Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
War Iran could end up like another Vietnam war.
Meh.
The people are itching to string up the mullahs.
If Obama wasn't such a twat, they'd have done it 10 years ago.
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War Iran could end up like another Vietnam war.
Shock and awe ?I believe our technology/weaponry has vastly improved since Nam. Not a lot of dense forest over there either. Not sure what you're talking about.War Iran could end up like another Vietnam war.
Iran isn't Syria. It appears you Warhawks think it will be a walk in the park. It won't be. There is going to be a lot of dying on both sides even if it's done just by air alone.
Yeah like Iraq and the mother of all wars...then shock and awe happened. Lol
Didn’t that lead to Mission Accomplished in Iraq?
I doubt it. Nobody wants to fuck with Trump.I believe our technology/weaponry has vastly improved since Nam. Not a lot of dense forest over there either. Not sure what you're talking about.War Iran could end up like another Vietnam war.
Yes, but war with Iran could also mean war with Russia and China and their Technology is advanced..
Because you never condemned Bill Clinton.Yep, why is Trump any different?Hillary's Arkansas hick pervert husband bombed a defenseless European country when he was caught with his pants down and the crazy angry left thinks President Trump is a neophyte?
“Is the naive, militarily challenged, foreign policy neophyte, Trump starting a war with Iran?”
That may very well be the case.
Trump is dishonest and duplicitous; nothing he says can be believed.
And given Trump’s consistently poor approval ratings and polls showing him losing in many key swing states, it’s perfectly appropriate to be concerned that Trump will start a war with Iran in an effort to improve his reelection chances.
So..Trump designs his tweets for a certain audience, his base. Members of his base are the only ones who will believe what he says. Such is the case with his tweets today.
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
....On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not....
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
....proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!
6:03 AM - Jun 21, 2019
"Sights???" Would you trust a President who doesn't know the difference between "sights" and "sites?"
"We were cocked & loaded?" Did Trump get that from a John Wayne movie? What a trite phrase for a President to use, but it is the kind of phrase his fans love.
There is the overall tenor of these two tweets that only Trump's adoring admirers could possibly believe. Our military is about to make a serious mistake according to Trump's story line and suddenly, at the last minute, he rides in on his white horse and saves the day. Good Lord, it is difficult to imagine anyone believing that. Is that how decisions are made in the Trump White House?
"I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike." Very dramatic and a total lie. When the Pentagon presents its options for a military strike, up front is the estimate of casualties. No President is going to learn of the casualty estimate ten minutes before zero hour unless said President is just plain stupid.
"Sanctions are biting & more added last night." Another lie, the White House has not imposed new sanctions, not yet, anyway. However, that seems to be the direction toward which Trump is heading. He backed Iran into a corner, and Iran shot down a very expensive UAV.
Iran called his bluff and Trump chooses to back down.
World saw the might of the US to quickly take over Iraq with minimal casualtiesShock and awe ?I believe our technology/weaponry has vastly improved since Nam. Not a lot of dense forest over there either. Not sure what you're talking about.War Iran could end up like another Vietnam war.
Iran isn't Syria. It appears you Warhawks think it will be a walk in the park. It won't be. There is going to be a lot of dying on both sides even if it's done just by air alone.
Yeah like Iraq and the mother of all wars...then shock and awe happened. Lol
Didn’t that lead to Mission Accomplished in Iraq?
Was it shock and awe, troll? Did the world see the might of the United States military?
Sit your trolling dumbass down for once. You're not intelligent, clever nor informative...just a worthless loud mouth left loon.
Trump is trying to bully a military response from IranSo..Trump designs his tweets for a certain audience, his base. Members of his base are the only ones who will believe what he says. Such is the case with his tweets today.
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
....On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not....
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
....proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!
6:03 AM - Jun 21, 2019
"Sights???" Would you trust a President who doesn't know the difference between "sights" and "sites?"
"We were cocked & loaded?" Did Trump get that from a John Wayne movie? What a trite phrase for a President to use, but it is the kind of phrase his fans love.
There is the overall tenor of these two tweets that only Trump's adoring admirers could possibly believe. Our military is about to make a serious mistake according to Trump's story line and suddenly, at the last minute, he rides in on his white horse and saves the day. Good Lord, it is difficult to imagine anyone believing that. Is that how decisions are made in the Trump White House?
"I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike." Very dramatic and a total lie. When the Pentagon presents its options for a military strike, up front is the estimate of casualties. No President is going to learn of the casualty estimate ten minutes before zero hour unless said President is just plain stupid.
"Sanctions are biting & more added last night." Another lie, the White House has not imposed new sanctions, not yet, anyway. However, that seems to be the direction toward which Trump is heading. He backed Iran into a corner, and Iran shot down a very expensive UAV.
Iran called his bluff and Trump chooses to back down.
Trump is a crazy guy who wants war with Iran. When Iran does something to actually warrant a military response Trump passes and you criticize him for that as well?
So, what could Trump do that would be considered a good thing?
World saw the might of the US to quickly take over Iraq with minimal casualtiesShock and awe ?I believe our technology/weaponry has vastly improved since Nam. Not a lot of dense forest over there either. Not sure what you're talking about.
