JakeStarkey
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Lumpy1, there is nothing to stay out of. Dude is getting rocked back on his heels again, as usual, is all.
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Of course it's a right.
1. The massive growth of government in the 20th and 21st centuries is to promote what the government defines as fair and just. Inherent in this is the question of the legitimate role of government in a free society. The Constitution tells what the Founders understood as most of the legitimate powers of the federal government, as listed in the enumerated powers in Article I, section 8. Congress is authorized to do 21 things.
a. Each and every outlay of taxpayer dollars should be viewed and compared to this list, as per bailing out banks, managing car companies, subsidizing farms, etc.
b. America has moved away from the constitutional principle of limited government that made us great and prosperous.
c. The other side of the coin from limited government is individual liberty: private property is the bulwark of freedom. Excessive taxation is, in effect, an attack on private property and free enterprise.
d. A tax represents a government claim on private property, a confiscation of private property that could otherwise be freely spent, or freely invested.
2. The primary justification for increasing the size and scale of government at the expense of liberty is that government alone can achieve what it perceives as good. But, in a free society, what moral right is there for forcibly taking the rightful property of one person and giving it to another person to whom it does not belong?
a. Charity is noble and good when it involves reaching into ones own pocket.
b. In a free society, such relationships should be voluntary, in that both parties to the exchange feel good about it. A suitor pays to purchase a diamond ring for his adored.
c. Involuntary exchanges means that one party gains while the other loses. A criminal uses a gun to obtain a diamond ring.
Future Prospects for Economic Liberty
Walter Williams
August 2, 2009 lecture for Hillsdale College
Your source is a screwball. I have known Dr. Williams for almost thirty years. Remember that one of his political heroes is John C. Calhoun, who never, ever would have allowed a person of color to be editorializing in public. Calhoun may have let Walter push a broom in the college hallways, though.
Of course it's a right.
1. The massive growth of government in the 20th and 21st centuries is to promote what the government defines as fair and just. Inherent in this is the question of the legitimate role of government in a free society. The Constitution tells what the Founders understood as most of the legitimate powers of the federal government, as listed in the enumerated powers in Article I, section 8. Congress is authorized to do 21 things.
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Of course it's a right.
1. The massive growth of government in the 20th and 21st centuries is to promote what the government defines as fair and just. Inherent in this is the question of the legitimate role of government in a free society. The Constitution tells what the Founders understood as most of the legitimate powers of the federal government, as listed in the enumerated powers in Article I, section 8. Congress is authorized to do 21 things.
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Yes, and Congress has the authority to create universal healthcare
How are you going about defining what a right is?Of course it's a right.
A right, pragmatically, is going to be whatever a Congressional majority, a Presidential signature, and a Supreme Court positive ruling says a right is going to be.
Nobody asked you, pinhead.A right, pragmatically, is going to be whatever a Congressional majority, a Presidential signature, and a Supreme Court positive ruling says a right is going to be.
A right, pragmatically, is going to be whatever a Congressional majority, a Presidential signature, and a Supreme Court positive ruling says a right is going to be.
Which inversely means that anything a Congressional majority, a Presidential signature, or a Supreme Court ruling says is not a right is not going to be a right. Which means that under this nonsensical positivist interpretation they could take away any right they want whenever they want.
Gentleman.. Gentleman ... never mind I'll stay out of it.....
Gentleman.. Gentleman ... never mind I'll stay out of it.....
I just love a good catfight.