It Has Started: Activist Court Rewrites Law

[SassyIrishLass]

Late on Friday night, the Supreme Court blocked California’s public health ban on indoor religious services in a splintered 6–3 decision that augurs a major shift in the law of religious liberty. Justice Elena Kagan’s extraordinary dissent accused her conservative colleagues of endangering lives by overruling public health officials and potentially facilitating the spread of COVID-19. But the court’s new conservative majority ignored her warning—and, in the process, gave itself new powers to strike down alleged burdens on religious freedom. The Supreme Court effectively tossed out decades of case law in a late-night emergency order, unsettling precedent that states have relied upon to craft COVID restrictions. As Kagan sharply noted, Friday’s order “injects uncertainty into an area where uncertainty has human costs.”

Kagan Warns the Supreme Court’s New COVID Decision May Kill People

Keep it up religious nut jobs. You're going to be our best reason to expand the court. And you can bet the farm on it. The court will be expanded to stop religious extremism. The most fundamental reason America was created to begin with.

Courts don't write law, they interput law and make decisions.

Dumbass

 

[OldLady]

With any luck at all, 99.9% of ministers in these critical areas will keep their doors closed and worship on line in order to keep their parishioners safe until the case #'s come down and public health officials give the all clear. Many outbreaks have been tied to church services all over the country. I agree with Kagan on this, all the way. Let's hope it doesn't lead to a slippery slope.

Kagan, joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer, dissented from this order in a blunt opinion highlighting the possibility that her colleagues’ decision will kill people. “Justices of this Court are not scientists,” Kagan began. “Nor do we know much about public health policy. Yet today the Court displaces the judgments of experts about how to respond to a raging pandemic. … That mandate defies our caselaw, exceeds our judicial role, and risks worsening the pandemic.” She pointed out that, contrary to the court’s belief, California has not actually treated churches less favorably than secular businesses and assemblies: Political meetings, lectures, and plays are also banned, she wrote—and these “secular gatherings,” like religious worship, “are constitutionally protected” by the First Amendment. The court simply created “a special exception for worship services.”

“To state the obvious, judges do not know what scientists and public health experts do,” Kagan explained. “So it is alarming that the Court second-guesses the judgments of expert officials, and displaces their conclusions with its own. In the worst public health crisis in a century, this foray into armchair epidemiology cannot end well.”

 

[Desperado]

With any luck at all, 99.9% of ministers in these critical areas will keep their doors closed and worship on line in order to keep their parishioners safe until the case #'s come down and public health officials give the all clear. Many outbreaks have been tied to church services all over the country. I agree with Kagan on this, all the way. Let's hope it doesn't lead to a slippery slope.

Kagan, joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer, dissented from this order in a blunt opinion highlighting the possibility that her colleagues’ decision will kill people. “Justices of this Court are not scientists,” Kagan began. “Nor do we know much about public health policy. Yet today the Court displaces the judgments of experts about how to respond to a raging pandemic. … That mandate defies our caselaw, exceeds our judicial role, and risks worsening the pandemic.” She pointed out that, contrary to the court’s belief, California has not actually treated churches less favorably than secular businesses and assemblies: Political meetings, lectures, and plays are also banned, she wrote—and these “secular gatherings,” like religious worship, “are constitutionally protected” by the First Amendment. The court simply created “a special exception for worship services.”

“To state the obvious, judges do not know what scientists and public health experts do,” Kagan explained. “So it is alarming that the Court second-guesses the judgments of expert officials, and displaces their conclusions with its own. In the worst public health crisis in a century, this foray into armchair epidemiology cannot end well.”

That is fine and dandy... let the individual church decide but not the government. when it come to religion the government should have absolutely no say

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We need to let nature take its course.

I am a huge proponent of Natural Selection.

 

[DukeU]

And what about those "Free" Americans that can become infected with the virus, after coming into contact with one of those entitled assholes, who think their "right" to worship, is above everyone else's "right", to not be infected? Of forced to have to endure their ignorance, because they exercise their "Freedom" from religion?

LOL

If you are wearing your mask and social distancing you're safe right? You are also free to stay at home if you are scared or are vulnerable. But you are not free to suppress my freedoms.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Keep it up religious nut jobs. You're going to be our best reason to expand the court. And you can bet the farm on it. The court will be expanded to stop religious extremism. The most fundamental reason America was created to begin with.

Maybe you need to polish up a bit on your history. Freedom is the fundamental reason America was founded. The courts have no right or authority to undo those freedoms established in our Constitution.

Tell that to Native Americans, African, and Chinese slaves. What a dumbass statement. And right in tune with the entitled asshole mindset. And lets not forget the rights of women. Which according to the good book are subserviants, to the entitled asshole mindset.

