JD Vance's pledge to 'abandon' Ukraine a ‘catastrophic mistake’ | William Hague

[krichton]

How many of your loved ones are you willing to sacrifice?

I'm not Ukrainian so I'm not sacrificing anyone, but old weapons gathering dust in storage.

 

[ESay]

I think you have no way of knowing that Putin would be willing to agree to remove cities out of Russian constitution.

Which is exactly why I say that feasability of a peace agreement along current front lines is just a fantasy.

He won't remove them. But he may to agree on some compromising terms. Heck, isn't it you guys who keep telling that this war leads to weakening Russia, economic hardships there and so on. If so, then why Putin wouldn't agree to stop this war?

 

[pknopp]

I'm not Ukrainian so I'm not sacrificing anyone, but old weapons gathering dust in storage.

Odd, you said "all costs". Old weapons gathering dust isn't going to stop anyone.

 

[Litwin]

Reagan would be seen as a far right liberal today

Reagan´d fix Moscow imperialistic, jihadi question in 3 months . 'Breaking up Moscow empire is the only way to end its imperialism', And I don’t mean Putin´s imperialism, but Moscow imperialism in general , from Solzhenitsyn and Brodsky to Yeltsin and Dugin.

Moscow : "I want the Moscow empire with Alaska, Hawaii, California, Finland and Poland. Although Poland and Finland are so stinky,

so they want more this time, Alaska, Hawaii, California, ... you guys (US) are provoking Mongol - Muscovites with your weakness . If they want an land corridor from Alaska to California they also want British Columbia, Washington State and Oregon.... "I want the Moscow empire with Alaska...

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[ESay]

I'm not Ukrainian so I'm not sacrificing anyone, but old weapons gathering dust in storage.

So, all costs have quite small limits. You guys are pathetic.

 

[AntonToo]

He won't remove them. But he may to agree on some compromising terms.

I don't think you fully understand the implications of what you are saying.

He will either remove them from Russian constitution which includes the entirety of 5 administrative regions or there can't be agreement along current front lines.

This is not compromisable even in theory. Both conditions can't be true at the same time.

 

[ESay]

Agreed, Putin needs to be stopped at all costs.

I am more okay with the incompetent Biden administration gets good booting.

 

[ESay]

I don't think you fully understand the implications of what you are saying.

He will either remove them or there can't be agreement along current front lines. Period, end of story.

This war and sanctions are greatly damage Russia. Isn't Putin interested in stopping this war as soon as possible?

 

[Litwin]

Agreed, Putin needs to be stopped at all costs.

+1

Moscow : "I want the Moscow empire with Alaska, Hawaii, California, Finland and Poland. Although Poland and Finland are so stinky,

🇷🇺 SHE DID IT AGAIN...“Adolf Hitler has not said that he wants to march across Europe and invade Poland and other countries.” - Neville Chamberlain, 1938...

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Let's say 2 decades ago pathetic, oriental Muscovite empire wouldn't have dared to openly threaten to invade parts of USA even in their state television. Look at them now. Look how weak MAGA - WOKE Marxists , Far - right/left radicals have already made America. And USA says nothing. No reaction at all. Where is the United States we all knew?

ps
These guys are right on target. The STALIN´S KGB "Church" is the most misunderstood aspect of Muscovy from the American perspective.

 

[krichton]

So, all costs have quite small limits. You guys are pathetic.

If only Hitler had more supporters like you back then.

 

[Mac-7]

There were people in the UK who wanted Hitler to march on the Soviet Union and let them bloody each other. Unfortunately the defenders of communism had their way instead.

That was later in a war that could have been prevented if the Allies had resisted Hitler in 1939

 

[AntonToo]

This war and sanctions are greatly damage Russia. Isn't Putin interested in stopping this war as soon as possible?

From everything we see Putin gives a lot less shit about damaging Russia, than he does about preserving his own neck.

"Kherson forever with Russia" were the slogans Russians hanged up in that city during occupation....apparently forever means a few months.

