Just to educate the idiot population about the Conferate Flag and Confederacy.

[tinydancer]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

If we're talking South Carolina (don't know of any others), by the state legislature. I don't think Governors have that power.

Well Fritz Hollings the Dem Governor actually put the flag on the Dome. In and around '98 or '99 the Republican Governor removed it from the Capitol and put it at the war memorial on the State's grounds.

 

[Pogo]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

If we're talking South Carolina (don't know of any others), by the state legislature. I don't think Governors have that power.

Well Fritz Hollings the Dem Governor actually put the flag on the Dome. In and around '98 or '99 the Republican Governor removed it from the Capitol and put it at the war memorial on the State's grounds.

No, the state legislature did that.
Same body that brought it down today.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

You must have missed US history class.

In 1956 we also had pro-Union Republicans.

No shit. And you still have pro Union Republicans who are very proud of their anti slavery heritage.

 

[tinydancer]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

It didn't happen overnight but it most certainly happened. Adult remedial Social Studies 101 can help you make up for those skipped classes in high school.

The party membership changed while the attitudes remained in the regions. The confederate flag belongs to the attitude, not the party.

Well most Dixiecrats stayed Democrats. That's just a fact. If you want to believe in the fairytale that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats became Republicans well that's your choice.

But it's a fairy tale.

 

[Pogo]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

And it's a desperation strawman, as nobody ever claimed it happened "overnight" or anything of the sort.

The fact is political parties are not at all about any kind of fixed ideology -- they're about getting people elected, whatever that takes. The DP and RP of 150 years ago more resemble their opposites today than they resemble what they were then. Republicans were the Liberals and the party of big bold new ideas about doing big things with government, including the first affirmative action strokes like land grants to freed slaves, while the DP was the party of "smaller" government and "states rights". By the turn of the century the RP was taking on the interests of corporations and the rich while the DP absorbed the Populist movement, which is why it's now identified with blacks, Jews, immigrants, minorities and women. But that didn't used to be the case, and it happened over a few decades, not "overnight".

The pixie dust, well we're not sure about that part.

 

[Pogo]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

It didn't happen overnight but it most certainly happened. Adult remedial Social Studies 101 can help you make up for those skipped classes in high school.

The party membership changed while the attitudes remained in the regions. The confederate flag belongs to the attitude, not the party.

Well most Dixiecrats stayed Democrats. That's just a fact. If you want to believe in the fairytale that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats became Republicans well that's your choice.

But it's a fairy tale.

"Most Dixiecrats"? Here's the complete list of "Dixiecrats":

1. Strom Thurmond
2. Fielding Wright (Thurmond's running mate)

That's it. End of list. Two people.

Thurmond went Republican in 1964 after the CRA passed. Wright died in 1956, before either Civil Rights Act came up.

Thurmond had already been kicked off the state Democratic ballot for Senator ten years earlier after he endorsed Eisenhower over Stevenson in 1952.

So exactly 50% of "Dixiecrats" stayed kind-of Democrats, while the other 50% died.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

What's your point? That there were once racist conservative Democrats? Gee that's fascinating.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's some insight.

When the South Carolina legislature votes 94 to 20 to take it down,

it's time for you RWnuts to shut up.

 

[tinydancer]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

And it's a desperation strawman, as nobody ever claimed it happened "overnight" or anything of the sort.

The fact is political parties are not at all about any kind of fixed ideology -- they're about getting people elected, whatever that takes. The DP and RP of 150 years ago more resemble their opposites today than they resemble what they were then. Republicans were the Liberals and the party of big bold new ideas about doing big things with government, including the first affirmative action strokes like land grants to freed slaves, while the DP was the party of "smaller" government and "states rights". By the turn of the century the RP was taking on the interests of corporations and the rich while the DP absorbed the Populist movement, which is why it's now identified with blacks, Jews, immigrants, minorities and women. But that didn't used to be the case, and it happened over a few decades, not "overnight".

The pixie dust, well we're not sure about that part.

By the turn of the century? Are you really truly claiming that the Democrats became a Populist movement in the early 1900's?

Surely you jest.

 

[tinydancer]

By Democrat Governors correct?

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

It didn't happen overnight but it most certainly happened. Adult remedial Social Studies 101 can help you make up for those skipped classes in high school.