Every state has the duty to protect its citizens above everything else. Rights don't mean anything when you're dead. Or enslaved.

And what about those "Free" Americans that can become infected with the virus, after coming into contact with one of those entitled assholes, who think their "right" to worship, is above everyone else's "right", to not be infected? Of forced to have to endure their ignorance, because they exercise their "Freedom" from religion?

So they don't have the same "Freedoms". Is that what you're insinuating?

So in your estimation, burning women to death, or drowning them, because the might be percieved by one of these fundamentalist shit for brains assholes, of being a witch, should be a First Amendment right also, based on this new ruling by the newly packed court?

What other religious atrocities from the old world should we reinstate to accomodate these worhippers "rights"?

Move asshole if you don't like the constitution

 

[DukeU]

But don't spread it among the rest of us.

It's real simple, don't assemble. You have that right.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

And what about those "Free" Americans that can become infected with the virus, after coming into contact with one of those entitled assholes, who think their "right" to worship, is above everyone else's "right", to not be infected? Of forced to have to endure their ignorance, because they exercise their "Freedom" from religion?

LOL

If you are wearing your mask and social distancing you're safe right? You are also free to stay at home if you are scared or are vulnerable. But you are not free to suppress my freedoms.

Oh, no. It's not you protecting yourself. You must wear it to protect OTHERS. See.

And you must NOT carry a gun because it is not safe for OTHERS. Forget yourself. You peon.

It's the ultimate flimflam. This is the biggest hoodwink I have ever witnessed and can now confirm that 99% of the world's population is gullible as fuck.

 

[westwall]

Late on Friday night, the Supreme Court blocked California’s public health ban on indoor religious services in a splintered 6–3 decision that augurs a major shift in the law of religious liberty. Justice Elena Kagan’s extraordinary dissent accused her conservative colleagues of endangering lives by overruling public health officials and potentially facilitating the spread of COVID-19. But the court’s new conservative majority ignored her warning—and, in the process, gave itself new powers to strike down alleged burdens on religious freedom. The Supreme Court effectively tossed out decades of case law in a late-night emergency order, unsettling precedent that states have relied upon to craft COVID restrictions. As Kagan sharply noted, Friday’s order “injects uncertainty into an area where uncertainty has human costs.”

Kagan Warns the Supreme Court’s New COVID Decision May Kill People

Keep it up religious nut jobs. You're going to be our best reason to expand the court. And you can bet the farm on it. The court will be expanded to stop religious extremism. The most fundamental reason America was created to begin with.

What part of the Constitution do you not understand?

 

[9thIDdoc]

Late on Friday night, the Supreme Court blocked California’s public health ban on indoor religious services in a splintered 6–3 decision that augurs a major shift in the law of religious liberty. Justice Elena Kagan’s extraordinary dissent accused her conservative colleagues of endangering lives by overruling public health officials and potentially facilitating the spread of COVID-19. But the court’s new conservative majority ignored her warning—and, in the process, gave itself new powers to strike down alleged burdens on religious freedom. The Supreme Court effectively tossed out decades of case law in a late-night emergency order, unsettling precedent that states have relied upon to craft COVID restrictions. As Kagan sharply noted, Friday’s order “injects uncertainty into an area where uncertainty has human costs.”

Kagan Warns the Supreme Court’s New COVID Decision May Kill People

Keep it up religious nut jobs. You're going to be our best reason to expand the court. And you can bet the farm on it. The court will be expanded to stop religious extremism. The most fundamental reason America was created to begin with.

OP is idiotic. Ca's ban was obviously and deliberately unConstitutional and was all about people control; not healthcare.

 

[OldLady]

With any luck at all, 99.9% of ministers in these critical areas will keep their doors closed and worship on line in order to keep their parishioners safe until the case #'s come down and public health officials give the all clear. Many outbreaks have been tied to church services all over the country. I agree with Kagan on this, all the way. Let's hope it doesn't lead to a slippery slope.

Kagan, joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer, dissented from this order in a blunt opinion highlighting the possibility that her colleagues’ decision will kill people. “Justices of this Court are not scientists,” Kagan began. “Nor do we know much about public health policy. Yet today the Court displaces the judgments of experts about how to respond to a raging pandemic. … That mandate defies our caselaw, exceeds our judicial role, and risks worsening the pandemic.” She pointed out that, contrary to the court’s belief, California has not actually treated churches less favorably than secular businesses and assemblies: Political meetings, lectures, and plays are also banned, she wrote—and these “secular gatherings,” like religious worship, “are constitutionally protected” by the First Amendment. The court simply created “a special exception for worship services.”