Putin agreeing to conceed to Ukranians a change to Russian constitution just maybe in his calculation a move that would show a weakness he can't afford for his regime to last much longer. It would show that Russia didn't achieve victory, but a compromise.

And by the way, much of the long term economic damage to Russia is already done and will not be undone untill well after Putin is gone. Even with some sort of peace compromise, it will take a long time for the west to ease sanctions and for Russia to regain enough trust of western bussness for them to resume long term investments.

 

[Litwin]

I doubt if Vance used the word "abandon".

I can´t get it out of my mind, can you explain this ?

 

[Litwin]

if the Allies had resisted Hitler in 1939

+1,
The leading US historian, Timothy Snyder in Tallinn :
We are in 1938 now. If Czechs had resisted National - Socialist Germany at the time, there would have been no WWII.

The leading US historian, Timothy Snyder: We are in 1938 now. If Czechs had resisted Nazi Germany at the time, there would have been no WWII.

Snyder is phenomenal, whole lotta respect! Love his books still , do you agree with The leading US historian, Timothy Snyder? German–Soviet military parade in Belarusian old city Brest-Litovsk, 1939 Brothers in arms, Joseph and Adolf.... Joseph is still very popular in Moscow 🇷🇺🐽🇷🇺empire...

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Brothers in arms, Joseph and Adolf.... Joseph is still very popular in Moscow empire . a bit scary, not?

 

[whitehall]

You never hear anything from VP Harris. She was delegated with the responsibility of the border crisis but she never even went to the area. What's her opinion on Ukraine? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Beware of foreign left wing radicals who would use left wing propaganda to interfere with the U.S. political process.

 

[Litwin]

You never hear anything from VP Harris. She was delegated with the responsibility of the border crisis but she never even went to the area. What's her opinion on Ukraine? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Beware of foreign left wing radicals who would use left wing propaganda to interfere with the U.S. political process.

one for sure:
JD Vance: Weak on policy.
Strong on eyeliner.

 

[Mac-7]

+1,
The leading US historian, Timothy Snyder in Tallinn :
We are in 1938 now. If Czechs had resisted National - Socialist Germany at the time, there would have been no WWII.

The leading US historian, Timothy Snyder: We are in 1938 now. If Czechs had resisted Nazi Germany at the time, there would have been no WWII.

Snyder is phenomenal, whole lotta respect! Love his books still , do you agree with The leading US historian, Timothy Snyder? German–Soviet military parade in Belarusian old city Brest-Litovsk, 1939 Brothers in arms, Joseph and Adolf.... Joseph is still very popular in Moscow 🇷🇺🐽🇷🇺empire...

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Brothers in arms, Joseph and Adolf.... Joseph is still very popular in Moscow empire . a bit scary, not?

Your link is saying the same thing I was saying even though I misremembered the date of the Munich Agreement by a few months

The German general staff were prepared to back down if the Allied intervened on the side of the Czechs

Obama and Biden caused the invasion of ukraine in my opinion

 

[whitehall]

one for sure:
JD Vance: Weak on policy.
Strong on eyeliner.

Biden is president and Harris is V.P. and Biden's crack head son might be in charge of foreign policy. Take on the freaking current administration before you dabble in the American electoral system.

 

[sparky]

well Lit......

here's you're chance to state why Ukraine is a better ally that Russia

have at it lad......

~S~

 

[Orangecat]

I dont care, you are a marginal and you´ll be treated (by me, AND ALL other FREE MEN ) as a such .

Three in four Americans say U.S. should support Ukraine despite MOSCOW threats, Reuters/Ipsos poll shows

TERRIBLE NEWS FOR POOTLER´S CUCKOLDS ! God Bless American nation! Long Live the USA, Long Live THE LIBERAL ORDER ! DEATH TO THE DESPOTIC , BARBARIC , ORIENTAL IMPERIALISM ! https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-four-americans-say-us-should-support-ukraine-despite-russian-threats-2022-10-05/

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Lol. No need to be a jackass, kid. You’re the one begging for my tax dollars because your side can’t effectively defend itself from a shit country like Russia.