Israel attacks civilians

[Toddsterpatriot]

Still no map of your so called Israel.

So you post a map from a lying Israeli propaganda site. Those are legally Palestinian borders.

You mean the borders controlled by the Israeli military?
If you say so.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So you post a map from a lying Israeli propaganda site. Those are legally Palestinian borders.

You mean the borders controlled by the Israeli military?
If you say so.

Yep, Palestinian borders controlled by the Israeli military. That is a military occupation.

The Palestinians have the right to attack that occupation until it leaves.

 

[JStone]

Fakestinians

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Italian Muslim Assembly

I believe that "Palestinian identity" is something completely artificial: it was forged as a propagandistic tool against Israel. The strange fact is that, at least here in Europe, I have never heard an Arab from the Land of Israel ("Palestine") say: "I am Palestinian."

Please remember that the so-called hero of "Palestinian independence," the pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of British Mandate Palestine, Haj Amin al-Husseini, never claimed that "Palestinians" are to be an independent people: all of his official declarations state that "Palestine must be recognized as a integral part of Syria."
ISRAEL SHOULD DECLARE OSLO NULL AND VOID (Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi August, 1998

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, University of Paris

No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries--Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq--attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | dreuz.info

Fakestinian History

Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of 10 Books on Jewish and Middle East History

On August 18 Yasir Arafat, speaking as head of the Palestinian National Authority in Gaza and Jericho, told Arab youngsters at a summer camp, "Those of you who lit the intifada fire must now act as defenders of this young state, whose capital is Jerusalem. It is Bir Salem [the fountain of Salem]. Salem was one of the Canaanite Kings, one of our forefathers. This city is the capital of our children and our children's children. If not for this belief and conviction of the Palestinian nation, this people would have been erased from the face of the earth, as were so many other nations."

King Salem is a newcomer on the historical scene. No such Canaanite, Jebusite or Philistine king is known to history

Fakestinian Messiahs. Did you know Jesus Christ, the Jewish rabbi who taught from the Torah and observed Passover in the Jerusalem Temple, was REALLY a muslime fakestinian?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWLyVU0Otlk]Arafat said Jesus was a Palestinian. Palestinian author and TV host agree. - YouTube[/ame]

We’re talking about an ongoing chain [of prophets of the Islam], from Adam to Muhammad. It’s an ongoing chain, representing the call for monotheism, and the mission of Islam… The prophets were all of the same religion [Islam]… Jesus was born in this land. He lived in this land. It is known that he was born in Bethlehem… He also lived in Nazereth, moved to Jerusalem. So he was a Palestinian par excellence…We respect Jesus, we believe in him [as a Muslim prophet], just as we believe in the prophet Muhammad."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQC0zeQFgJc]Jesus misrepresented as "Palestinian" by Mufti of the Palestinian Authority - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So you post a map from a lying Israeli propaganda site. Those are legally Palestinian borders.

You mean the borders controlled by the Israeli military?
If you say so.

Yep, Palestinian borders controlled by the Israeli military. That is a military occupation.

The Palestinians have the right to attack that occupation until it leaves.

Military occupation of a nation that never existed?

Your terrorist buddies might have their own nation, if Arafat wasn't too busy taking it up the ass to accept an Israeli offer.
Instead, they have nothing and fire rockets at school buses.
You must be so proud.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You mean the borders controlled by the Israeli military?
If you say so.

Yep, Palestinian borders controlled by the Israeli military. That is a military occupation.

The Palestinians have the right to attack that occupation until it leaves.

Military occupation of a nation that never existed?

Your terrorist buddies might have their own nation, if Arafat wasn't too busy taking it up the ass to accept an Israeli offer.
Instead, they have nothing and fire rockets at school buses.
You must be so proud.

Israel has nothing to give.

Besides, Arafat sold out. He sold the Palestinians down the river when he signed on to Oslo. He couldn't get the Palestinians on board with that farce.

 

[JStone]

Yep, Palestinian borders controlled by the Israeli military. That is a military occupation.

