we're in. They are the ones that expanded these programs to include anyone and everyone--who gets these "weird" yuppy diseases--and they get a taxpayer funded life for the rest of their lives--and they're perfectly capable of working.

Social Security is not a budget item. Social Security is funded by the payroll tax.

And Health Care.

2009 saw the largest single increase in the cost of Health Care. Before anything from Romneycare even took effect. Medicare estimates are anywhere from 3 to 5.5% of GDP while Health Care is nearly 18%. And look at who Medicare takes care of. Expensive old people and the disabled. And yet Health Care costs more? How can that be? Ask the Republicans. It's there policies that did it. They don't even know it was Bush that signed TARP. They get their news from Fox.
 
If you can show any evidence that the mainstream conservative Republican consensus supports meaningful real cuts in defense spending,

by all means do so. Otherwise admit that I'm right.

Why would anyone waste his time providing evidence for that? Defense is small potatoes compared to the liberal boondoggles.

Defense is the single biggest item in the budget. Defense is solely to blame for the mess we're in.

Were you aware that reality doesn't give a shit about your claims?

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Of course they are.

The GOP hates Obama. They hate liberals. In fact, they hate America. They hate the middle class and poor people. Heck, they hate the moderately wealthy. They also hate blacks, wimmin, Hispanics, the environment, clean air and water, anything not made out of chemicals or consumes more than 10 mpg, science, organic food, every Muslim on the planet and Santa Claus. They exist only to make the extreme rich extremely richer. So they are deliberately trying to sabotage the country so they can seize power and sell the middle class and poor into slavery to corporations and move them all to China.
Congratulations. You just gave Wry a woody. :lol:

and Dean .......:eusa_angel:
:lol: Ewwwww.
 
Defense is the single biggest item in the budget. Defense is solely to blame for the mess we're in.


Social Security and Medicare make up 40% of the federal budget.

There are 18,000 babyboomers entering social security/medicare DAILY and this will continue for the next 15 years. Resulting in another 64 trillion on top of the 14.3 trillion in red ink we're at now. Equating to $534,000.00 per household in America owed to the Federal Government to pay this tab. And that beats military spending HANDS DOWN.

And it's DEMOCRATS to blame for the mess we're in. They are the ones that expanded these programs to include anyone and everyone--who gets these "weird" yuppy diseases--and they get a taxpayer funded life for the rest of their lives--and they're perfectly capable of working.

Social Security is not a budget item. Social Security is funded by the payroll tax.

LBJ changed Social Security so it was officially counted in the budget.

For Fiscal year (FY) 2012, Federal spending was budgeted at $3.7 trillion. Over half of the budget (57%) went towards Mandatory programs, such as Social Security, Medicare and Military Retirement programs. These expenditures were mandated by law, and cannot be changed in the annual budget process. The rest of the budget, called Discretionary programs, are negotiated between the President and Congress each year. Nearly half of the Discretionary budget went toward military spending. The remaining 4.6% of spending ($240 billion) went toward interest payments on the $14 trillion national debt.

US Federal Budget and Spending Primer - A Description of the US Federal Budget as it Relates to the US Economy
 
Oh, exactly. As I've said for a long time, conservatives don't want less government, they just want less of the other guy's government.

There may be Republicans who want that, but not conservatives. By definition, a conservative is someone who supports smaller government. The term "big government conservative" is an oxymoron, just like the term "honest liberal."

Of course you get a few outliers like Ron Paul who'll talk up significant defense cuts, but guys like him don't get the GOP presidential nominations, and the truth is, conservatives like him are quietly despised by the conservative Republican establishment.

So you're only a "true conservative" if you support defense cuts? next you'll claim a true conservative supports socialized medicine.


So, conservatives are against Gov. Rick Scott's plan to spend up to $9,000,000 of taxpayer money to drug test people getting unemployment checks? That's a new government program that makes government bigger.
 
The Right keeps trying to sell this fantasy that big cuts in government spending will cause some sort of boom in jobs creation.

That's not how austerity works. If austerity worked that way, BOTH parties would be cutting spending like mad.

Wrong. You claim is based on the premise that liberals actually want the economy to boom.


Don't be fucking idiot. Of course Democrats want the economy to boom with a Democrat in the WH seeking re-election.
 
If you can show any evidence that the mainstream conservative Republican consensus supports meaningful real cuts in defense spending,

by all means do so. Otherwise admit that I'm right.

Why would anyone waste his time providing evidence for that? Defense is small potatoes compared to the liberal boondoggles.
Name a Liberal boondoggle.
 
I think that Synthaholic is moving right as he matures. I'm not sensing the spirit of the fight in his posts. Perhaps there is hope after all.
 
I think people making over a million per year are rich. I think people making over 10 million a year are very rich.

Other than pure whim, what's the rational basis for this assessment?

is $900,000 / year "rich?"

What a system. We have a vote as to what's enough money and then punish people who make more then that. Oh, but only because it's "fair."
Contributing to the society you live in is 'punishment'?

Yup - you're a conservative!
 
Oh, exactly. As I've said for a long time, conservatives don't want less government, they just want less of the other guy's government.

There may be Republicans who want that, but not conservatives. By definition, a conservative is someone who supports smaller government. The term "big government conservative" is an oxymoron, just like the term "honest liberal."

Of course you get a few outliers like Ron Paul who'll talk up significant defense cuts, but guys like him don't get the GOP presidential nominations, and the truth is, conservatives like him are quietly despised by the conservative Republican establishment.

So you're only a "true conservative" if you support defense cuts? next you'll claim a true conservative supports socialized medicine.


So, conservatives are against Gov. Rick Scott's plan to spend up to $9,000,000 of taxpayer money to drug test people getting unemployment checks? That's a new government program that makes government bigger.
And adds to Scott's bank account.
 
I don't believe that people making 250k would be taxed at the same rate as people making 10 million.

Why not? What's fair about charging one person one rate and another person another rate?
You know what? You should stop spending so much time here, and educate yourself a bit. Start with 'progressive taxation'. Google it. If you believe that it is wrong, then you are so far outside the mainstream, I'm wasting my time talking to you at all. The extreme fringe doesn't deserve thoughtful discussion.
 
How would taxing the rich more not reduce the deficit? Seriously, are you high or something?

For one thing, the rich have ways of sheltering their income from taxation, like moving it overseas. The higher the tax rate, the more effort is expended avoiding taxation. These efforts are usually bad for the economy.


OK - make that illegal.
 
It's not confiscation, it's taxation. And it's not their money if it is owed in taxes.

ROFL! There's no practical or moral difference between taxation and confiscation. It is your money regardless of whether the government decides to take it.

Well let's see. You earned the money, the government has the power to take it by force. You don't see that as an equal moral claim?
Where did you earn the money? Here.
 

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