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How did you get the impression that this man was/is not responsible for his doings?
Where did he, or anyone representing him, claimed he's mentally 'challenged'?
when you open fire on a school bus full of children on a field trip to a park because their noise is disturbing your praying, then it is a pretty safe bet that he is mentally unbalanced, especially given some of his erratic behaviour prior to the incident.
but hey, be my guest. release him in nine years. he will still be ubder 50 and probably in pretty good shape, and he will be rehabilitated, of course and the thought of seeking revenge will never have crossed his mind. my god, only a mentally ill person would think about revenging themselves against those who imprisoned him for "acting heroically", as his act is being touted by some jordanians.
that certainly is a better option than keeping him locked up indefinitely, isn't it? let him out in nine years.
you've convinced me.
he should get life for every girl he killed.
No one speaking of releasing him. I thought the question was weather he's sane or not?
How did you get the impression that this man was/is not responsible for his doings?
Where did he, or anyone representing him, claimed he's mentally 'challenged'?
when you open fire on a school bus full of children on a field trip to a park because their noise is disturbing your praying, then it is a pretty safe bet that he is mentally unbalanced, especially given some of his erratic behaviour prior to the incident.
but hey, be my guest. release him in nine years. he will still be ubder 50 and probably in pretty good shape, and he will be rehabilitated, of course and the thought of seeking revenge will never have crossed his mind. my god, only a mentally ill person would think about revenging themselves against those who imprisoned him for "acting heroically", as his act is being touted by some jordanians.
that certainly is a better option than keeping him locked up indefinitely, isn't it? let him out in nine years.
you've convinced me.
he should get life for every girl he killed.
No one speaking of releasing him. I thought the question was weather he's sane or not?
when you open fire on a school bus full of children on a field trip to a park because their noise is disturbing your praying, then it is a pretty safe bet that he is mentally unbalanced, especially given some of his erratic behaviour prior to the incident.
but hey, be my guest. release him in nine years. he will still be ubder 50 and probably in pretty good shape, and he will be rehabilitated, of course and the thought of seeking revenge will never have crossed his mind. my god, only a mentally ill person would think about revenging themselves against those who imprisoned him for "acting heroically", as his act is being touted by some jordanians.
that certainly is a better option than keeping him locked up indefinitely, isn't it? let him out in nine years.
you've convinced me.
he should get life for every girl he killed.
No one speaking of releasing him. I thought the question was weather he's sane or not?
UNDER Jordanian law, a life sentence means 25 years imprisonment. So, that means he is released in 9 years.
he should get life for every girl he killed.
No one speaking of releasing him. I thought the question was weather he's sane or not?
UNDER Jordanian law, a life sentence means 25 years imprisonment. So, that means he is released in 9 years.
Life sentence times 7.
I hardly passed math finals, and even I know to do that simple math
How could I not? IT DOES not matter what the ethnicity of a child is who is hurt or killed. I WAS thinking today about the children hurt in Boston today, I do not know details but they say children were hospitalized. THAT happened at the other side of the park where the big movie theatre is. MY husband was there last Thursday at that movie theatre. A 2 year old and others are among the children injured. WHAT a senseless act! BUT I have to say what I mostly feel about these children is sorrow, not some huge desire to make someone pay for the crime.
I don't see this as some "huge desire" to make someone "pay" for a crime. Look at the facts of the case - what is known for sure:
- he did shoot 7 children in cold blood
- he clearly shows no remorse based on his own words, he feels he did nothing wrong and it was his "duty"
Pardoning someone like that strikes me as highly irresponsible...would you pardon and release Jared Lee Loughner or James Holmes free into society, for example? How is this man any different?
it is probably a good idea for societies to treat mentally ill behaviour as being different from criminal behaviour. that way you avoid these conundrums. a person could be confined indefinitely then...instead of releasing a mentally ill person because he has served his criminal sentence. it is not like mental illness can be rehabilitated.
obviously, if a person has a severe mental illness, they are ill and not responsible for the crimes they commit.
How could I not? IT DOES not matter what the ethnicity of a child is who is hurt or killed. I WAS thinking today about the children hurt in Boston today, I do not know details but they say children were hospitalized. THAT happened at the other side of the park where the big movie theatre is. MY husband was there last Thursday at that movie theatre. A 2 year old and others are among the children injured. WHAT a senseless act! BUT I have to say what I mostly feel about these children is sorrow, not some huge desire to make someone pay for the crime.
I don't see this as some "huge desire" to make someone "pay" for a crime. Look at the facts of the case - what is known for sure:
- he did shoot 7 children in cold blood
- he clearly shows no remorse based on his own words, he feels he did nothing wrong and it was his "duty"
Pardoning someone like that strikes me as highly irresponsible...would you pardon and release Jared Lee Loughner or James Holmes free into society, for example? How is this man any different?