Iran isn't Syria. It appears you Warhawks think it will be a walk in the park. It won't be. There is going to be a lot of dying on both sides even if it's done just by air alone.
Yeah like Iraq and the mother of all wars...then shock and awe happened. Lol
Didn’t that lead to Mission Accomplished in Iraq?
Was it shock and awe, troll? Did the world see the might of the United States military?
Sit your trolling dumbass down for once. You're not intelligent, clever nor informative...just a worthless loud mouth left loon.
Then they said......Told ya so, as we bogged down in civil war and unconventional warfare.
Lost 6000 soldiers unnecessarily
Now Trump NOT taking any action is also a call to war?Trump is trying to bully a military response from IranSo..Trump designs his tweets for a certain audience, his base. Members of his base are the only ones who will believe what he says. Such is the case with his tweets today.
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
....On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not....
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
....proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!
6:03 AM - Jun 21, 2019
"Sights???" Would you trust a President who doesn't know the difference between "sights" and "sites?"
"We were cocked & loaded?" Did Trump get that from a John Wayne movie? What a trite phrase for a President to use, but it is the kind of phrase his fans love.
There is the overall tenor of these two tweets that only Trump's adoring admirers could possibly believe. Our military is about to make a serious mistake according to Trump's story line and suddenly, at the last minute, he rides in on his white horse and saves the day. Good Lord, it is difficult to imagine anyone believing that. Is that how decisions are made in the Trump White House?
"I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike." Very dramatic and a total lie. When the Pentagon presents its options for a military strike, up front is the estimate of casualties. No President is going to learn of the casualty estimate ten minutes before zero hour unless said President is just plain stupid.
"Sanctions are biting & more added last night." Another lie, the White House has not imposed new sanctions, not yet, anyway. However, that seems to be the direction toward which Trump is heading. He backed Iran into a corner, and Iran shot down a very expensive UAV.
Iran called his bluff and Trump chooses to back down.
Trump is a crazy guy who wants war with Iran. When Iran does something to actually warrant a military response Trump passes and you criticize him for that as well?
So, what could Trump do that would be considered a good thing?
If he wants war, he is going to have a hard time convincing Congress and the American people
It would appear so, although he says he doesn't want a war with Iran. Unfortunately, Americans have learned not to trust anything he says. After all, this is the man who recently said, “No, it’s not what I meant. It’s what I said."
Moreover, actions speak louder than words, and Trump is doing all he can to provoke Iran. After unwisely withdrawing from the nuclear deal with Tehran struck by the Obama administration, which permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear weapon, Trump ratcheted up the sanctions. In April, he moved to shut down Iran’s remaining oil exports.
The only peaceful resolution from this economic vise offered by Trump was a dozen U.S. dictates that would completely reverse Iranian foreign policy and suggested regime change. Combative Secretary of State Mike Pompeo laid out the demands himself, and Pompeo speculated, “what can change is, the people can change the government.”
So, it is quite clear Trump is trying to back Iran up against a wall. If that is Trump's intention, a major flare-up between Washington and Tehran could lead to one of the nastiest, bloodiest conflicts in modern history.
Trump does not have any alternative to the JCPOA -- the nuclear deal he trashed -- other than harsh language, increased sanctions, and threats. Also, Iran, should they choose, could duplicate what Trump did, leave the JCPOA and resume her nuclear research.
Consequently, Thursday produced the entirely predictable images of oil tankers burning near the Strait of Hormuz — and the very real danger of escalation toward armed conflict.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Of course,Trump blames Iran for the attacks, which U.S. officials say involved attaching underwater mines to the ships.
Iran may well be behind the attacks, but there are questions.
First and foremost, why in the world would Iran risk a war with the lone superpower on the planet? There is nothing to suggest that the mullahs are suicidal, and there are serious doubts they want Tehran turned into a parking lot.
The Japanese owner of one of the oil tankers attacked disputes what the Trump administration is saying, and it is awfully convenient the attack occurred while Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was visiting Iran. A bit too convenient, I am not a fan of coincidences.
“We received reports that something flew towards the ship,” Yutaka Katada, president of Kokuka Sangyo, said Friday. “I do not think there was a time bomb or an object attached to the side of the ship.” Katada pointed out that the projectile was above the waterline. Why in the world would anyone plant a mine above the waterline?
On Thursday, Americans learned about a report from U.S. officials that said that an un-exploded mine was attached to one of the ships. On Friday, the U.S. military released video appearing to show an Iranian craft removing an un-exploded mine from one of the vessels. The object was above the waterline.
How did the U.S. military get their hands on that video? Who shot the video? Who caught the IRGC red-handed?
The Lincoln CBG (Carrier Battle Group), of which the guided missile destroyer Bainbridge is a part, was in the area. All 21 crew members of the Kokuka Courageous were rescued by the Bainbridge.
Question, an American CBG controls the seas surrounding its position. How did an Iranian boat move in and remove this mine?
Iran may be responsible. However, questions abound.
War Iran could end up like another Vietnam war.