Isn't it funny how liberals defend socialism?

[kaz]

Dude, Kaz has basically skull fucked you. You have no response, cause you lost. You ought to be used to it by now, considering you are wrong about everything.

Fucking idiot. Get a clue and just give up loser.

You are that impressed by the crying communism eh? That is funny.

I think he's impressed by my nailing you to the wall with your inability to show how your beloved leader isn't a Marxist by pointing out you can't name any plank of the Communist Manifesto Obama disagrees with and I was right, you can't

Is he impressed by your claims that are backed up by nothing? You repubs are impressed so easily.

I asked how Obama opposes the Communist manifesto and you couldn't come up with a single thing. It was a classic moment

Really? A pointless question is a classic moment for you? How sad.

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

 

[Rustic]

No I have intelligently looked at his record. You just keep whining communist like a child.

You "intelligently looked at his record" and you didn't find anything conflicting with the Communist Manifesto? Seriously?

So if he's not a communist, didn't I just set you up? How does he disagree with the Communist manifesto? If you can't answer that, yet you can't admit you are wrong, aren't you showing you're the child?

So I assume you have studied the communist manifesto and obama and are going to tell me all the ways he is a communist? Seems you are just crying with no point.

No I have intelligently looked at his record. You just keep whining communist like a child.

You "intelligently looked at his record" and you didn't find anything conflicting with the Communist Manifesto? Seriously?

So if he's not a communist, didn't I just set you up? How does he disagree with the Communist manifesto? If you can't answer that, yet you can't admit you are wrong, aren't you showing you're the child?

So I assume you have studied the communist manifesto and obama and are going to tell me all the ways he is a communist? Seems you are just crying with no point.

He agrees with all of it except a plank or two that aren't applicable since it was written during the time of an agricultural society rather than an industrial one. Not that he specifically disagrees with those either.

OK, your turn, how isn't he a Marxist? What part of the Communist Manifesto does he disagree with? Should be easy for a non-Marxist to do, disagree with the communist manifesto

You base that on what? Not his record obviously.

I have no intention of studying the communist manifesto. And if I did I can't read his mind to find out what he agrees with. Do you always waste time like this?

No intention? The Bible for socialists, written by the god of socialists - marx...

Come to think about it -
Hitler's Mein Kampf, marxist Communist manifesto - both guides for socialism for dummies...

 

[Brain357]

So I assume you have studied the communist manifesto and obama and are going to tell me all the ways he is a communist? Seems you are just crying with no point.

So I assume you have studied the communist manifesto and obama and are going to tell me all the ways he is a communist? Seems you are just crying with no point.

He agrees with all of it except a plank or two that aren't applicable since it was written during the time of an agricultural society rather than an industrial one. Not that he specifically disagrees with those either.

OK, your turn, how isn't he a Marxist? What part of the Communist Manifesto does he disagree with? Should be easy for a non-Marxist to do, disagree with the communist manifesto

You base that on what? Not his record obviously.

I have no intention of studying the communist manifesto. And if I did I can't read his mind to find out what he agrees with. Do you always waste time like this?

So you don't know what the communist manifesto says but you know Obama's not one, but you can't read his mind, but you know he's not one. I see why you call yourself "brain."

OK, I don't, why do you do that?

And why is it you think you can read minds? Again after almost 8 years we are not closer to communism. Stop crying communist. It is sad when that is all the right has.

Read who's mind, what are you talking about? Obama is President, you know what his policies are and what he says. When does he disagree with the Communist manifesto? You also claimed to have studied him

I've not heard him agree with communism. You say he is a communist. You reading his mind or can you show where he has said he is a communist?

 

[Brain357]

You are that impressed by the crying communism eh? That is funny.

I think he's impressed by my nailing you to the wall with your inability to show how your beloved leader isn't a Marxist by pointing out you can't name any plank of the Communist Manifesto Obama disagrees with and I was right, you can't

Is he impressed by your claims that are backed up by nothing? You repubs are impressed so easily.