The party membership changed while the attitudes remained in the regions. The confederate flag belongs to the attitude, not the party.

Well most Dixiecrats stayed Democrats. That's just a fact. If you want to believe in the fairytale that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats became Republicans well that's your choice.

But it's a fairy tale.

"Most Dixiecrats"? Here's the complete list of "Dixiecrats":

1. Strom Thurmond
2. Fielding Wright (Thurmond's running mate)

That's it. End of list. Two people.

Thurmond went Republican in 1964 after the CRA passed. Wright died in 1956, before either Civil Rights Act came up.

Thurmond had already been kicked off the state Democratic ballot for Senator ten years earlier after he endorsed Eisenhower over Stevenson in 1952.

So exactly 50% of "Dixiecrats" stayed kind-of Democrats, while the other 50% died.

Oh bite me that there were only two Dixiecrats! What are you smoking tonight Pogo?

 

[tinydancer]

Here's some insight.

When the South Carolina legislature votes 94 to 20 to take it down,

it's time for you RWnuts to shut up.

Shut up about what? History? Historical truths and facts?

 

[Pogo]

It was placed over state capitals and on state flags to protest desegregation.

Yeah, no racism there.

By Democrat Governors correct?

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

And it's a desperation strawman, as nobody ever claimed it happened "overnight" or anything of the sort.

The fact is political parties are not at all about any kind of fixed ideology -- they're about getting people elected, whatever that takes. The DP and RP of 150 years ago more resemble their opposites today than they resemble what they were then. Republicans were the Liberals and the party of big bold new ideas about doing big things with government, including the first affirmative action strokes like land grants to freed slaves, while the DP was the party of "smaller" government and "states rights". By the turn of the century the RP was taking on the interests of corporations and the rich while the DP absorbed the Populist movement, which is why it's now identified with blacks, Jews, immigrants, minorities and women. But that didn't used to be the case, and it happened over a few decades, not "overnight".

The pixie dust, well we're not sure about that part.

By the turn of the century? Are you really truly claiming that the Democrats became a Populist movement in the early 1900's?

Surely you jest.

They absorbed it. Particularly with William Jennings Bryan.

 

[Pogo]

Pre or post 1960's?

Oh please don't try that game with me that one magical night with pixie dust from on high that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats and Dixiecrats all became Republican.

It's a fairytale. A sad pathetic fairytale.

It didn't happen overnight but it most certainly happened. Adult remedial Social Studies 101 can help you make up for those skipped classes in high school.

The party membership changed while the attitudes remained in the regions. The confederate flag belongs to the attitude, not the party.

Well most Dixiecrats stayed Democrats. That's just a fact. If you want to believe in the fairytale that Republicans became Democrats and Democrats became Republicans well that's your choice.

But it's a fairy tale.

"Most Dixiecrats"? Here's the complete list of "Dixiecrats":

1. Strom Thurmond
2. Fielding Wright (Thurmond's running mate)

That's it. End of list. Two people.

Thurmond went Republican in 1964 after the CRA passed. Wright died in 1956, before either Civil Rights Act came up.

Thurmond had already been kicked off the state Democratic ballot for Senator ten years earlier after he endorsed Eisenhower over Stevenson in 1952.

So exactly 50% of "Dixiecrats" stayed kind-of Democrats, while the other 50% died.

Oh bite me that there were only two Dixiecrats! What are you smoking tonight Pogo?

Well? Got any more? Those were the only two offices they ran for -- POTUS and VPOTUS. One election.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Get yourselves an education if you're even capable of reading:

"Black Confederates" by Charles Kelly Barrow

"Black Sourherners in Confederate Armies" by J.H. Segars

"Slavery was it the cause of the war between the states" by Gene Kizer Jr.

"Everything you were taught about the Civil War is Wrong" by Lochlainn Seabrook

"Why I wave the Confederate Flag, written by a black man" by Anthony Hervey

"Black Southerners in Gray" by Arthur W. Bergeron & Thomas Y. Cartwright



Don't believe the radical communists desecration of the Confederacy or comply with their indoctrination in their efforts to turn America into the former Soviet Union.

The Stars and Bars as used today by many people is a symbol of rebellion. And more than southerners fly or wear the flag. Or it represents southern pride like used by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Not racism.

