Israel’s bullying in eastern Med is over

[JStone]

The only book I know is the book of the "New Middle East".
Sorry, Israel doesn't have much role in that book.

Yes, it is clear that you only read portions of reality. The portions you don't want to see, you just don't see.

And those parts you don't know by choice.

But I see what Turkey does. Much of the world sees and waits. Yes, there is a large growing Muslim bloc in the UN and they control a great portion of the non powered UN resolutions. (Which mean nothing)

Only a war will change this Veto.

And, it comes....

At some point in a relationship, a party feels hurt and demands an apology, the other party may feel they are not at fault, and ask why they should they apologies?
but if they dont things are not going to get better, you have to ask, what is the outcome they desire? Seems to me the Israeli nation has been held on a constant war footing, by Military guys to hold on to power as they know no other way to deal with the world, they wont say sorry as they may lose face, but they are quite happy to send kids off to war, diplomats they are not

Given your morally and financially bankrupt spain bullies its Muslim population, maybe you ought to focus your attention locally, twat. High levels of discrimination against Muslims in Spain



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[CMike]

It must be enjoying it's alliance with Iran.

 

[JStone]

Get used to it.

Get used to Turkey being a fascist cesspool that is one of the worst human rights violators in the world, including violence against women, and Israel being a beacon of democracy that recognizes human rights and freedom.

US criticizes 'human rights violations' in Turkey

Unlawful killings, poor prison conditions, excessively long trials and limits on freedom of expression are among the alleged human-rights violations in Turkey that the U.S. State Department denounced in a recent report.

“Security forces committed unlawful killings; the number of arrests and prosecutions in these cases was low compared to the number of incidents, and convictions remained rare,” the State Department said late Friday in the section devoted to Turkey in its annual report on the status of human rights throughout the world.

U.S. officials also commented on the recent arrests of Turkish journalists, which came too late to be included in this report, saying they would be monitored and addressed in next year’s survey.

During the year human-rights organizations reported cases of torture, beatings and abuse by security forces. Prison conditions improved but remained poor, with overcrowding and insufficient staff training,” the State Department said in its 2010 human-rights report.

“The overly close relationship between judges and prosecutors continued to hinder the right to a fair trial. Excessively long trials were a problem. The government limited freedom of expression through the use of constitutional restrictions and numerous laws,” the State Department said.

“Press freedom declined during the year. There were limitations on Internet freedom. Courts and an independent board ordered telecommunications providers to block access to Web sites on numerous occasions,” it said in the report. “Violence against women, including honor killings and rape, remained a widespread problem.”

US criticizes 'human rights violations' in Turkey - Hurriyet Daily News

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton...

On behalf of President Obama and the people of the United States, I am delighted to send best wishes to the people of Israel on your 63rd National Day this May 10 – a young nation, but a rich history that holds deep meaning for so many. Your achievements are a testament to your hardworking citizens, innovative economy, and commitment to democratic institutions. Israel has been a beacon of hope and freedom for so many around the world.

Sixty-three years ago the United States was the first country to recognize Israel's independence, and that spirit of kinship continues to guide us today. Our two countries are united by a deep, unshakable friendship and bond. We are bound together by our shared values and history pursuing freedom, equality and democracy. And this relationship is deepening every day. Whether it’s our security partnerships or the expanding economic and trade collaborations – our work together is securing a brighter future for all our people.

As you celebrate your independence, the Middle East is experiencing rapid change. This is a moment of uncertainty, but also of opportunity. The security of Israel is - and will remain - a cornerstone of U.S. foreign policy, and we will continue to strive for a comprehensive peace between Israel and all of its neighbors.

Israel's National Day

 

[ekrem]

Get used to Turkey being a fascist cesspool that is one of the worst human rights violators in the world, including violence against women, and Israel being a beacon of democracy that recognizes human rights and freedom.

Marc, the only thing you deal with are the Palestinians and all of Israel's influence is limited to about 20.000 square kilometers in the Levant..
You tried to convince USA to "keep" Mubarak and you failed doing so. The revolution went through.
What has Israel to offer to stabilize Egypt (most populous country in ME) that produces 1.3 Million nappy-shitters each year? And that risks to become a failed-state controlling Suez channel...

USA is removing from Iraq by year's end and leaves a fragile construct behind that sits on top of vast energy resources on which - at least the south - Iran seeks control.
Once it achieves it, Iran is big boy of Persian Gulf and new era of destabilizing S.Arabia's major oil-producing regions (Shiite population) will begin.

