Israel on Sunday confiscated nearly 1,000 acres of privately owned Palestinian land near an Israeli

[Roudy]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

How about you produce some evidence then, as your last 100 attempts failed completely ?

Failed what? Facts don't pass or fail. They are just facts.

Not our fault you are delusional.

 

[Roudy]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Correct and they were invited to migrate and settle by the Ottoman rulers, why did you miss this out of your RACIST ATTACK

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants wereAshkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
quoting
a wiki page is now a racist attack ? LOL bunter

Great job proving that Jews maintained a presence in their holy land throughout the mellenia.

 

[Roudy]

Fuck Israel!


That country should be barbecued with nuclear weapons.

^^^^^^
Dildo Bill the convert to Islam having a nervous breakdown.

It's funny how Dildo is rational in one post and the next post he Hulks out. Maybe he needs a woman.

You sure it's a woman Dildo needs?

 

[eots]

The Israeli Regime of Nut&Yahoo and his fascist Right Wing Gang is again Stealing Land from unarmed oppressed Palestinian civilians against all norms of war in todays world...The Fascists who really run the Right Wing Gang came to Israel from Mother Russia which too steals land with impunity! Its always like this with Fascists, I'm just ashamed that my American taxes have supported a state that has attacked all its neighbors in pursuit of ME military dominance...Iran with hidden nukes, Saudi Arabia on the Jihadist hit list defending it waning influence as fires are spreading all over as Populism via Islam is overthrowing Western influenced governments...

When the dust clears Israel will be in danger because above all she has wanted an East/West war; in the next generation she will get her wish if she doesn't accept a two state solution and give back what she stole beyond the Green-Line in nineteen sixty seven Land- Grab!


Israel confiscates nearly 1 000 acres of Palestinian land in the West Bank Al Jazeera America
Israel on Sunday confiscated nearly 1,000 acres of privately owned Palestinian land near an Israeli settlement south of Bethlehem in the West Bank — a move described by Israeli rights group Peace Now as “unprecedented in its scope since the 1980s."

Settlements built on Palestinian land occupied by Israel, including East Jerusalem, are deemed illegal by the United Nations. Israel’s refusal to halt their construction and expansion has at times arrested the peace process and increased resentment and distrust among Palestinians.

In a statement published on its website, Peace Now condemned the latest land confiscation and said it further damaged the chance of achieving a lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians based on a two-state solution.

The group also said the move ran contrary to the “new diplomatic horizon” that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke of earlier this month, even as Israel and Hamas exchanged blows in a deadly battle that devastated the Gaza Strip.

“Peace Now views this declaration as proof that Prime Minister Netanyahu does not aspire for a new ‘Diplomatic Horizon’ but rather, he continues to put obstacles to the two state vision and promote a one state solution,” the group said.

Later on Sunday, a U.S. State Department official characterized the land confiscation as "counterproductive” and urged Israel to “reverse” its decision.

British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond echoed that call on Monday, saying the move had the potential to reignite violence between the two parties.

"This is a particularly ill-judged decision that comes at a time when the priority must be to build on the cease-fire in Gaza. It will do serious damage to Israel's standing in the international community," Hammond said.

Settlements built on Palestinian land

Palestinian land, what's that?

 

[montelatici]

Of course the Zionist Jews evicted and stole the land from the indigenous Christians and Muslims. They made it clear to the British that they would do so as early as the 1920s.

No they didn't.

Of course they did. They even told the British they planned to do so. This was confirmed in an official communication to the UN, by the UK.

UNITED
NATIONS
A

• 
  General Assembly

A/AC.14/8
2 October 1947

ORIGINAL: ENGLISH
AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION
COMMUNICATION FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM DELEGATION TO
THE UNITED NATIONS

The following letter has been received from the United Kingdom Delegation to the United Nations:

.................................................

"12. Foremost among the exponents of Zionism at that time was Dr. Weizmann. When a Zionist delegation appeared at the Peace Conference in 1919, the American Secretary of State (Mr. Lansing) asked them exactly what was meant by the phrase, a Jewish national home. Dr. Weizmann answered him as follows:-

• 
  “The Zionist organization did not want an autonomous Jewish Government, but merely to establish in Palestine, under a mandatory Power, an administration not necessarily Jewish, which would render it possible to send into Palestine 70 to 80,000 Jews annually. The Zionist Association would require to have permission at the same time to build Jewish schools, where Hebrew would be taught, and in that was to build up gradually a nationality which would be as Jewish as the French nation was French and the British nation British. Later on, when the Jews formed the large majority, they would be ripe to establish such a Government as would answer to the state of the development of the country and to their ideals.”13. The King-Crane Commission, touring Palestine later in the same years, found that the Jewish colonists were similarly looking to a radical transformation of the country:
  • 
    “The fact came out repeatedly in the Commission’s conference with Jewish representatives, that the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, by various forms of purchase.”
    