What about the thousands of neo - nazis and skinheads around the world that use the flag to symbolize how much they hate black people?

Why is your definition of the flag more valid today than theirs is?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's some insight.

When the South Carolina legislature votes 94 to 20 to take it down,

it's time for you RWnuts to shut up.

Shut up about what? History? Historical truths and facts?

South Carolina is one of the most conservative states and they just voted overwhelmingly to take down the CSA flag.

Are you too stupid too figure out the meaning of that?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The flag's designer, William T. Thompson had this to say:

Here s the Racist Meaning Of the Confederate Flag In the Words of the Man Who Designed It - Mic

 

[BULLDOG]

Get yourselves an education if you're even capable of reading:

"Black Confederates" by Charles Kelly Barrow

"Black Sourherners in Confederate Armies" by J.H. Segars

"Slavery was it the cause of the war between the states" by Gene Kizer Jr.

"Everything you were taught about the Civil War is Wrong" by Lochlainn Seabrook

"Why I wave the Confederate Flag, written by a black man" by Anthony Hervey

"Black Southerners in Gray" by Arthur W. Bergeron & Thomas Y. Cartwright



Don't believe the radical communists desecration of the Confederacy or comply with their indoctrination in their efforts to turn America into the former Soviet Union.

The Stars and Bars as used today by many people is a symbol of rebellion. And more than southerners fly or wear the flag. Or it represents southern pride like used by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Not racism.

Lynyrd Skynyrd uses it for a prop. If they got more fans by using a flag with a kitten on it, that's what they would use.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

10 Facts About The Confederate Flag That Prove Racism Is Worse Than You Think


By M Fly Smith on June 19, 2015


Out of the atrocities committed in Charleston, South Carolina this week has arisen a new dialogue about racism and the Confederate Battle Flag, which is often mislabeled as the Flag of the Confederated States of America, who lost the American Civil War in 1865. The flag we often see, which is affectionately and erroneously labeled the stars and bars isn’t the actual flag of the Confederacy. That’s exactly what makes the flag flying over the Confederate memorial in South Carolina even more racist.

Read the rest at the link.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Get yourselves an education if you're even capable of reading:

"Black Confederates" by Charles Kelly Barrow

"Black Sourherners in Confederate Armies" by J.H. Segars

"Slavery was it the cause of the war between the states" by Gene Kizer Jr.

"Everything you were taught about the Civil War is Wrong" by Lochlainn Seabrook

"Why I wave the Confederate Flag, written by a black man" by Anthony Hervey

"Black Southerners in Gray" by Arthur W. Bergeron & Thomas Y. Cartwright



Don't believe the radical communists desecration of the Confederacy or comply with their indoctrination in their efforts to turn America into the former Soviet Union.

The Stars and Bars as used today by many people is a symbol of rebellion. And more than southerners fly or wear the flag. Or it represents southern pride like used by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Not racism.

Lynyrd Skynyrd uses it for a prop. If they got more fans by using a flag with a kitten on it, that's what they would use.

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Just because one guy uses it as a prop makes it right HELL NO. you idiot
I can name a 1000 singers who do not use it.

 

[Pogo]

Get yourselves an education if you're even capable of reading:

"Black Confederates" by Charles Kelly Barrow

"Black Sourherners in Confederate Armies" by J.H. Segars

"Slavery was it the cause of the war between the states" by Gene Kizer Jr.

"Everything you were taught about the Civil War is Wrong" by Lochlainn Seabrook

"Why I wave the Confederate Flag, written by a black man" by Anthony Hervey

"Black Southerners in Gray" by Arthur W. Bergeron & Thomas Y. Cartwright



Don't believe the radical communists desecration of the Confederacy or comply with their indoctrination in their efforts to turn America into the former Soviet Union.

The Stars and Bars as used today by many people is a symbol of rebellion. And more than southerners fly or wear the flag. Or it represents southern pride like used by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Not racism.

Lynyrd Skynyrd uses it for a prop. If they got more fans by using a flag with a kitten on it, that's what they would use.

======================================
Just because one guy uses it as a prop makes it right HELL NO. you idiot
I can name a 1000 singers who do not use it.

Again -- Lynyrd Skynyrd used to use it as a symbol of Southern culture.
They quit using it three years ago.