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You simply have no clue about what faith is.
True as in make sense? Sure.
Things like this that destroys your notions of Jesus and his sacrifice to himself.
Ezekiel 18:20
The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Regards
DL
So it has to make sense to you to be true. I see. You've put yourself in quite a lofty position.
Should I, like you, believe in things that do not make sense?
Regards
DL
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Once again, you demonstrate your failure to understand faith. Do I need to link to a definition?
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Why don't you give us an example there, skippy? I want to see an example of the real actions based on irrational religious beliefs that are affecting others.
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Why don't you give us an example there, skippy? I want to see an example of the real actions based on irrational religious beliefs that are affecting others.
My pleasure.
It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are Religionists.
They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Belief in fantasy is evil.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClUCw4&feature=PlayList&p=5123864A5243470E&index=0&playnext=1"]Religulous [part 1] - YouTube[/ame]
They also do much harm to their own.
African witches and Jesus
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related"]In The name Of Jesus: Child Witches (1 of 2) - YouTube[/ame]
Jesus Camp 1of 9
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv8tv62yGM"]Jesus Camp 1of 9.flv - YouTube[/ame]
Promoting death to Gays.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related"]Rachel Maddow interviews David Bahati - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]
For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.
Oops, you are one of the evil ones.
Regards
DL
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Why don't you give us an example there, skippy? I want to see an example of the real actions based on irrational religious beliefs that are affecting others.
My pleasure.
It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are Religionists.
They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Belief in fantasy is evil.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClUCw4&feature=PlayList&p=5123864A5243470E&index=0&playnext=1"]Religulous [part 1] - YouTube[/ame]
They also do much harm to their own.
African witches and Jesus
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related"]In The name Of Jesus: Child Witches (1 of 2) - YouTube[/ame]
Jesus Camp 1of 9
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv8tv62yGM"]Jesus Camp 1of 9.flv - YouTube[/ame]
Promoting death to Gays.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related"]Rachel Maddow interviews David Bahati - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]
For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.
Oops, you are one of the evil ones.
Regards
DL
You really think these people are run of the mill Christians who pose a threat to you?
So it has to make sense to you to be true. I see. You've put yourself in quite a lofty position.
Should I, like you, believe in things that do not make sense?
Regards
DL
I am 100 percent certain you already do.
Tell me..do you think abortion prevents child abuse?
So it has to make sense to you to be true. I see. You've put yourself in quite a lofty position.
Should I, like you, believe in things that do not make sense?
Regards
DL
The spiritual is beyond the senses and the physical. The close minded and non-seeking will not find it by looking to their senses. The Living God is a Spirit.
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You really think these people are run of the mill Christians who pose a threat to you?
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Oh my God, You're a Bill Maher Disciple.
And I'm sure you're less likely to follow blindly than, say, me, who gets to listen to idiots like you proclaim how dumb and brainwashed Christians are about a hundred times a day.
Tell me..why is it that atheists feel it's so important to ridicule the beliefs of Christians?
I know that one.
It's because they're not afraid we're wrong, it's because they're afraid we're right -- and they can't tolerate the idea of a power higher than themselves.
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You really think these people are run of the mill Christians who pose a threat to you?
This is not about you or me.
Thanks for thinking of others.
Let us pray that none of your children or grandchildren are Gay as you would have to hate them.
Oh wait, it is all about you and you wanting to profit from human sacrifice and ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven.
Be ready for a surprise when God sends you to hell for trying to profit from another's death.
Regards
DL
Not only that, he's annoyed by any references to HIS intelligence or HIS belief system...but thinks criticism about the intelligence and belief system of Christians needs to be broadcast without any sort of challenge.
No, we don't.Then why do you insist I prove that which I have faith in?No, I got it,
Faith
1.) Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2.) Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
Did you read that last part? NO PROOF, BY DEFINITION.
Or are we playing The Liberal Didn't Say What He Said?
Ahh, so we ARE playing The Liberal Didn't Say What He Said.
Because Christians believe something that influences their actions, such as trying to tell school boards that evolution should not be taught, or infringing on women's rights to choose, but mostly, because they vote, and usually only for other Christians, which is a huge problem today with the conservative party.Yeah, I'm not seeing a lot of support for Christians voting there. I do see a lot of regret that it's allowed to happen.
