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Israel's Wars...

Peeballs is getting desperate. He runs away from arguments in other threads, then creates a thread that he has posted so many times ! Pretty sad indeed

How many IDF troops were in Iraq?

There were some, but only in the planning.

link ?

But she recounts one incident in which she helped escort a group of half a dozen Israelis, including several generals, from the first floor reception area to Feith's office. ''We just followed them, because they knew exactly where they were going and moving fast''.

When the group arrived, she noted the book which all visitors are required to sign under special regulations that took effect after the Sep. 11, 2001 attacks. ''I asked his secretary, 'Do you want these guys to sign in'? She said, 'No, these guys don't have to sign in' ''. It occurred to her, she said, that the office may have deliberately not wanted to maintain a record of the meeting.

Pentagon Office Home to Neo-Con Network
 
bahaaha what a bogus site. Not surprised however Tinnie, you always post crappy sites that have no credit
 
Peeballs is getting desperate. He runs away from arguments in other threads, then creates a thread that he has posted so many times ! Pretty sad indeed

How many IDF troops were in Iraq?

I don't run from anything...direct me to the thread you refer and I'll glady answer. When it comes to debate you are Toast and I'm a Flamethrower!

That stupid thread you started about ethnic cleaning in Fakestine. I showed you a link to the offer Olmert made to Abbas, and you ran away like the coward that you are. I even called you out. Go have a look SS Peeballs

The offer Olmert made to Abbas has been posted many times by me and there is never a response. Consider the source :eusa_angel:
 
proudveteran06, toastman, pbel, et al,

What happened, or didn't happen really makes no difference today.

I don't run from anything...direct me to the thread you refer and I'll glady answer. When it comes to debate you are Toast and I'm a Flamethrower!
That stupid thread you started about ethnic cleaning in Fakestine. I showed you a link to the offer Olmert made to Abbas, and you ran away like the coward that you are. I even called you out. Go have a look SS Peeballs

The offer Olmert made to Abbas has been posted many times by me and there is never a response. Consider the source :eusa_angel:
(COMMENT)

There are al manner of histories pertaining to this offer, just as there are all manner of perspectives on the Two-State solution.

Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer said:
"I found Abbas to be a fair partner, opposed to terror," said Olmert. "What happened? That is the question of all questions, which I would answer if I could. I hope that the State of Israel will put at the top of its agenda the fact that there was a peace proposal offered by a legitimate government... It's time the international community demand an answer from the Palestinians instead of arguing about a building here and a building there."

SOURCES: Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
In his address to the United Nations last month, current Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reminded the audience of Olmert’s concessions to Abbas, saying Abbas “didn’t even respond.” He called on Abbas “to stop negotiating about the negotiations. Let’s just get on with it. Let’s negotiate peace!”

SOURCE: Rice Reveals: Olmert Offered Abbas 94% - Middle East - News - Israel National News

What really matters is what we do tomorrow. There is no single leadership for the Palestinian people or their cause. From inside the Palestinian Movement, it is an internal struggle between the various power brokers. It is not about peace or for the good of the people. It is about power and influence. If it were about the Palestinian People, for what is right, and in the best interest of those that suffer the most, the Palestinian Movement would already have a country, an economy, and a thriving culture; the same as Israel has.

It is up to Israel to be the leader, and to build a nation of commerce and prosperity for the Palestinian people and take their support away from a false leadership. But it will be a very hard road to hoe. It must be the case that the Israelis become more benevolent to the Palestinians than their own leadership.

Most Respectfully,
R
R
 
proudveteran06, toastman, pbel, et al,

What happened, or didn't happen really makes no difference today.

That stupid thread you started about ethnic cleaning in Fakestine. I showed you a link to the offer Olmert made to Abbas, and you ran away like the coward that you are. I even called you out. Go have a look SS Peeballs

The offer Olmert made to Abbas has been posted many times by me and there is never a response. Consider the source :eusa_angel:
(COMMENT)

There are al manner of histories pertaining to this offer, just as there are all manner of perspectives on the Two-State solution.

Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer said:
"I found Abbas to be a fair partner, opposed to terror," said Olmert. "What happened? That is the question of all questions, which I would answer if I could. I hope that the State of Israel will put at the top of its agenda the fact that there was a peace proposal offered by a legitimate government... It's time the international community demand an answer from the Palestinians instead of arguing about a building here and a building there."

SOURCES: Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
In his address to the United Nations last month, current Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reminded the audience of Olmert’s concessions to Abbas, saying Abbas “didn’t even respond.” He called on Abbas “to stop negotiating about the negotiations. Let’s just get on with it. Let’s negotiate peace!”

SOURCE: Rice Reveals: Olmert Offered Abbas 94% - Middle East - News - Israel National News

What really matters is what we do tomorrow. There is no single leadership for the Palestinian people or their cause. From inside the Palestinian Movement, it is an internal struggle between the various power brokers. It is not about peace or for the good of the people. It is about power and influence. If it were about the Palestinian People, for what is right, and in the best interest of those that suffer the most, the Palestinian Movement would already have a country, an economy, and a thriving culture; the same as Israel has.

It is up to Israel to be the leader, and to build a nation of commerce and prosperity for the Palestinian people and take their support away from a false leadership. But it will be a very hard road to hoe. It must be the case that the Israelis become more benevolent to the Palestinians than their own leadership.

Most Respectfully,
R
R

What, exactly, was in that peace offer?
 
proudveteran06, toastman, pbel, et al,

What happened, or didn't happen really makes no difference today.

That stupid thread you started about ethnic cleaning in Fakestine. I showed you a link to the offer Olmert made to Abbas, and you ran away like the coward that you are. I even called you out. Go have a look SS Peeballs

The offer Olmert made to Abbas has been posted many times by me and there is never a response. Consider the source :eusa_angel:
(COMMENT)

There are al manner of histories pertaining to this offer, just as there are all manner of perspectives on the Two-State solution.

Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer said:
"I found Abbas to be a fair partner, opposed to terror," said Olmert. "What happened? That is the question of all questions, which I would answer if I could. I hope that the State of Israel will put at the top of its agenda the fact that there was a peace proposal offered by a legitimate government... It's time the international community demand an answer from the Palestinians instead of arguing about a building here and a building there."

SOURCES: Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
In his address to the United Nations last month, current Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reminded the audience of Olmert’s concessions to Abbas, saying Abbas “didn’t even respond.” He called on Abbas “to stop negotiating about the negotiations. Let’s just get on with it. Let’s negotiate peace!”

SOURCE: Rice Reveals: Olmert Offered Abbas 94% - Middle East - News - Israel National News

What really matters is what we do tomorrow. There is no single leadership for the Palestinian people or their cause. From inside the Palestinian Movement, it is an internal struggle between the various power brokers. It is not about peace or for the good of the people. It is about power and influence. If it were about the Palestinian People, for what is right, and in the best interest of those that suffer the most, the Palestinian Movement would already have a country, an economy, and a thriving culture; the same as Israel has.

It is up to Israel to be the leader, and to build a nation of commerce and prosperity for the Palestinian people and take their support away from a false leadership. But it will be a very hard road to hoe. It must be the case that the Israelis become more benevolent to the Palestinians than their own leadership.

Most Respectfully,
R
R



This is why there will never be a " Palestinian State" It has nothing to do with Israel


Abbas Makes It Official: All of Israel is Palestine

The Fatah party, headed by Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and adopts a new logo: All of Israel as Palestine.


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By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 9:09 AM




Abbas with map of 'Palestine'Palestine' in background

Israel news photo: Flash 90



The Fatah party, headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, has made official what it has been saying quietly and has adopted a new logo showing all of Israel as Palestine.