The Palestinians have the right to attack that occupation until it leaves.

Military occupation of a nation that never existed?

Your terrorist buddies might have their own nation, if Arafat wasn't too busy taking it up the ass to accept an Israeli offer.
Instead, they have nothing and fire rockets at school buses.
You must be so proud.

Israel has nothing to give.

Besides, Arafat sold out. He sold the Palestinians down the river when he signed on to Oslo. He couldn't get the Palestinians on board with that farce.

Pestilinians were losers then and pestilinians are losers now.

Palestinians: Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death

Historian Bernard Lewis

If the peoples of the Middle East continue on their present path, the suicide bomber may become a metaphor for the whole region, and there will be no escape from a downward spiral of hate and spite, rage and self-pity, poverty and oppression.

Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Official Biographer of Winston Churchill

I cannot stress enough the importance of the few days Churchill spent throughout Palestine in 1921. The contrast between the extraordinary negative points of view put forth by the Palestinian Arabs and the equally positive ones put forth by the Zionists struck him enormously. Churchill didn't like negativism and he couldn't comprehend why the Palestinian Arabs were being so negative. It's quite curious. If you have a look at what the Palestinian Arabs told him, you'll find that three or four are actually in the Hamas Charter today, such as the world Jewish conspiracy and so on and so forth. That said, the Palestinian Arabs just made a bad impression on him and subsequently, he became very negative toward them; in modern terms, almost racist. When Churchill spoke to the Palestinian Arabs, he actually said to them, 'You've got to help the Zionists. They're people of quality and inasmuch as they'll succeed, you'll succeed. Without them you won't succeed.'

Massachussets Institute of Technology [MIT]

As a world leader in science and technology, Israel excels in such areas as genetics, medicine, agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, optics, and engineering. Scientists at Israeli universities such as Bar Ilan University, Ben Gurion University, Haifa University, Hebrew University, The Technion--Israel Institute of Technology, Tel Aviv University and the Weizmann Institute of Science are pioneers in areas such as stem cell-based tissue engineering, nanotechnology, high-resolution electron microscopy, and solar energy. Israeli companies have developed such diverse products as the first anti-virus package, technologies that allow you to leave voice mail on mobile phones, and stents that save lives by keeping the arteries to the heart open.
MISTI MIT-Israel

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pestilinians were losers then and pestilinians are losers now.

Really,? They never surrendered to Israel.

 

[JStone]

Pestilinians were losers then and pestilinians are losers now.

Really,? They never surrendered to Israel.

You surrendered your society, loser.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yep, Palestinian borders controlled by the Israeli military. That is a military occupation.

The Palestinians have the right to attack that occupation until it leaves.

Military occupation of a nation that never existed?

Your terrorist buddies might have their own nation, if Arafat wasn't too busy taking it up the ass to accept an Israeli offer.
Instead, they have nothing and fire rockets at school buses.
You must be so proud.

Israel has nothing to give.

Besides, Arafat sold out. He sold the Palestinians down the river when he signed on to Oslo. He couldn't get the Palestinians on board with that farce.

No map of "Palestine" when it was a nation?

 

[JStone]

Pestilinians were losers then and pestilinians are losers now.

Really,? They never surrendered to Israel.

"The Misery of Arabs/Apple R&D In Israel"

Apple will open a research and development center in Israel that will focus on semiconductors

The R&D center in Herzliya, Israel’s version of Silicon Valley, would be Apple’s first outside California

Earlier this week, Israeli media reported Apple was in advanced talks to buy Anobit, an Israeli maker of flash storage technology, for $400-$500 million

It is so sad and frustrating to see APPLE investing in Israel, while we as Arabs are not able to attract these investments to our countries! I don’t know what our leaders are doing to create proper environment for such investments!

I would prefer seeing APPLE as well as MICROSOFT having their R&D in Lebanon or any other Arab Country instead of being in ISRAEL!

