Its like Groundhog Day: Why do Republicans keep playing a losing hand?

[oreo]

House Republicans drop bid to tie other issues to debt ceiling - CNN.com

House Speaker John Boehner appeared to acknowledge political reality Tuesday, confirming he would hold a vote on raising the federal borrowing limit without other provisions attached.

The vote is set for Tuesday night, according to House Republican leadership sources, and approval of the "clean" debt ceiling plan would avert another Washington political impasse despised by voters.

Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said last week the debt ceiling must be raised by February 27 to ensure the full faith and credit of the United States.

On Monday night, House Republicans had signaled they would demand a condition for raising the borrowing limit, according to legislators following a closed-door meeting.

The plan would raise the debt limit until March 2015, which gets Congress beyond the November elections. It also would repeal cuts to military pensions that were part of the recently passed budget.


Boehner sought to put the blame for a clean debt ceiling bill on President Obama, saying the rising federal debt was his fault.

"It's the President driving up the debt and the President wanted to do nothing about the debt that's occurring, will not engage in our long-term spending problem," Boehner said. "And so, let his party give him the debt ceiling increase that he wants

Because it is a losing hand for Republicans to play right now. The last thing Republicans in the house want to do is take the focus OFF of the OBAMACARE implosion--and that's exactly why they are not fighting this new debt ceiling raise. The last time their poll numbers dropped off of a cliff because they shut down the government for a few days--the news media made a major issue of it.

The media is sitting there, just waiting for Republicans to do something--so they can talk about something else other than OBAMACARE.

Sometimes you have to know when to pick your fights.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The plan would raise the debt limit until March 2015, which gets Congress beyond the November elections. It also would repeal cuts to military pensions that were part of the recently passed budget.

This is what it’s solely about, not a desire to pursue responsible governance by republicans.

 

[oreo]

The plan would raise the debt limit until March 2015, which gets Congress beyond the November elections. It also would repeal cuts to military pensions that were part of the recently passed budget.

This is what it’s solely about, not a desire to pursue responsible governance by republicans.

Ha.Ha--In case you haven't noticed REPUBLICANS are still the minority. Do you want full democrat control for the next many years--because this is the fight that you now want to do?

Obamacare is imploding before our eyes. Obama's poll numbers are falling off of a cliff. Democrats poll numbers are falling off of a cliff. We are headed into a mid-term election to where we can get rid of a lot of these big spenders.

And you want to interrupt that process--by picking a fight NOW that the media is certain to turn against Republicans? Just like they did last time.

Think about that! There are times to discuss cutting spending--but it's certainly not NOW.

 

[Lumpy 1]

the Obama ''NO'' WAS A PROTEST VOTE, THERE WAS NO WAY dEMS WERE GOING TO HURT THE ECONOMY WITH A PHONY CRISIS. PERIOD. That's dumbazz TP stuff.

Right.. why did they stand by and watch Housing Bubble pop and do nothing?

They wanted a crisis to take advantage of for the coming election, there's no other answer for it...

 

[kaz]

90 per cent of Obama's debt is averting another Pub Great Depression and helping the victims, morons...

That's like saying when you're on the verge of bankruptcy that maxing out your credit cards will save you.

Turn off MS-NBC, dude. They are lying to you. Government spends, it does not produce. And they take the money from producers. But that's only if you believe economics...

 

[kaz]

Boehner has to go but for other reasons, in this case he is right, after all he is just agreeing with what Obama had to say about the debt ceiling. So disgusting seeing liberals bitch about someone bitchin about what they bitched about 6 short years ago.

From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

At the time, Senator Obama was urging Congress not to tolerate an increase that would bring the debt ceiling to $9 trillion. Under President Obama, the debt ceiling has been raised to $14.3 trillion. Even without counting most unfunded liabilities, the national debt is now calculated to be nearing $14.1 trillion. It increases about $4.22 billion per day (each citizen’s share stands at roughly $45K). Thus, Democrats will soon demand that the debt ceiling be raised, lest the sky fall. When they do, they will be asking for a significant boost in a ceiling that is already 60 percent higher than the one Barack Obama said was “a sign of leadership failure” five years ago.
Senator Barack Obama Explaining his 2006 Vote Against Raising the Debt Limit | National Review Online

I think this is a valid point. Obviously this is a case of hypocrisy, but tell me, what politician is above this kind of behavior?

The point is not that the politicians are different, it's that Obama's worshipers are different. HW got killed for "read my lips." W was roundly criticized by fiscal conservatives. Hannity and Rush both bashed him for spending. Reagan didn't even want spending, but he was criticized for not standing up to Tip more on spending.

However, with the leftists of the Democratic Party, W was "stealing from our children" with $300 Billion deficits. Read the last page of the discussion, Obama's run trillions, refused to cut anything an you people are calling it "responsible."

That ... is the difference ...