The logo marks the 48th anniversary of the founding of Fatah by Yasser Arafat and includes a map with the PA flag and a map of Israel that appears to be a depiction of the black and white checkered kefiyah, a symbol of the violent intifada, and the slogan “the state and victory."

Palestine Media Watch (PMW) revealed that the official PA daily published the new official logo.

For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has placed the map on its logo.

PMW noted, “Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel.”

The Arab media watchdog translated and published the article announcing the new logo:

"Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution.

“Rabah explained to Ma'an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few….

“The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo... [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan 'the state and the victory.'"

The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) reacted to the new logo by urging “President Barack Obama, the European Union and the United Nations to condemn this outrage which reiterates the clear fact that Abbas and the Fatah/PA have no interest in peace with Israel, only its destruction.”


ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said, "This new Fatah logo graphically depicts the ugly truth about this unreconstructed terrorist organization whose Constitution to this day calls for the destruction of Israel (Article 13) and the use of terrorism as an essential element in the struggle to achieve this aim (Article 19). …It belies the fiction that Mahmoud Abbas is a 'moderate' who seeks peace with Israel, and who wishes to end Palestinian terrorism against Israeli Jews. It also makes clear that the principles of Yasser Arafat are respected and promoted.


"The new Fatah logo is not an aberration. The Palestinian Authority continues to promote the incitement of hatred in Palestinian mosques, schools and media.


http://Click here: Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News
 
proudveteran06, toastman, pbel, et al,

What happened, or didn't happen really makes no difference today.

The offer Olmert made to Abbas has been posted many times by me and there is never a response. Consider the source :eusa_angel:
(COMMENT)

There are al manner of histories pertaining to this offer, just as there are all manner of perspectives on the Two-State solution.

Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer said:
"I found Abbas to be a fair partner, opposed to terror," said Olmert. "What happened? That is the question of all questions, which I would answer if I could. I hope that the State of Israel will put at the top of its agenda the fact that there was a peace proposal offered by a legitimate government... It's time the international community demand an answer from the Palestinians instead of arguing about a building here and a building there."

SOURCES: Olmert: Abbas never responded to my peace offer - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

What really matters is what we do tomorrow. There is no single leadership for the Palestinian people or their cause. From inside the Palestinian Movement, it is an internal struggle between the various power brokers. It is not about peace or for the good of the people. It is about power and influence. If it were about the Palestinian People, for what is right, and in the best interest of those that suffer the most, the Palestinian Movement would already have a country, an economy, and a thriving culture; the same as Israel has.

It is up to Israel to be the leader, and to build a nation of commerce and prosperity for the Palestinian people and take their support away from a false leadership. But it will be a very hard road to hoe. It must be the case that the Israelis become more benevolent to the Palestinians than their own leadership.

Most Respectfully,
R
R



This is why there will never be a " Palestinian State" It has nothing to do with Israel


Abbas Makes It Official: All of Israel is Palestine

The Fatah party, headed by Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and adopts a new logo: All of Israel as Palestine.


AAFont Size
By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 9:09 AM




Abbas with map of 'Palestine'Palestine' in background

Israel news photo: Flash 90



The Fatah party, headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, has made official what it has been saying quietly and has adopted a new logo showing all of Israel as Palestine.

The logo marks the 48th anniversary of the founding of Fatah by Yasser Arafat and includes a map with the PA flag and a map of Israel that appears to be a depiction of the black and white checkered kefiyah, a symbol of the violent intifada, and the slogan “the state and victory."

Palestine Media Watch (PMW) revealed that the official PA daily published the new official logo.

For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has placed the map on its logo.

PMW noted, “Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel.”

The Arab media watchdog translated and published the article announcing the new logo:

"Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution.

“Rabah explained to Ma'an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few….

“The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo... [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan 'the state and the victory.'"

The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) reacted to the new logo by urging “President Barack Obama, the European Union and the United Nations to condemn this outrage which reiterates the clear fact that Abbas and the Fatah/PA have no interest in peace with Israel, only its destruction.”


ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said, "This new Fatah logo graphically depicts the ugly truth about this unreconstructed terrorist organization whose Constitution to this day calls for the destruction of Israel (Article 13) and the use of terrorism as an essential element in the struggle to achieve this aim (Article 19). …It belies the fiction that Mahmoud Abbas is a 'moderate' who seeks peace with Israel, and who wishes to end Palestinian terrorism against Israeli Jews. It also makes clear that the principles of Yasser Arafat are respected and promoted.


"The new Fatah logo is not an aberration. The Palestinian Authority continues to promote the incitement of hatred in Palestinian mosques, schools and media.


http://Click here: Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

The new Fatah logo is not an aberration.

It merely shows Palestine inside its current international borders.

Why should that be a problem?
 
proudveteran06, toastman, pbel, et al,

What happened, or didn't happen really makes no difference today.


(COMMENT)

There are al manner of histories pertaining to this offer, just as there are all manner of perspectives on the Two-State solution.



What really matters is what we do tomorrow. There is no single leadership for the Palestinian people or their cause. From inside the Palestinian Movement, it is an internal struggle between the various power brokers. It is not about peace or for the good of the people. It is about power and influence. If it were about the Palestinian People, for what is right, and in the best interest of those that suffer the most, the Palestinian Movement would already have a country, an economy, and a thriving culture; the same as Israel has.

It is up to Israel to be the leader, and to build a nation of commerce and prosperity for the Palestinian people and take their support away from a false leadership. But it will be a very hard road to hoe. It must be the case that the Israelis become more benevolent to the Palestinians than their own leadership.

Most Respectfully,
R
R



This is why there will never be a " Palestinian State" It has nothing to do with Israel


Abbas Makes It Official: All of Israel is Palestine

The Fatah party, headed by Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and adopts a new logo: All of Israel as Palestine.


AAFont Size
By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 9:09 AM




Abbas with map of 'Palestine'Palestine' in background

Israel news photo: Flash 90



The Fatah party, headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, has made official what it has been saying quietly and has adopted a new logo showing all of Israel as Palestine.

The logo marks the 48th anniversary of the founding of Fatah by Yasser Arafat and includes a map with the PA flag and a map of Israel that appears to be a depiction of the black and white checkered kefiyah, a symbol of the violent intifada, and the slogan “the state and victory."

Palestine Media Watch (PMW) revealed that the official PA daily published the new official logo.

For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has placed the map on its logo.

PMW noted, “Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel.”

The Arab media watchdog translated and published the article announcing the new logo:

"Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution.

“Rabah explained to Ma'an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few….

“The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo... [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan 'the state and the victory.'"

The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) reacted to the new logo by urging “President Barack Obama, the European Union and the United Nations to condemn this outrage which reiterates the clear fact that Abbas and the Fatah/PA have no interest in peace with Israel, only its destruction.”


ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said, "This new Fatah logo graphically depicts the ugly truth about this unreconstructed terrorist organization whose Constitution to this day calls for the destruction of Israel (Article 13) and the use of terrorism as an essential element in the struggle to achieve this aim (Article 19). …It belies the fiction that Mahmoud Abbas is a 'moderate' who seeks peace with Israel, and who wishes to end Palestinian terrorism against Israeli Jews. It also makes clear that the principles of Yasser Arafat are respected and promoted.


"The new Fatah logo is not an aberration. The Palestinian Authority continues to promote the incitement of hatred in Palestinian mosques, schools and media.


http://Click here: Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

The new Fatah logo is not an aberration.

It merely shows Palestine inside its current international borders.

Why should that be a problem?

Showing that " Israel is Palestine" inside their " International Borders" is just further proof that their goal is Israel's destruction even if a " Palestinian State" is created ( Which will not happen). I do realize you don't see a problem with that .
 
This is why there will never be a " Palestinian State" It has nothing to do with Israel


Abbas Makes It Official: All of Israel is Palestine

The Fatah party, headed by Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and adopts a new logo: All of Israel as Palestine.