There is "Arab spring" and some countries change by theirselves and some are being changed under its disguise (Lybia-France), all whilst the US is broke, needs assistance and US public isn't in mood for further adventures.
France got 35% of Libya's oil in future Oil-deals for letting the USA "lead from behind".
Le Figaro - Conjoncture : Brut: accord secret entre les rebelles libyens et la France

Next stop is Syria.
What is your (Israel) role in any of this?
So good luck with your US Congress declaring Turkey rogue WMD state for hosting US nuclear bombs in Turkey.

 

[JStone]

Get used to Turkey being a fascist cesspool that is one of the worst human rights violators in the world, including violence against women, and Israel being a beacon of democracy that recognizes human rights and freedom.

Marc, the only thing you deal with are the Palestinians and all of Israel's influence is limited to about 20.000 square kilometers in the Levant..
You tried to convince USA to "keep" Mubarak and you failed doing so. The revolution went through.
What has Israel to offer to stabilize Egypt (most populous country in ME) that produces 1.3 Million nappy-shitters each year? And that risks to become a failed-state controlling Suez channel...

USA is removing from Iraq by year's end and leaves a fragile construct behind that sits on top of vast energy resources on which - at least the south - Iran seeks control.
Once it achieves it, Iran is big boy of Persian Gulf and new era of destabilizing S.Arabia's major oil-producing regions (Shiite population) will begin.

There is "Arab spring" and some countries change by theirselves and some are being changed under its disguise (Lybia-France), all whilst the US is broke, needs assistance and US public isn't in mood for further adventures.

Arab spring

Iran Iraq War, 1 million dead
Lebanese Civil War, 250,000 dead
Algerian Civl War: 300,000 dead
Bangladesh Civil War: 500,000 dead
Black Sept., Jordan's King Hussein murders, expells 80,000 Palestinians
Syrian army kills 20,000 Syrians at Hama
Iraq gases hundreds of thousands of Kurds
1400 year conflict between Sunnis and Shiites
Fratricide between Hamas and Fatah
Syria/Hizballah assassinate Lebanese PM Rafik Hariri

Alexis de Toqueville...

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

 

[JStone]

Get used to Turkey being a fascist cesspool that is one of the worst human rights violators in the world, including violence against women, and Israel being a beacon of democracy that recognizes human rights and freedom.

Marc, the only thing you deal with are the Palestinians and all of Israel's influence is limited to about 20.000 square kilometers in the Levant..
You tried to convince USA to "keep" Mubarak and you failed doing so. The revolution went through.
What has Israel to offer to stabilize Egypt (most populous country in ME) that produces 1.3 Million nappy-shitters each year? And that risks to become a failed-state controlling Suez channel...

USA is removing from Iraq by year's end and leaves a fragile construct behind that sits on top of vast energy resources on which - at least the south - Iran seeks control.
Once it achieves it, Iran is big boy of Persian Gulf and new era of destabilizing S.Arabia's major oil-producing regions (Shiite population) will begin.

There is "Arab spring" and some countries change by theirselves and some are being changed under its disguise (Lybia-France), all whilst the US is broke, needs assistance and US public isn't in mood for further adventures.
France got 35% of Libya's oil in future Oil-deals for letting the USA "lead from behind".
Le Figaro - Conjoncture : Brut: accord secret entre les rebelles libyens et la France

Next stop is Syria.
What is your (Israel) role in any of this?
So good luck with your US Congress declaring Turkey rogue WMD state for hosting US nuclear bombs in Turkey.

Keep buying advanced Israeli military technology and Israel will keep training you Turkish Military Delegation In Israel For Drone Deal - International Middle East Media Center

 

[JStone]

Get used to Turkey being a fascist cesspool that is one of the worst human rights violators in the world, including violence against women, and Israel being a beacon of democracy that recognizes human rights and freedom.

Marc, the only thing you deal with are the Palestinians and all of Israel's influence is limited to about 20.000 square kilometers in the Levant..
You tried to convince USA to "keep" Mubarak and you failed doing so. The revolution went through.
What has Israel to offer to stabilize Egypt (most populous country in ME) that produces 1.3 Million nappy-shitters each year? And that risks to become a failed-state controlling Suez channel...

USA is removing from Iraq by year's end and leaves a fragile construct behind that sits on top of vast energy resources on which - at least the south - Iran seeks control.
Once it achieves it, Iran is big boy of Persian Gulf and new era of destabilizing S.Arabia's major oil-producing regions (Shiite population) will begin.

