Israel's Legal Right To Exist

[MJB12741]

Will do. But how your Muslim archbishop doing.

He's now conducting a Catechism.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Did the Jews declare independence on all the lands granted to them for their national home at the same time

Nobody gave the Jews any land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Did arab league forces invade the former mandate of palestine at the same time

They did not attack Palestine.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

You forgot to quote the passages.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

 

[Phoenall]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

You forgot to quote the passages.

NO you forgot to ask for it, so you lose again

By the way they have been given thousands of times and you have just ignored them every time

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

You forgot to quote the passages.

NO you forgot to ask for it, so you lose again

By the way they have been given thousands of times and you have just ignored them every time

Your standard duck.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

You forgot to quote the passages.

NO you forgot to ask for it, so you lose again

By the way they have been given thousands of times and you have just ignored them every time

Your standard duck.

How is it a duck when it answers your question in full. not my fault you delete those posts rather than read them and be educated. You are the one that ducks all the time when you bring up the same of topic video's

 

[MJB12741]

Are you denying that the arab muslims reneged on an agreement made

What agreement did the Palestinians make that they reneged on?

That the Jews could have 22% of palestine for their National home, then they reneged on Oslo 1 and 2

You forgot to quote the passages.

NO you forgot to ask for it, so you lose again

By the way they have been given thousands of times and you have just ignored them every time

Your standard duck.

What legal rights do the Palestinians have to the land they stole?

 

[montelatici]

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

 

[Shusha]

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the foreword to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

 

[Hollie]

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

Actually, the land area you incorrectly believe to be the "country of Pal'istan" was controlled by the Ottoman's, not your invented Pal'istanians in your invented country of Pal'istan".

The land area was later ceded to the Brits. Your invented Pal'istanians in your invented "country of Pal'istan" never owned the land. As we know from the Ottoman land records, foreigners actually owned much of the land area of your imagined "country of Pal'istan"

 

[montelatici]

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

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Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the forward to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

Actually, the land area you incorrectly believe to be the "country of Pal'istan" was controlled by the Ottoman's, not your invented Pal'istanians in your invented country of Pal'istan".

The land area was later ceded to the Brits. Your invented Pal'istanians in your invented "country of Pal'istan" never owned the land. As we know from the Ottoman land records, foreigners actually owned much of the land area of your imagined "country of Pal'istan"

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

View attachment 102179


Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the forward to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

UN Resolution A/363 which examined the land registry data contained in the Survey and elsewhere clarified that the Arab population only owned 85% of the land. Extrapolating from the Survey table it can be determined that 9% of the land was owned by non-Jews that did not make up part of the Arab population of Palestine. This fact is difficult to accept after decades of brainwashing, but that is the fact. In any event, what incentive would the drafters of the partition resolution, who were promoters that were driven to establish a Jewish state, have had to understate Jewish ownership of land or overstate the Arab population's ownership? It boggles the mind how you people try to dodge the facts.

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. The provisions of the land transfer regulations of 1940, which gave effect to the 1939 White Paper policy, have severely restricted the Jewish efforts to acquire new land."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

 

[MJB12741]

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

View attachment 102179


Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the foreword to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

View attachment 102179


Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the foreword to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

Shh! Don,t tell him.

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

View attachment 102179


Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the foreword to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

Please don't irritate him with the truth or we may lose him on this board. What fun he is to play with.

 

[Hollie]

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

View attachment 102179


Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the forward to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

Actually, the land area you incorrectly believe to be the "country of Pal'istan" was controlled by the Ottoman's, not your invented Pal'istanians in your invented country of Pal'istan".

The land area was later ceded to the Brits. Your invented Pal'istanians in your invented "country of Pal'istan" never owned the land. As we know from the Ottoman land records, foreigners actually owned much of the land area of your imagined "country of Pal'istan"

The land was owned by the Palestinian Arabs and stolen by the Jews, since they only owned 6% of the land before partition.

You are beginning to sound like this:

View attachment 102179


Posting the same table, over and over, which has already been shown not to say what you think it says isn't furthering your argument. Especially when the forward to your table explains that the the column "Arabs and other non-Jews" includes everything not privately owned by Jews. Its the total land area of "Palestine" minus the privately owned Jewish land. Claiming that 16 million dunums of uncultivated and uncultivable land in the wilderness and desert is privately owned by Arab residents of Palestine is ridiculous. Claiming that there was virtually no state land is ridiculous. Claiming that there were no foreign Arab owners of land is ridiculous.

UN Resolution A/363 which examined the land registry data contained in the Survey and elsewhere clarified that the Arab population only owned 85% of the land. Extrapolating from the Survey table it can be determined that 9% of the land was owned by non-Jews that did not make up part of the Arab population of Palestine. This fact is difficult to accept after decades of brainwashing, but that is the fact. In any event, what incentive would the drafters of the partition resolution, who were promoters that were driven to establish a Jewish state, have had to understate Jewish ownership of land or overstate the Arab population's ownership? It boggles the mind how you people try to dodge the facts.

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. The provisions of the land transfer regulations of 1940, which gave effect to the 1939 White Paper policy, have severely restricted the Jewish efforts to acquire new land."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

You're subjective re-writing of the historical data is not necessary when we have the Ottoman land records.

The Ottoman land records refute your re-writing of the facts.

 

[montelatici]

Verbatim text from the A/364 Resolution and the Survey is not subjective, it is objective fact.

The Ottoman land records refute nothing. How could they, the Ottomans were long gone when the Jews began buying land in earnest in Palestine.

In any case, Turkish (post-Ottoman) land registry data was used to baseline land ownership up to 1917, when the British conquered Palestine.

 

[Hollie]

Verbatim text from the A/364 Resolution and the Survey is not subjective, it is objective fact.

The Ottoman land records refute nothing. How could they, the Ottomans were long gone when the Jews began buying land in earnest in Palestine.

In any case, Turkish (post-Ottoman) land registry data was used to baseline land ownership up to 1917, when the British conquered Palestine.

Actually, the Ottoman Iand records refute your article. We know that foreign absentee Iand owners controlled large portions of your invented "country of Pal'istan" and that much of the land area was kept as an islamo-waqf.

You need to find some new articles to cut and paste.

 

[montelatici]

Verbatim text from the A/364 Resolution and the Survey is not subjective, it is objective fact.

The Ottoman land records refute nothing. How could they, the Ottomans were long gone when the Jews began buying land in earnest in Palestine.

In any case, Turkish (post-Ottoman) land registry data was used to baseline land ownership up to 1917, when the British conquered Palestine.

Actually, the Ottoman Iand records refute your article. We know that foreign absentee Iand owners controlled large portions of your invented "country of Pal'istan" and that much of the land area was kept as an islamo-waqf.

You need to find some new articles to cut and paste.

The Ottoman records confirm that prior to 1917 more than at least 90% of the land in Palestine was owned by the Muslim and Christian inhabitants of Palestine. This was the baseline used to prepare the Survey and Resolution A/364 which confirm the fact.

In any case, the Ottoman records would have no data post 1917, how could the Ottoman records refute Resolution A/364 of 1947 or the Survey completed in 1946? The definitive statement of the resolution is below:

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3