I DO not see how you can make any statement about whether he feels remorseful today. NO interviews with him have taken place recently, at least none I have read about. ALL I have read of are statements he allegedly made 16 years ago.HIS present state of mind and mental condition and physical condition all have relevance to whether he should be released before his 25 year sentence is satisfied, in my opinion. AND BY all means, Jordan needs to follow Jordanian laws and practices here.
WE are speaking here about a man who killed 7 children and whether he should be released after 16 years in prison. IN ANOTHER thread we learn Israel will hold no Israelis accountable for the murders of over 30 Palestinisan children in Gaza in 2012. WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD?
WE are speaking here about a man who killed 7 children and whether he should be released after 16 years in prison. IN ANOTHER thread we learn Israel will hold no Israelis accountable for the murders of over 30 Palestinisan children in Gaza in 2012. WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD?
Moron, two different Countries and two different set of facts. Anything you post is loaded with lies, misinformation and fabrications.
As for the Jordanian, the release was for POLITICAL prisoners not mass murderers.
So let me get this right.... if someone murdered 7 of your relatives in cold blood and stated he did nothing wrong that it was his duty, you would be fine with releasing him from prison in 16 years?
I AM a Christian who believes in forgiving others as Jesus forgavel. OF COURSE, I would forgive! I AM NOT LIVING BOUND IN HATE!
WEll, in the past 5 years Israel has killed over 500 Palestinian children and in that same 5 years Hamas has killed one Israeli child. ITS HARD TO GRIEVE FOR FANTASY dying Israeli CHILDREN WHO DO NOT EXIST!Well, at least let us consider how much Sherri also grieves for all the Israel's killed by Palestinians. Right Sherri?
Moron, two different Countries and two different set of facts. Anything you post is loaded with lies, misinformation and fabrications.
As for the Jordanian, the release was for POLITICAL prisoners not mass murderers.
So let me get this right.... if someone murdered 7 of your relatives in cold blood and stated he did nothing wrong that it was his duty, you would be fine with releasing him from prison in 16 years?
I don't see this as some "huge desire" to make someone "pay" for a crime. Look at the facts of the case - what is known for sure:
- he did shoot 7 children in cold blood
- he clearly shows no remorse based on his own words, he feels he did nothing wrong and it was his "duty"
Pardoning someone like that strikes me as highly irresponsible...would you pardon and release Jared Lee Loughner or James Holmes free into society, for example? How is this man any different?
it is probably a good idea for societies to treat mentally ill behaviour as being different from criminal behaviour. that way you avoid these conundrums. a person could be confined indefinitely then...instead of releasing a mentally ill person because he has served his criminal sentence. it is not like mental illness can be rehabilitated.
obviously, if a person has a severe mental illness, they are ill and not responsible for the crimes they commit.
How did you get the impression that this man was/is not responsible for his doings?
Where did he, or anyone representing him, claimed he's mentally 'challenged'?
it is probably a good idea for societies to treat mentally ill behaviour as being different from criminal behaviour. that way you avoid these conundrums. a person could be confined indefinitely then...instead of releasing a mentally ill person because he has served his criminal sentence. it is not like mental illness can be rehabilitated.
obviously, if a person has a severe mental illness, they are ill and not responsible for the crimes they commit.
How did you get the impression that this man was/is not responsible for his doings?
Where did he, or anyone representing him, claimed he's mentally 'challenged'?
It was claimed in one of the articles that he suffered from an anti-social disorder - that was where that came from.
So that would mean anyone who kills indiscriminately is insane right?
UNDER Jordanian law, a life sentence means 25 years imprisonment. So, that means he is released in 9 years.
Life sentence times 7.
I hardly passed math finals, and even I know to do that simple math
you're not a jordanian. it is none of your business, really, at this point.
life sentence=25 years.
all i am suggesting is mentally ill people be treated like mentally ill people.
didn't hitler believe in imprisoning those with mental defects...or mental illness, among other mental conditions.
Life sentence times 7.
I hardly passed math finals, and even I know to do that simple math
you're not a jordanian. it is none of your business, really, at this point.
life sentence=25 years.
all i am suggesting is mentally ill people be treated like mentally ill people.
didn't hitler believe in imprisoning those with mental defects...or mental illness, among other mental conditions.
This is none of my business, sure, but since it's a message board, I express my opinion. I am a regular person with no influence on Jordanian justice system, so of course, it's 'none of my business'.
And I don't think bringing hitler to this debate is wise, to say the least.