There is "Arab spring" and some countries change by theirselves and some are being changed under its disguise (Lybia-France), all whilst the US is broke, needs assistance and US public isn't in mood for further adventures.
France got 35% of Libya's oil in future Oil-deals for letting the USA "lead from behind".
Le Figaro - Conjoncture : Brut: accord secret entre les rebelles libyens et la France

Next stop is Syria.
What is your (Israel) role in any of this?
So good luck with your US Congress declaring Turkey rogue WMD state for hosting US nuclear bombs in Turkey.

You love the Rabs now, but, for 400 years of Turkish Ottoman rule, you denied the Rabs independence, controlling the land and only leasing it out for farming, but, the land always reverted back to the Sultanate.

Were it not for the Allies defeating the Ottoman Turks in WW I, there would not be one Arab country today.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How can any country defend itself when it's borders have been reduced?

 

[P F Tinmore]

How can any country defend itself when it's borders have been reduced?

What borders? Israel has no borders.

 

[jillian]

Poor lying freak

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How can any country defend itself when it's borders have been reduced?

What borders? Israel has no borders.

if you want to go that way the U.S. has no right to anything west of Tennesse

 

[P F Tinmore]

How can any country defend itself when it's borders have been reduced?

What borders? Israel has no borders.

if you want to go that way the U.S. has no right to anything west of Tennesse

OK, but Israel has no borders at all.

Even the map says "armistice lines." The armistice lines are specifically not borders.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What borders? Israel has no borders.

if you want to go that way the U.S. has no right to anything west of Tennesse

OK, but Israel has no borders at all.

Even the map says "armistice lines." The armistice lines are specifically not borders.

An armistice line shows where the borders are at the end of a cease fire in the process of peace talks and agreements any land taken by Israel is their's To the victors goes the spoils. It's their borders and it's their land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

if you want to go that way the U.S. has no right to anything west of Tennesse

OK, but Israel has no borders at all.

Even the map says "armistice lines." The armistice lines are specifically not borders.

An armistice line shows where the borders are at the end of a cease fire in the process of peace talks and agreements any land taken by Israel is their's To the victors goes the spoils. It's their borders and it's their land.

Then I question why the armistice agreements specifically stated that the armistice lines are not borders.

If Israel had won any land there would be borders to define the location of that land.

 

[CMike]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffu4aaMWoXk&feature=fvwrel]Turkey Shoot - YouTube[/ame]

 

[CMike]

How can any country defend itself when it's borders have been reduced?

What borders? Israel has no borders.

See the green, red, and yellow? Those makeup the Israeli borders.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Always funny when the smallest country in the region gets accused of bullying.

Must be embarrassing to be those big babies of the Muslim nations. LMAO.

they've got lots of military hardware and technology - courtesy of us.

Good

 

[P F Tinmore]

How can any country defend itself when it's borders have been reduced?

What borders? Israel has no borders.

See the green, red, and yellow? Those makeup the Israeli borders.

According to the UN armistice agreements those are areas of occupation. Those are specifically not borders.

Article V

1. The line described in Article VI of this Agreement shall be designated as the Armistice Demarcation Line and is delineated in pursuance of the purpose and intent of the resolutions of the Security Council of 4 and 16 November 1948.

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary, and is delineated without prejudice to rights, claims and positions of either Party to the Armistice as regards ultimate settlement of the Palestine question.

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

 

[AmericanFirst]

Ankara also declared that it would take all necessary measures to guarantee the freedom of maritime movement in the eastern Mediterranean and announced that it would take the case of the Gaza blockade to the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
Free Article for Non-Members | STRATFOR

Until there is a court ruling, Turkish Navy will ensure safety of maritime traffic to Gaza.

Even the ones that are there, most of them, that are threatening israel. Israel=right, islamic countries=evil.

 

[AmericanFirst]

What borders? Israel has no borders.

See the green, red, and yellow? Those makeup the Israeli borders.

According to the UN armistice agreements those are areas of occupation. Those are specifically not borders.

Article V

1. The line described in Article VI of this Agreement shall be designated as the Armistice Demarcation Line and is delineated in pursuance of the purpose and intent of the resolutions of the Security Council of 4 and 16 November 1948.

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary, and is delineated without prejudice to rights, claims and positions of either Party to the Armistice as regards ultimate settlement of the Palestine question.

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Who cares what the socialist u.n. says? God gave more territory to Israel than what they got today. If they took back every land God gave them, Jordan wouldn't exist, and a good part of other muslim countries