WISH THE ARAB LEADERS WILL WAKE UP AND CARE FOR DEVELOPING THEIR COUNTRIES AND SOCIETIES INSTEAD OF APPLYING DICTATORSHIP AND KILL THEIR PEOPLE!

The Misery of Arabs ! Apple R&D in ISRAEL! | What do You Think ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pestilinians were losers then and pestilinians are losers now.

Really,? They never surrendered to Israel.

You surrendered your society, loser.

Israel started a war with the Palestinians a hundred years ago. That war has not been won. The first step in all the so called peace talks has been for the Palestinians to surrender and disarm. The Palestinians have not done that. Those fake peace talks have always failed.

 

[JStone]

Really,? They never surrendered to Israel.

You surrendered your society, loser.

Israel started a war with the Palestinians a hundred years ago. That war has not been won. The first step in all the so called peace talks has been for the Palestinians to surrender and disarm. The Palestinians have not done that. Those fake peace talks have always failed.

Salim Mansur: Don't Blame Israel for Arab FailuresDon't blame Israel for Arab failures | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun

"Palestinians Are An Integral Part Of This Dysfunctional Arab World"

Israel is merely a dot relative to the Arab world, and yet made responsible, in the logic of the anti-Zionist bigots, for the problems of the Middle East and the inability of the Arab-Muslim culture to deal with the challenges of the modern world.

Consider the following: The Arab world, excluding Iran and Turkey, is comprised of 22 countries stretching from the Gulf to the Atlantic Ocean with a total area around 13 million sq. km and a population of nearly 350 million. In terms of territorial size, only Russia is larger than the Arab world at 17 million sq. km.

Israel is barely 22,000 sq. km, or about three times the size of New York City, with a population of 7.5 million of which 20% are Israeli Arabs.

An objective consideration of the huge disparity in size and population between the Arab world and Israel should dispel the drivel the world has been fed that Arabs are the "underdog" in a colonial struggle against Jews as a colonizing people.

The reverse disparity between Israelis and Arabs is the tremendous human achievement of the former as free people, and the contrast when measured against the sullen reality of the Arab world just about at the bottom of the UN human development index despite the resources available.

But here, too, Arabs, Muslims and their apologists in the West will fault Israelis for the collective failure of the Arab world.

It is as if the plight of Palestinian "occupation" by Israelis explains the Sudanese civil wars and genocide in Darfur, or the savage killings inside Algeria, or the long list of atrocities, gender oppression, humiliation of religious minorities, wars, military dictatorships, and with no end in sight of violence and murder in the name of Islam across the Arab world.

It is sheer absurdity to hold Israelis responsible for the utterly dysfunctional nature of the Arab world.

Palestinians are an integral part of this dysfunctional world, and their politics reflect, in a heightened sense, the problems the rest of the world seeks to avoid discussing for fear of being denounced as politically incorrect.

Israel is a very small country packed with immensely talented people.

Their story is a gift to the Arab-Muslim world as it is to be found in the Qur'an if only Arabs and Muslims understood either.

 

[JStone]

You surrendered your society, loser.

Israel started a war with the Palestinians a hundred years ago. That war has not been won. The first step in all the so called peace talks has been for the Palestinians to surrender and disarm. The Palestinians have not done that. Those fake peace talks have always failed.

Salim Mansur: Don't Blame Israel for Arab FailuresDon't blame Israel for Arab failures | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun

"Palestinians Are An Integral Part Of This Dysfunctional Arab World"

Israel is merely a dot relative to the Arab world, and yet made responsible, in the logic of the anti-Zionist bigots, for the problems of the Middle East and the inability of the Arab-Muslim culture to deal with the challenges of the modern world.

Consider the following: The Arab world, excluding Iran and Turkey, is comprised of 22 countries stretching from the Gulf to the Atlantic Ocean with a total area around 13 million sq. km and a population of nearly 350 million. In terms of territorial size, only Russia is larger than the Arab world at 17 million sq. km.