AAFont Size
By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 9:09 AM




Abbas with map of 'Palestine'Palestine' in background

Israel news photo: Flash 90



The Fatah party, headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, has made official what it has been saying quietly and has adopted a new logo showing all of Israel as Palestine.

The logo marks the 48th anniversary of the founding of Fatah by Yasser Arafat and includes a map with the PA flag and a map of Israel that appears to be a depiction of the black and white checkered kefiyah, a symbol of the violent intifada, and the slogan “the state and victory."

Palestine Media Watch (PMW) revealed that the official PA daily published the new official logo.

For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has placed the map on its logo.

PMW noted, “Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel.”

The Arab media watchdog translated and published the article announcing the new logo:

"Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution.

“Rabah explained to Ma'an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few….

“The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo... [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan 'the state and the victory.'"

The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) reacted to the new logo by urging “President Barack Obama, the European Union and the United Nations to condemn this outrage which reiterates the clear fact that Abbas and the Fatah/PA have no interest in peace with Israel, only its destruction.”


ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said, "This new Fatah logo graphically depicts the ugly truth about this unreconstructed terrorist organization whose Constitution to this day calls for the destruction of Israel (Article 13) and the use of terrorism as an essential element in the struggle to achieve this aim (Article 19). …It belies the fiction that Mahmoud Abbas is a 'moderate' who seeks peace with Israel, and who wishes to end Palestinian terrorism against Israeli Jews. It also makes clear that the principles of Yasser Arafat are respected and promoted.


"The new Fatah logo is not an aberration. The Palestinian Authority continues to promote the incitement of hatred in Palestinian mosques, schools and media.


http://Click here: Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

The new Fatah logo is not an aberration.

It merely shows Palestine inside its current international borders.

Why should that be a problem?

Showing that " Israel is Palestine" inside their " International Borders" is just further proof that their goal is Israel's destruction even if a " Palestinian State" is created ( Which will not happen). I do realize you don't see a problem with that .

They don't show that Israel is Palestine.
 
It merely shows Palestine inside its current international borders.

Why should that be a problem?

Showing that " Israel is Palestine" inside their " International Borders" is just further proof that their goal is Israel's destruction even if a " Palestinian State" is created ( Which will not happen). I do realize you don't see a problem with that .

They don't show that Israel is Palestine.

Abbas says so:

Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News
 
Showing that " Israel is Palestine" inside their " International Borders" is just further proof that their goal is Israel's destruction even if a " Palestinian State" is created ( Which will not happen). I do realize you don't see a problem with that .

They don't show that Israel is Palestine.

Abbas says so:

Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

Those are just the current borders. The change in borders is one of the things to be negotiated in the so called peace process.
 
Showing that " Israel is Palestine" inside their " International Borders" is just further proof that their goal is Israel's destruction even if a " Palestinian State" is created ( Which will not happen). I do realize you don't see a problem with that .

They don't show that Israel is Palestine.

Abbas says so:

Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News



For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has placed the map on its logo.

Sorry, but the flag does indicate that ALL of Israel is " Palestine"
 

Those are just the current borders. The change in borders is one of the things to be negotiated in the so called peace process.


Yawn.... There's that word again. " Negotiation" are the 67 Borders that were never accepted, Jews having no rights to E. Jerusalem something Jordan was supposed to have allowed after 1948 but didn't plus " Right of Return?" lol Not going to happen. :cuckoo:
 

Those are just the current borders. The change in borders is one of the things to be negotiated in the so called peace process.


Yawn.... There's that word again. " Negotiation" are the 67 Borders that were never accepted, Jews having no rights to E. Jerusalem something Jordan was supposed to have allowed after 1948 but didn't plus " Right of Return?" lol Not going to happen. :cuckoo:

There are no '67 borders. There never were. That is why Palestine does not put them on their maps.
 

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