Jann Wenner Removed from Rock HOF

[scruffy]

If the book is about masters the founder of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didn't identify black or female Masters because there weren't any.

Bullshit.

Jimi Hendrix?

How about Carol Kaye? Probably the single most recorded bass player in all of history.

This goes along with complaints that there are no black or female old masters of art. Recently there was a complaint that a movie about 17th century Denmark didn't have black actors.

I got one for you.

James "Blood" Ullmer.

His album "Black Rock" is a classic.

Here he is in Europe being highly political.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Bullshit.

Jimi Hendrix?

How about Carol Kaye? Probably the single most recorded bass player in all of history.




I got one for you.

James "Blood" Ullmer.

His album "Black Rock" is a classic.

Here he is in Europe being highly political.

Wenner never said there were no black rockers. He said they were not masters. I never heard of Carol Kaye or James Ullmer. Jimi Hendrix was popular but certainly no master.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Jimi Hendrix was popular but certainly no master.

Hendrix was no master???
Every rock guitarist since him have been trying to sound just like him!
Stevie Ray Vaughan generated legendary status by cloning Hendrix and Albert King.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Never heard of Stevie Ray Vaughn.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The Rock HOF has too many unworthy rock artists inducted.

I'd say too many NON-ROCK unworthy inductees!
Jann Wenner has been an ASS in his whole tenure on the RHF board of pretentious assholes!!

 

[SeaMajor7]

How can anyone define a "master" anyway?
I preferer the term TRAIL BLAZER!!!!
Robert Johnson
Chuck Berry
Little Richard
B.B. King
Jimmi Hendrix

Those dudes paved the way!
Black guyyyyyyys.

Yay, I get virtue signaling points now, right?


Wenner is a POS

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The guy wrote a book about what he wanted, the R&R HOF Masters like legends Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen and Bono. Then gets criticized for not making it the politically correct book THEY wanted even though there ARE no women or black artists that quite rise to that level of musical and commercial success though there are some good ones like Janis Joplin.

But the real crime here is that rather than stand by his decision, he APOLOGIZED for it, conceding their point was more valid than his own, despite it being HIS book about who he saw as the legends of R&R.

I am just listening to an interview with this guy. He mentions Janis Joplin. She could not articulate the musical theories upon which her music was based. He was expressing that much more than simply playing an instrument went into being a master of the craft.

He is correct.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How can anyone define a "master" anyway?
I preferer the term TRAIL BLAZER!!!!
Robert Johnson
Chuck Berry
Little Richard
B.B. King
Jimmi Hendrix

Those dudes paved the way!
Black guyyyyyyys.

Yay, I get virtue signaling points now, right?


Wenner is a POS

They weren't masters. Wenner was using additional criteria in separating masters from the popular.

 

[SeaMajor7]

They weren't masters. Wenner was using additional criteria in separating masters from the popular.

It's all subjective; there is no criteria unless you are citing influences, imo.
This is just another case of race and politics being where it's not belonged, sadly.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Never heard of Stevie Ray Vaughn.

then you shouldnt be commenting here....

 

[EvilCat Breath]

then you shouldnt be commenting here....

Why not, he's obviously not a master.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why not, he's obviously not a master.

how would you know?.....you never heard of him...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

how would you know?.....you never heard of him...

That's how I know. If he was truly a master, I would have heard of him.

 

[Flash]

Another racist hoist on his own petard.

You are confused Moon Bat.

He understand how dumb Blacks are. It is called reality. Go look it up.

 

[Blaster]

Hendrix was no master???
Every rock guitarist since him have been trying to sound just like him!
Stevie Ray Vaughan generated legendary status by cloning Hendrix and Albert King.

Nonsense.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Nonsense.

Explain.

 

[Crepitus]

You are confused Moon Bat.

He understand how dumb Blacks are. It is called reality. Go look it up.

You will eventually end up facing the same thing.

Do not misunderstand me, I am not threatening you in any way. I'm saying that eventually you will make a statement like that somewhere other than an anonymous message board and people will notice. You could lose a job, friendships, who knows what.

 

[Foxfyre]

I guess his controversial comments struck a nerve with the Hall of Fame executives.

Jann Wenner removed from Rock & Roll Hall of Fame board after interview

The Rolling Stone co-founder's remarks to The New York Times about why he didn't include interviews with Black or women artists in his book "The Masters" have been widely criticized.

www.nbcnews.com

No he was seen as 'politically incorrect' which these days is a cardinal sin. I'm pretty sure he didn't hurt anybody's feelings.

A few decades ago he would be allowed his opinion and allowed to pick his nominees for whatever even if they were all white and male. And the rest of us could strongly disagree and perhaps discredit his opinion by illustrating why he was wrong and who else deserved to be included.

For instance among the earliest rock n rollers who can dismiss Little Richard, Fats Domino, Chuck Berry, Louis Armstrong, The Platters et al as 'masters' of their time? In truth black female artists of that early era are harder to remember. Does that make me sexist to say that?

But of the women of early rock n roll, Connie Francis, Brenda Lee, The Supremes, and a few others probably head the charts among the earliest rock n roll artists. And yes, Janis Joplin belongs there too.

I wish America would get back to honest argument about these things instead of demanding everybody be politically correct or else.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Can anyone even define rock-and-roll as a music genre?
Literally, it’s an old black ‘Yiddish’ meaning sexual intercourse.

 

[Independent thinker]

I'm not surprised that he was removed from the HOF. His comments were insensitive to black artists.

I was just there recently. As soon as you walk in the door pretty much most of the lower level is devoted to Hip Hop.