    A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947

Where does it say anything about wanting to steal land? It says they wanted to purchase land:

"by various forms of purchase"

The use of the word "purchase" in legal English of England does not mean what you think it means it means:

" to acquire (real estate) by means other than descent"

And the evidence shows that the Jewish agency paid for the land many times more than it was worth. So it was PURCHASED in the true sense of the word and not your islamonazi interpretation of English. English is my first language and if you need something explaining then just ask.

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

How about you produce some evidence then, as your last 100 attempts failed completely ?

Failed what? Facts don't pass or fail. They are just facts.

Not our fault you are delusional.

Wow, what a comeback!

 

[montelatici]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Correct and they were invited to migrate and settle by the Ottoman rulers, why did you miss this out of your RACIST ATTACK

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants wereAshkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
quoting
a wiki page is now a racist attack ? LOL bunter

Great job proving that Jews maintained a presence in their holy land throughout the mellenia.

Don't know what a mellenia is, if you mean "millenia" even the Jewish Virtual Library disagrees with you.

"The Romans then destroyed Jerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora Jewish Virtual Library

 

[Billo_Really]

You sure it's a woman Dildo needs?

How bout you? A little pussy like you makes for a perfect woman.

Israel steals land in violation of the 4th Geneva Convention and you act like the problem is me? And the reason you act that way, is because you're a pussy!

So how bout it, bitch? Wanna be my woman?

 

[Stephanie]

It's a harsh world we live in. some win some lose

 

[Billo_Really]

The articles in 1949 called it Jewish land

PROOF that the land was not Palestinian owned indeed.

What articles are you referring to?

 

[Billo_Really]

It was a result of Palestinians murdering 3 Jewish teenagers. They kill, we build.
As a matter of fact, the 'they kill,we build' policy was responsible for many settlements.

ISIL admitted responsibility for the killings and they're supported by the Mossad.

 

[Billo_Really]

Call it what you want. The Palestinians are welcome to try and take land from Israel when one of theirs is killed.

So you're saying, "might makes right".

The Nazis felt the same way you do.

 

[toastman]

It was a result of Palestinians murdering 3 Jewish teenagers. They kill, we build.
As a matter of fact, the 'they kill,we build' policy was responsible for many settlements.

ISIL admitted responsibility for the killings and they're supported by the Mossad.

Suuuuure they are Billo.

I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight?

 

[Billo_Really]

Now claim you are not a NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATER

Nothing I said has anything to do with Judaism.

 

[Billo_Really]

Suuuuure they are Billo.

I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight?

Before I post the link, how do you take your crow?

 

[toastman]

Call it what you want. The Palestinians are welcome to try and take land from Israel when one of theirs is killed.

So you're saying, "might makes right".

The Nazis felt the same way you do.

The Nazis felt the same way you do. They wanted to kill all the Jews just like you did "Barbeque Israel with Nukes"

Remember that you deranged conspiracy theorist ?

 

[toastman]

Suuuuure they are Billo.

I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight?

Before I post the link, how do you take your crow?

Oh I'm sure there are plenty of links that say so. Nut please, go ahead.

 

[Billo_Really]

The Nazis felt the same way you do. They wanted to kill all the Jews just like you did "Barbeque Israel with Nukes"

Remember that you deranged conspiracy theorist ?

The Nazis felt they could acquire territory by force. That is what you're advocating here. Not me.

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh I'm sure there are plenty of links that say so. Nut please, go ahead.

If you knew there were plenty of links, why did you act like it wasn't true?

 

[toastman]

The Nazis felt the same way you do. They wanted to kill all the Jews just like you did "Barbeque Israel with Nukes"

Remember that you deranged conspiracy theorist ?

The Nazis felt they could acquire territory by force. That is what you're advocating here. Not me.

You're the one who said you hope Israel gets nuked, not me.
Also, you are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything you're claiming

 

[toastman]

Oh I'm sure there are plenty of links that say so. Nut please, go ahead.

If you knew there were plenty of links, why did you act like it wasn't true?

I mean that there are plenty of retards on the internet that say so. Does that make it true ??

Your logic seems to be that if it's on the internet, it must be true!

There are also many people who write articles about how the world is flat.

But being the deluded moron that you are, you are gullible and will believe anything you read as long as it says something bad about Israel.