Israel is barely 22,000 sq. km, or about three times the size of New York City, with a population of 7.5 million of which 20% are Israeli Arabs.

An objective consideration of the huge disparity in size and population between the Arab world and Israel should dispel the drivel the world has been fed that Arabs are the "underdog" in a colonial struggle against Jews as a colonizing people.

The reverse disparity between Israelis and Arabs is the tremendous human achievement of the former as free people, and the contrast when measured against the sullen reality of the Arab world just about at the bottom of the UN human development index despite the resources available.

But here, too, Arabs, Muslims and their apologists in the West will fault Israelis for the collective failure of the Arab world.

It is as if the plight of Palestinian "occupation" by Israelis explains the Sudanese civil wars and genocide in Darfur, or the savage killings inside Algeria, or the long list of atrocities, gender oppression, humiliation of religious minorities, wars, military dictatorships, and with no end in sight of violence and murder in the name of Islam across the Arab world.

It is sheer absurdity to hold Israelis responsible for the utterly dysfunctional nature of the Arab world.

Palestinians are an integral part of this dysfunctional world, and their politics reflect, in a heightened sense, the problems the rest of the world seeks to avoid discussing for fear of being denounced as politically incorrect.

Israel is a very small country packed with immensely talented people.

Their story is a gift to the Arab-Muslim world as it is to be found in the Qur'an if only Arabs and Muslims understood either.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Military occupation of a nation that never existed?

Your terrorist buddies might have their own nation, if Arafat wasn't too busy taking it up the ass to accept an Israeli offer.
Instead, they have nothing and fire rockets at school buses.
You must be so proud.

Israel has nothing to give.

Besides, Arafat sold out. He sold the Palestinians down the river when he signed on to Oslo. He couldn't get the Palestinians on board with that farce.

No map of "Palestine" when it was a nation?

These borders have not changed. This is Palestine in its current borders.

 

[JStone]

Israel has nothing to give.

Besides, Arafat sold out. He sold the Palestinians down the river when he signed on to Oslo. He couldn't get the Palestinians on board with that farce.

No map of "Palestine" when it was a nation?

These borders have not changed. This is Palestine in its current borders.

Bogus map. The Romans called Israel "Palestine" during the Roman Empire.

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University, Diploma in Theology, Oxford University...

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish messiah] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Bogus map.

dartmouth.edu is bogus?

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~gov46/pal-transjrdn-1922.gif

 

[JStone]

Bogus map.

dartmouth.edu is bogus?

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~gov46/pal-transjrdn-1922.gif

No reputational points for you, loser

PBS...

Specializing in the history of early Christianity, Paula Fredriksen is author of two books and over a dozen articles on early Christianity. Among her numerous awards and honors are a National Endowment for the Humanities grant for University Professors and a Lady Davis Visiting Professorship of Ancient Christianity at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Her second book, From Jesus to Christ: The Origins of the New Testament Images of Jesus, received the Yale Press Governors' Award for Best Book in 1988. Fredriksen holds a Ph.D. in history of religions, ancient christianity, and Greco-Roman religions from Princeton University and a theology diploma from Oxford University. She served as historical consultant for the BBC production The Lives of Jesus and was a featured speaker and historical consultant for U.S. News and World Report's "The Life and Times of Jesus."
Biographies | From Jesus To Christ - The First Christians | FRONTLINE | PBS

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University, Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish messiah] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.

 

[Sugarhitman]

Where does it show on that map that "Palestine" was controlled by "Palestinians"? It doesnt. LOL!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Where does it show on that map that "Palestine" was controlled by "Palestinians"? It doesnt. LOL!

The British violated the League of Nations charter and the rights of the Palestinians.

A violation of rights does not negate those rights.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel has nothing to give.

Besides, Arafat sold out. He sold the Palestinians down the river when he signed on to Oslo. He couldn't get the Palestinians on board with that farce.

No map of "Palestine" when it was a nation?

These borders have not changed. This is Palestine in its current borders.

Palestine has never been a nation. Not in 1922 and not now.