I haven't made any assumptions I haven't validated.All I am doing is posting words on an internet forum challenging the basic for your supernatural beliefs. I will fully admit that I do not respect your beliefs, at all, but I respect your right to have them. Don't assume that I don't want you to vote. I want to live in a free country, but with within that freedom, I am allowed to challenge your beliefs, and that is what I am doing. Do not make assumptions you can't substantiate, it's also really annoying!
Has your childish "Neener neener, beleevers are STOOpid!!" act convinced anyone to abandon their faith?
No?
Then you're just masturbating, aren't you?
I don't need to support you in your right to vote. The constitution grants you that, and you don't need me to tell you "its okay." I only need to not try and take it away.
"Because Christians believe something that influences their actions, such as trying to tell school boards that evolution should not be taught, or infringing on women's rights to choose, but mostly, because they vote, and usually only for other Christians, which is a huge problem today with the conservative party."
Yeah... I'm just not seeing it. You're reading into what you want to. All I was saying is, it is irrational, religious beliefs which are translating into real actions that effect others, because I was defending myself against the question of why I attack christians. Here, we have christians trying to undo the first amendment.
Of course you don't say so explicitly.Nowhere do I ever mention, explicitly, that I wish to take away the rights of others to vote.
You hush. They know what's best for everybody, because...because...well, they just do.Then why do you insist I prove that which I have faith in?
Or are we playing The Liberal Didn't Say What He Said?
Ahh, so we ARE playing The Liberal Didn't Say What He Said.
Because Christians believe something that influences their actions, such as trying to tell school boards that evolution should not be taught, or infringing on women's rights to choose, but mostly, because they vote, and usually only for other Christians, which is a huge problem today with the conservative party.Yeah, I'm not seeing a lot of support for Christians voting there. I do see a lot of regret that it's allowed to happen.
I haven't made any assumptions I haven't validated.
Has your childish "Neener neener, beleevers are STOOpid!!" act convinced anyone to abandon their faith?
No?
Then you're just masturbating, aren't you?
I don't need to support you in your right to vote. The constitution grants you that, and you don't need me to tell you "its okay." I only need to not try and take it away.
"Because Christians believe something that influences their actions, such as trying to tell school boards that evolution should not be taught, or infringing on women's rights to choose, but mostly, because they vote, and usually only for other Christians, which is a huge problem today with the conservative party."
Yeah... I'm just not seeing it. You're reading into what you want to. All I was saying is, it is irrational, religious beliefs which are translating into real actions that effect others, because I was defending myself against the question of why I attack christians. Here, we have christians trying to undo the first amendment. Nowhere do I ever mention, explicitly, that I wish to take away the rights of others to vote.
Yeah, exactly like the irrational utopian socialist beliefs that leftist morons insist on pushing on the rest of us thru government fiat.
Really? I see no mention of the word "imaginary" in the dictionary's definition.[
You simply have no clue about what faith is.
Your founder did.
Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.
Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.
Martin Luther
Faith is belief in imaginary constructs without a shred of evidence.
Regards
DL
Isn't it funny how you, as a Gnostic, completely ignore what Christ had to say about salvation?[q
Once again, you demonstrate your failure to understand faith. Do I need to link to a definition?
No but if you have it, Jesus tells you to use it.
This is how a true Christian shows his faith.
You might note that there is no one here with faith.
If there was, we would all know it.
Matthew 17 :20
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
Mark 16:17-18.
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
There is a small mountain of 16,000 people that will starve today and tomorrow and so on if you do not step up and show your faith.
Unfortunately, there are no true believers.
You might note that there is no one here with faith.
If there was, we would all know it.
Just so you know where your bible was born.
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Regards
DL
Should I, like you, believe in things that do not make sense?
Regards
DL
The spiritual is beyond the senses and the physical. The close minded and non-seeking will not find it by looking to their senses. The Living God is a Spirit.
Yet you do not seek and have settled for idol worshipping your Godinabook.
Regards
DL
Indeed. How sad it must be.And I'm sure you're less likely to follow blindly than, say, me, who gets to listen to idiots like you proclaim how dumb and brainwashed Christians are about a hundred times a day.
Tell me..why is it that atheists feel it's so important to ridicule the beliefs of Christians?
I know that one.
It's because they're not afraid we're wrong, it's because they're afraid we're right -- and they can't tolerate the idea of a power higher than themselves.
Then they may have to be accountable for their selfish ways and change their lifestyle.
Change is difficult for everyone. It's understandable to be afraid.
It takes a real "leap of FAITH" to trust your eternal soul to Jesus Christ.