“To state the obvious, judges do not know what scientists and public health experts do,” Kagan explained. “So it is alarming that the Court second-guesses the judgments of expert officials, and displaces their conclusions with its own. In the worst public health crisis in a century, this foray into armchair epidemiology cannot end well.”

That is fine and dandy... let the individual church decide but not the government. when it come to religion the government should have absolutely no say

And the majority, even of evangelicals agree. It is a small but loud number of evangelicals leading this push to ignore safety protocols. Ironically, they have forgotten what being a Christian is all about.

“We understand that part of what God is giving to us right now is an invitation to care for our neighbors,” said the Rt. Rev. Thomas James Brown, the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Maine. “One of the ways we can care for our neighbors is to do everything we can to slow and stop the spread of this virus. That means following every possible safety protocol.”

Most churches are following Maine’s COVID-19 restrictions, even as loud minority fights them

That small group of evangelical churches has made a loud show of pushing back against the state’s restrictions.

bangordailynews.com

 

[cnm]

Freedom is the fundamental reason America was founded.

Freedom's what the slave states voted for, all right.

 

[DukeU]

Freedom's what the slave states voted for, all right.

Good thing we righted that wrong huh?

 

[airplanemechanic]

The freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly apply to all persons regardless of sex, race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnic background, or any other characteristic. Our laws should NEVER, EVER prefer one over another or establish one religion/ideology over another. People who attend mass gatherings endanger the American People in this time of pandemic. If you want to contract the virus and have you and your loved ones die of it, so be it. You earned it. You have a right to be a dirty person. But don't spread it among the rest of us.

Good, then don't do something you've never done anyway, attend church.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In November thousands gathered in secret to celebrate the wedding of the grandson of a revered Rabbi. No spike in deaths.

 

[Crepitus]

Late on Friday night, the Supreme Court blocked California’s public health ban on indoor religious services in a splintered 6–3 decision that augurs a major shift in the law of religious liberty. Justice Elena Kagan’s extraordinary dissent accused her conservative colleagues of endangering lives by overruling public health officials and potentially facilitating the spread of COVID-19. But the court’s new conservative majority ignored her warning—and, in the process, gave itself new powers to strike down alleged burdens on religious freedom. The Supreme Court effectively tossed out decades of case law in a late-night emergency order, unsettling precedent that states have relied upon to craft COVID restrictions. As Kagan sharply noted, Friday’s order “injects uncertainty into an area where uncertainty has human costs.”

Kagan Warns the Supreme Court’s New COVID Decision May Kill People

Keep it up religious nut jobs. You're going to be our best reason to expand the court. And you can bet the farm on it. The court will be expanded to stop religious extremism. The most fundamental reason America was created to begin with.

Something must be done about the recent supreme court appointments. They cannot be allowed to keep murdering people.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Late on Friday night, the Supreme Court blocked California’s public health ban on indoor religious services in a splintered 6–3 decision that augurs a major shift in the law of religious liberty. Justice Elena Kagan’s extraordinary dissent accused her conservative colleagues of endangering lives by overruling public health officials and potentially facilitating the spread of COVID-19. But the court’s new conservative majority ignored her warning—and, in the process, gave itself new powers to strike down alleged burdens on religious freedom. The Supreme Court effectively tossed out decades of case law in a late-night emergency order, unsettling precedent that states have relied upon to craft COVID restrictions. As Kagan sharply noted, Friday’s order “injects uncertainty into an area where uncertainty has human costs.”

Kagan Warns the Supreme Court’s New COVID Decision May Kill People

Keep it up religious nut jobs. You're going to be our best reason to expand the court. And you can bet the farm on it. The court will be expanded to stop religious extremism. The most fundamental reason America was created to begin with.

Something must be done about the recent supreme court appointments. They cannot be allowed to keep murdering people.

Good fucking god you're dumber than a box of rocks. So a lung infection with a 99% survival rate is enough to waive our rights? Do you even fucking realize the precedent you set with something like that?

The SCOTUS are put there to uphold the constitution. Show me where it says that our rights can be waived during a pandemic. If you can't come up with that then shut the fuck up.

 

[OldLady]

In November thousands gathered in secret to celebrate the wedding of the grandson of a revered Rabbi. No spike in deaths.

There was such a spike in this community that the mayor threatened to lock them down. Yes, that kind of behavior led to many more cases.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Freedom is the fundamental reason America was founded.

Freedom's what the slave states voted for, all right.

Objection, relevance.

 

[Concerned American]

But the court’s new conservative majority

The court has been conservative for at least the last 20 years. You think that is a NEW majority? SMH.