I asked how Obama opposes the Communist manifesto and you couldn't come up with a single thing. It was a classic moment

Really? A pointless question is a classic moment for you? How sad.

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

I was in a discussion about socialism. You are the one so dead set on crying about Obama as a communist. Like I have said, pretty pointless.

 

[Billo_Really]

I don't know what you're talking about. All I know is you said your experience with employers is they love you and you're constantly offered other jobs and they treat you well in your job.

But you post that employers are evil and government needs to take care of workers. But not yours, they love you and you love them, that's your experience.

I know you in real life fine, you're full of shit, and I bet I'm not exactly the first to point that out

First off, I said I like my employer, I didn't say anything about how they felt about me. Second, I said I turn down at least two job offers a week; I didn't say anything about recruiters loving me. Third, I said corporations are "fascist", I didn't say they were evil.

Evil is a human emotion and corporations are not human, they only exist on paper.

Fourth, I didn't say the government needs to take care of people, it's Congress job, to care for the health and welfare of the country. That's not the job of the corporation, yet you want us to put our faith in the latter, because you're a fucked citizen and a traitor to this country.

 

[hangover]

"Isn't it funny how liberals defend socialism?"

This fails as a straw man fallacy - another ridiculous lie from the right.

Another complete moron con that doesn't know the difference between socialism and fascism.

 

[kaz]

He agrees with all of it except a plank or two that aren't applicable since it was written during the time of an agricultural society rather than an industrial one. Not that he specifically disagrees with those either.

OK, your turn, how isn't he a Marxist? What part of the Communist Manifesto does he disagree with? Should be easy for a non-Marxist to do, disagree with the communist manifesto

You base that on what? Not his record obviously.

I have no intention of studying the communist manifesto. And if I did I can't read his mind to find out what he agrees with. Do you always waste time like this?

So you don't know what the communist manifesto says but you know Obama's not one, but you can't read his mind, but you know he's not one. I see why you call yourself "brain."

OK, I don't, why do you do that?

And why is it you think you can read minds? Again after almost 8 years we are not closer to communism. Stop crying communist. It is sad when that is all the right has.

Read who's mind, what are you talking about? Obama is President, you know what his policies are and what he says. When does he disagree with the Communist manifesto? You also claimed to have studied him

I've not heard him agree with communism. You say he is a communist. You reading his mind or can you show where he has said he is a communist?

What a low standard for a non-Communist. Disagree with the Communist manifesto. And you've said you've studied Obama. And you come back with you haven't heard him say he's a communist, that's your go to that he's not a communist. You can't come up with any positions he disagrees with communism on, just that he doesn't say he is one.

You get funnier and funnier

 

[kaz]

I think he's impressed by my nailing you to the wall with your inability to show how your beloved leader isn't a Marxist by pointing out you can't name any plank of the Communist Manifesto Obama disagrees with and I was right, you can't

Is he impressed by your claims that are backed up by nothing? You repubs are impressed so easily.

I asked how Obama opposes the Communist manifesto and you couldn't come up with a single thing. It was a classic moment

Really? A pointless question is a classic moment for you? How sad.

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

I was in a discussion about socialism. You are the one so dead set on crying about Obama as a communist. Like I have said, pretty pointless.

Actually you were in a discussion about whether they were the same thing.

And yes, it is pointless wasting your time trying to convince anyone Obama's not a marxist, he is one. Which is why you can't come up with any examples where he's not

 

[kaz]

I don't know what you're talking about. All I know is you said your experience with employers is they love you and you're constantly offered other jobs and they treat you well in your job.

But you post that employers are evil and government needs to take care of workers. But not yours, they love you and you love them, that's your experience.

I know you in real life fine, you're full of shit, and I bet I'm not exactly the first to point that out

First off, I said I like my employer, I didn't say anything about how they felt about me. Second, I said I turn down at least two job offers a week; I didn't say anything about recruiters loving me. Third, I said corporations are "fascist", I didn't say they were evil.

Evil is a human emotion and corporations are not human, they only exist on paper.