 

[LeftofLeft]

House Republicans drop bid to tie other issues to debt ceiling - CNN.com

House Speaker John Boehner appeared to acknowledge political reality Tuesday, confirming he would hold a vote on raising the federal borrowing limit without other provisions attached.

The vote is set for Tuesday night, according to House Republican leadership sources, and approval of the "clean" debt ceiling plan would avert another Washington political impasse despised by voters.

Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said last week the debt ceiling must be raised by February 27 to ensure the full faith and credit of the United States.

On Monday night, House Republicans had signaled they would demand a condition for raising the borrowing limit, according to legislators following a closed-door meeting.

The plan would raise the debt limit until March 2015, which gets Congress beyond the November elections. It also would repeal cuts to military pensions that were part of the recently passed budget.


Boehner sought to put the blame for a clean debt ceiling bill on President Obama, saying the rising federal debt was his fault.

"It's the President driving up the debt and the President wanted to do nothing about the debt that's occurring, will not engage in our long-term spending problem," Boehner said. "And so, let his party give him the debt ceiling increase that he wants

The Losing hand played by the Republicans are that they want to be liked by Democrats. The real Losing hand is the notion that increasing debt is more of a priority vs. decreased spending.

 

[Spoonman]

House Republicans drop bid to tie other issues to debt ceiling - CNN.com

House Speaker John Boehner appeared to acknowledge political reality Tuesday, confirming he would hold a vote on raising the federal borrowing limit without other provisions attached.

The vote is set for Tuesday night, according to House Republican leadership sources, and approval of the "clean" debt ceiling plan would avert another Washington political impasse despised by voters.

Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said last week the debt ceiling must be raised by February 27 to ensure the full faith and credit of the United States.

On Monday night, House Republicans had signaled they would demand a condition for raising the borrowing limit, according to legislators following a closed-door meeting.

The plan would raise the debt limit until March 2015, which gets Congress beyond the November elections. It also would repeal cuts to military pensions that were part of the recently passed budget.


Boehner sought to put the blame for a clean debt ceiling bill on President Obama, saying the rising federal debt was his fault.

"It's the President driving up the debt and the President wanted to do nothing about the debt that's occurring, will not engage in our long-term spending problem," Boehner said. "And so, let his party give him the debt ceiling increase that he wants

took back the house, will take back the senate in 2014. that losing hand?

 

[Spoonman]

why do democrats keep spending out of control and putting americans further in debt? it's like groundhog day over and over. will they never learn?

 

[Old Rocks]

How is it we're playing the losing hand when you stacked the deck?

In other words, you lost the election.

 

[Old Rocks]

why do democrats keep spending out of control and putting americans further in debt? it's like groundhog day over and over. will they never learn?

Dumb fuck, Dems only spend in great amounts when they have to fix a broken economy that the GOP broke. As in '29 and '08. Otherwise, they do far better on spending than the GOP. Reagan more than tripled the debt. Bush Jr. was running up huge deficits, even though he was keeping the wars off of the books. President Obama quite properly put the wars back on the books, then you people blamed him for the debts that Bush Jr. had ran up.

 

[Spoonman]

why do democrats keep spending out of control and putting americans further in debt? it's like groundhog day over and over. will they never learn?

Dumb fuck, Dems only spend in great amounts when they have to fix a broken economy that the GOP broke. As in '29 and '08. Otherwise, they do far better on spending than the GOP. Reagan more than tripled the debt. Bush Jr. was running up huge deficits, even though he was keeping the wars off of the books. President Obama quite properly put the wars back on the books, then you people blamed him for the debts that Bush Jr. had ran up.

so why haven't they fixed the economy?

 

[kaz]

why do democrats keep spending out of control and putting americans further in debt? it's like groundhog day over and over. will they never learn?

Dumb fuck, Dems only spend in great amounts when they have to fix a broken economy that the GOP broke. As in '29 and '08. Otherwise, they do far better on spending than the GOP. Reagan more than tripled the debt. Bush Jr. was running up huge deficits, even though he was keeping the wars off of the books. President Obama quite properly put the wars back on the books, then you people blamed him for the debts that Bush Jr. had ran up.

so why haven't they fixed the economy?

W was responsible for a recession that started six months before he took office.

Obama is not responsible for the economy over 5 years after he took office.

Liberalism, the blind leading the blind.

 

[ilia25]

The more important question is - Why bother have a "Ceiling" if it is always raised?

No reason.The US is the only country in the world that has this ridiculous concept.

The U.S. is the only country in the world with the world's reserve currency.

So what?.. Forcing the Congress to vote multiple times on the same issue is ridiculous, no matter what the issue is.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

No reason.The US is the only country in the world that has this ridiculous concept.

The U.S. is the only country in the world with the world's reserve currency.

So what?.. Forcing the Congress to vote multiple times on the same issue is ridiculous, no matter what the issue is.

They vote multiple times for transportation, agriculture and omnibus spending bills every year.


You really are in over your head here.