Jeb Bush: Republicans Don't Need Conservatives to Win White House, Should Not Defund Exec Amnesty

[Redfish]

Goldwater got beat because he was perceived as a far right conservative.

wrong, goldwater lost because the media and the democrats convinced the voters that he would get us into a war. it had nothing to do with conservative or liberal. those labels meant nothing in those days.

as usual, you are full of shit, jake, er rightwinger, or whoever you are today.

You go out of your way to be wrong don't you?

If conservative/liberal meant nothing in those days, why is Goldwater's book, that became a bible of sorts for the modern right,

entitled 'The Conscience of a Conservative' ?

lol

nope, I am correct. I lived through that time. The focus that we have today on liberal and conservative did not exist in those days, and the media did not focus on it. we also did not have 24/7/365 news cycles that are desperate to fill time so they make up issues that no one really gives a shit about.

Yes, some of Goldwater's ideas have been carried forward as part of the conservative agenda, but he lost because of the one ad showing a nuke going off. It was a great ad and worked.

 

[Redfish]

Goldwater got beat because he was perceived as a far right conservative.

remove 'perceived as' and you got it right.

wrong again, but you never have gotten anything right. you are delusional with your left wing indoctrination. must be that defective liberal gene.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It would be quite amusing if after the supposed advances that the Right believes they've made in recent elections, that the GOP ends up nominating another Bush,

and perhaps the most moderate Bush of the lot.

 

[kiwiman127]

Bill O'Reilly said last night Romney should run again. If Romney did and got the nomination, southern Baptist repubs would stay home again and give the Dem nominee the election by default. O'Reilly needs to retire and stick to writing books.

Yeah, Romney could be the new Harold Stassen!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jeb Bush will be the kiss of death for the Republican Party

 

[Redfish]

It would be quite amusing if after the supposed advances that the Right believes they've made in recent elections, that the GOP ends up nominating another Bush,

and perhaps the most moderate Bush of the lot.

Jeb would lose to HRC or whoever the dems run. He would be another McCain or Dole. Maybe Jeb should switch parties and challenge HRC for the dem nomination. There is very little difference between them, and they both like women as sex partners.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Goldwater got beat because he was perceived as a far right conservative.

remove 'perceived as' and you got it right.

wrong again, but you never have gotten anything right. you are delusional with your left wing indoctrination. must be that defective liberal gene.

To deny that Goldwater was a conservative is about as daft as one could get on the subject.

Do you even know what his positions were?

 

[Redfish]

Bill O'Reilly said last night Romney should run again. If Romney did and got the nomination, southern Baptist repubs would stay home again and give the Dem nominee the election by default. O'Reilly needs to retire and stick to writing books.

Yeah, Romney could be the new Harold Stassen!

Romney would have been a very good president, but we will never know.

We got two terms of incompetence, racial unrest, fiscal disaster, and internationsl embarrassment instead. But we got the first black president so nothing else matters.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Jeb Bush will be the kiss of death for the Republican Party

No that will be whichever far rightwing crackpot they more likely nominate.

 

[Redfish]

Goldwater got beat because he was perceived as a far right conservative.

remove 'perceived as' and you got it right.

wrong again, but you never have gotten anything right. you are delusional with your left wing indoctrination. must be that defective liberal gene.

To deny that Goldwater was a conservative is about as daft as one could get on the subject.

Do you even know what his positions were?

I did not say he was not a conservative. What I said is that those philosophical categories were not as important in those days as they are today. The country was not divided on political thoughts as it is today.

 

[Redfish]

Jeb Bush will be the kiss of death for the Republican Party

No that will be whichever far rightwing crackpot they more likely nominate.

ok, dingleberry, put your money where your mouth is. I will bet you $500 that a republican wins the 2016 presidential race. Deal?

 

[Vigilante]

Jeb Bush will be the kiss of death for the Republican Party

No that will be whichever far rightwing crackpot they more likely nominate.

You notice how this N.Y. Liberal idiot NY Carbonated, sounds EXACTLY like our Manchurian Republican Jake "The Flake" Starkey.... one doesn't have to wonder!

 

[Toro]

Jeb Bush will be the kiss of death for the Republican Party

No that will be whichever far rightwing crackpot they more likely nominate.

ok, dingleberry, put your money where your mouth is. I will bet you $500 that a republican wins the 2016 presidential race. Deal?

You should bet your sig line.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yet another reason we don't need another Bush.

 

[SwimExpert]

Even though moderate Republican candidates lose presidential elections without the conservative base (see: George H.W. Bush '92, Bob Dole '96, John McCain '08, Mitt Romney '12)

Bush 88, Bush 00, Bush 04.

It would seem that moderates do win.

 

[Toro]

The Republicans haven't won a Presidential election since 1928 without a Bush or a Nixon on the ticket.

Fuck this "We can't without a conservative." We can't win without a Bush!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Goldwater got beat because he was perceived as a far right conservative.

remove 'perceived as' and you got it right.

wrong again, but you never have gotten anything right. you are delusional with your left wing indoctrination. must be that defective liberal gene.

Redfish, your are ignorant about the subject and oblivious to critical thinking.

Goldwater was not as crazy as are our far right idiots today.

 

[Redfish]

Goldwater got beat because he was perceived as a far right conservative.

remove 'perceived as' and you got it right.

wrong again, but you never have gotten anything right. you are delusional with your left wing indoctrination. must be that defective liberal gene.

Redfish, your are ignorant about the subject and oblivious to critical thinking.

Goldwater was not as crazy as are our far right idiots today.

sure, there are some crazy far right lunatics, but there are a lot more crazy left wing lunatics, you and your cronies and socks prove that every day on this message board.

 

[Redfish]

Yet another reason we don't need another Bush.

I agree, running Jeb would be a huge mistake.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And that kind of remark spots Redfish as a far right crazy person.

Those freaks have cost four of the last six elections for the presidency and will do so again if given a chance.