Fourth, I didn't say the government needs to take care of people, it's Congress job, to care for the health and welfare of the country. That's not the job of the corporation, yet you want us to put our faith in the latter, because you're a fucked citizen and a traitor to this country.

" it's Congress job, to care for the health and welfare of the country."



It is? Where is that in the Constitution? That's just sick. Government is supposed to be a referee, not a kindergarten teacher. No wonder you hate employers if you think government is there to take care of you

 

[bripat9643]

"Capitalism has always been brutal in its methods. But it developed technology and a worldwide system of production which laid the material basis or groundwork for overcoming scarcity and creating abundance for all. People could have everything they need to live well. But it’s impossible to achieve under the capitalist system, which is driven to pursue profits rather than human needs. Therefore, as Karl Marx pointed out, only a workers’ or proletarian socialist revolution could bring about a society of abundance for all."
Capitalism is the Problem: Workers' Socialist Revolution is the Solution
Marx understood production for profit would create the material surplus necessary for production for need to take place. Abundance for all is impossible as long as the surplus condenses into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation.

Here's what the socialist revolution gets you:

 

[bripat9643]

You fuckers are so retarded.

Medicare and Social Security are socialist programs and everyone seems to love them?

The suckers under 40 who will get the shitty end of the stick aren't going to love them when it comes time to collect.

 

[Billo_Really]

" it's Congress job, to care for the health and welfare of the country."



It is? Where is that in the Constitution?

Right here.

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To...provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

That's just sick.

Oh, so you think the Constitution is sick?

Government is supposed to be a referee, not a kindergarten teacher. No wonder you hate employers if you think government is there to take care of you

I didn't say government was to take care of me. As in the case of SSI, I'm just getting my own money back.

 

[Brain357]

You base that on what? Not his record obviously.

I have no intention of studying the communist manifesto. And if I did I can't read his mind to find out what he agrees with. Do you always waste time like this?

So you don't know what the communist manifesto says but you know Obama's not one, but you can't read his mind, but you know he's not one. I see why you call yourself "brain."

OK, I don't, why do you do that?

And why is it you think you can read minds? Again after almost 8 years we are not closer to communism. Stop crying communist. It is sad when that is all the right has.

Read who's mind, what are you talking about? Obama is President, you know what his policies are and what he says. When does he disagree with the Communist manifesto? You also claimed to have studied him

I've not heard him agree with communism. You say he is a communist. You reading his mind or can you show where he has said he is a communist?

What a low standard for a non-Communist. Disagree with the Communist manifesto. And you've said you've studied Obama. And you come back with you haven't heard him say he's a communist, that's your go to that he's not a communist. You can't come up with any positions he disagrees with communism on, just that he doesn't say he is one.

You get funnier and funnier

You keep saying he is with nothing to back it up. Now that is funny. After almost 8 years as president you have nothing.

I said I would have to study obama. I've no intention to do that.

 

[Brain357]

Is he impressed by your claims that are backed up by nothing? You repubs are impressed so easily.

I asked how Obama opposes the Communist manifesto and you couldn't come up with a single thing. It was a classic moment

Really? A pointless question is a classic moment for you? How sad.

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

I was in a discussion about socialism. You are the one so dead set on crying about Obama as a communist. Like I have said, pretty pointless.

Actually you were in a discussion about whether they were the same thing.

And yes, it is pointless wasting your time trying to convince anyone Obama's not a marxist, he is one. Which is why you can't come up with any examples where he's not

So you are too stupid to know the difference. Shocking.

 

[kaz]

" it's Congress job, to care for the health and welfare of the country."



It is? Where is that in the Constitution?

Right here.

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To...provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

What you said and what you quoted in the constitution both had the word "welfare" in them, that's why you think they are the same? And BTW, general welfare and welfare are not the same thing. General welfare means things like police and national parks for the general public. It doesn't mean giving you someone else's money. That's your welfare, not the general welfare. So you had one word the same which meant something different. LOL, and "health" is nowhere in the constitution at all. And again, certainly not the health of individuals.

That's just sick.

Oh, so you think the Constitution is sick?

You forgot the rim shot

Government is supposed to be a referee, not a kindergarten teacher. No wonder you hate employers if you think government is there to take care of you

I didn't say government was to take care of me. As in the case of SSI, I'm just getting my own money back.

No, your money was spent as it was taken in. On SSI you're getting someone else's money. You're taking your kids money. Or the government is. And government is giving it to you. The word for that is welfare. And not general welfare

 

[kaz]

So you don't know what the communist manifesto says but you know Obama's not one, but you can't read his mind, but you know he's not one. I see why you call yourself "brain."

OK, I don't, why do you do that?

And why is it you think you can read minds? Again after almost 8 years we are not closer to communism. Stop crying communist. It is sad when that is all the right has.

Read who's mind, what are you talking about? Obama is President, you know what his policies are and what he says. When does he disagree with the Communist manifesto? You also claimed to have studied him

I've not heard him agree with communism. You say he is a communist. You reading his mind or can you show where he has said he is a communist?

What a low standard for a non-Communist. Disagree with the Communist manifesto. And you've said you've studied Obama. And you come back with you haven't heard him say he's a communist, that's your go to that he's not a communist. You can't come up with any positions he disagrees with communism on, just that he doesn't say he is one.

You get funnier and funnier

You keep saying he is with nothing to back it up. Now that is funny. After almost 8 years as president you have nothing.

I said I would have to study obama. I've no intention to do that.

You didn't expect a real stumper of a question like how a guy who's been your president for 7 years and you say you've studied isn't a Marxist. I mean who can answer a poser like that? It's just unreal. Certainly not someone who thinks he's a brain. I mean wow, that's crazy hard. Well, it's hard if he is a Marxist and you don't want to accept that. And by you I mean you. If he wasn't a Marxist it would be easy

 

[kaz]

I asked how Obama opposes the Communist manifesto and you couldn't come up with a single thing. It was a classic moment

Really? A pointless question is a classic moment for you? How sad.

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

I was in a discussion about socialism. You are the one so dead set on crying about Obama as a communist. Like I have said, pretty pointless.

Actually you were in a discussion about whether they were the same thing.

And yes, it is pointless wasting your time trying to convince anyone Obama's not a marxist, he is one. Which is why you can't come up with any examples where he's not

So you are too stupid to know the difference. Shocking.

This from the guy who actually can't say any difference... LOL

 

[Brain357]

Really? A pointless question is a classic moment for you? How sad.

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

I was in a discussion about socialism. You are the one so dead set on crying about Obama as a communist. Like I have said, pretty pointless.

Actually you were in a discussion about whether they were the same thing.

And yes, it is pointless wasting your time trying to convince anyone Obama's not a marxist, he is one. Which is why you can't come up with any examples where he's not

So you are too stupid to know the difference. Shocking.

This from the guy who actually can't say any difference... LOL

I can give you many differences between socialism and communism. You have been too busy crying about Obama being a communist. I'm still waiting for anything that resembles proof. His record says he is not.

 

[Brain357]

This is the socialism even Bernie supports. Now tell me how it is communism.
Nordic model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kaz]

If whether Obama is communist or not is pointless, why is it so important to you that he's not one?

I was in a discussion about socialism. You are the one so dead set on crying about Obama as a communist. Like I have said, pretty pointless.

Actually you were in a discussion about whether they were the same thing.

And yes, it is pointless wasting your time trying to convince anyone Obama's not a marxist, he is one. Which is why you can't come up with any examples where he's not

So you are too stupid to know the difference. Shocking.

This from the guy who actually can't say any difference... LOL

I can give you many differences between socialism and communism. You have been too busy crying about Obama being a communist. I'm still waiting for anything that resembles proof. His record says he is not.

Now we're getting somewhere. "His record says he's not." What policy has he had that contradicts the Communist Manifesto? Now that you understand the question finally, this should be easy, right?