Ken Burns Roosevelt Documentary

Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.

Ah, Col. Candyass pops up....figures you'd be a big FDR supporter. He built all that with TAX DOLLARS which doesn't make him anything other than a typical Rat.....wants credit for other people's work, blames his failures on his opponents. WW2 ended the Depression....nothing FDR did worked because he denied the fundamental concept of FREE ENTERPRISE although his family was uber-rich from it. Johnson's "great society" was the second kick in the head we took from you leftist turds....today $18T in debt and things are worse.

Our lying poser chickenshit shows his yellow head. Where's that Recondo School verification, you poser sack of shit?

What's your social security number, numb nuts? :cool-45:

Listen cockroach, it was obvious to everyone here after the last time you made a fucking fool of yourself that you're a lying, poser, gutless wonder. Now why don't you run off and play in the gay threads where you so obviously belong?
 
Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.

Ah, Col. Candyass pops up....figures you'd be a big FDR supporter. He built all that with TAX DOLLARS which doesn't make him anything other than a typical Rat.....wants credit for other people's work, blames his failures on his opponents. WW2 ended the Depression....nothing FDR did worked because he denied the fundamental concept of FREE ENTERPRISE although his family was uber-rich from it. Johnson's "great society" was the second kick in the head we took from you leftist turds....today $18T in debt and things are worse.

Our lying poser chickenshit shows his yellow head. Where's that Recondo School verification, you poser sack of shit?




"FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president."

Consider the argument that building the bridge will provide x number of jobs.....the unspoken belief is that those jobs would not otherwise come into existence. But...where did the money to pay for those jobs come from? Answer: every dollar given to those bridge workers was taken from other workers in taxes. So...if the bridge cost $50 million, then $50 million (at least) had to be taken from the economy, from taxpayers.
a. And what would have happened to the $50 million had it not been taken? Right....it would have remained in the economy producing jobs.
Henry Hazlitt
Well there is a great example of the difference between shortsightedness and long range vision, policies that benefit a small few and policies that benefit the masses for generations. We are still driving over the bridges in passenger cars and trucks that profit commercially. As a bonus we are still collecting revenues from them 75 years after they were built.

I believe most of that was built by Eisenhower not FDR.
Your belief is wrong. Eisenhower built the interstate system which took to routes of the already established bridges.
 
Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.

Ah, Col. Candyass pops up....figures you'd be a big FDR supporter. He built all that with TAX DOLLARS which doesn't make him anything other than a typical Rat.....wants credit for other people's work, blames his failures on his opponents. WW2 ended the Depression....nothing FDR did worked because he denied the fundamental concept of FREE ENTERPRISE although his family was uber-rich from it. Johnson's "great society" was the second kick in the head we took from you leftist turds....today $18T in debt and things are worse.

Our lying poser chickenshit shows his yellow head. Where's that Recondo School verification, you poser sack of shit?

What's your social security number, numb nuts? :cool-45:

Listen cockroach, it was obvious to everyone here after the last time you made a fucking fool of yourself that you're a lying, poser, gutless wonder. Now why don't you run off and play in the gay threads where you so obviously belong?

Hardly...none of them, including you, know anything about LRRP training, who was accepted into MACV RECONDO, or the nature of our work. You're a joke, a bad smell. I've uncovered scores of fakes on these boards....you're all the same...losers.
 
I believe post #133 made clear to all what an ignorant slime bucket you are.

Right now you’re probably trying to brush something off your face…you didn’t realize it was the floor.

Post #133 looks exactly like another mindless scree of completely unrelated, out of context statements from more books you never read.



You seem to be bereft of either a cogent argument or a cerebrum.....and, of course, honesty.

Your shallow, politically oriented, web based, pop culture revisionist history could never produce anything like a cogent argument.




Let's see you try to answer post #133.....ripped you a new one, huh?


It’s too bad stupidity isn’t painful.

You have yet to establish your hair brained theory about how FDRs policies prolonged the Second World War. I've already dispensed with post #133 as superficial nonsense.


Liar.


How to address you...other than as an insult to the bottom of the barrel.
 
Ah, Col. Candyass pops up....figures you'd be a big FDR supporter. He built all that with TAX DOLLARS which doesn't make him anything other than a typical Rat.....wants credit for other people's work, blames his failures on his opponents. WW2 ended the Depression....nothing FDR did worked because he denied the fundamental concept of FREE ENTERPRISE although his family was uber-rich from it. Johnson's "great society" was the second kick in the head we took from you leftist turds....today $18T in debt and things are worse.

Our lying poser chickenshit shows his yellow head. Where's that Recondo School verification, you poser sack of shit?




"FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president."

Consider the argument that building the bridge will provide x number of jobs.....the unspoken belief is that those jobs would not otherwise come into existence. But...where did the money to pay for those jobs come from? Answer: every dollar given to those bridge workers was taken from other workers in taxes. So...if the bridge cost $50 million, then $50 million (at least) had to be taken from the economy, from taxpayers.
a. And what would have happened to the $50 million had it not been taken? Right....it would have remained in the economy producing jobs.
Henry Hazlitt
Well there is a great example of the difference between shortsightedness and long range vision, policies that benefit a small few and policies that benefit the masses for generations. We are still driving over the bridges in passenger cars and trucks that profit commercially. As a bonus we are still collecting revenues from them 75 years after they were built.

I believe most of that was built by Eisenhower not FDR.
Your belief is wrong. Eisenhower built the interstate system which took to routes of the already established bridges.

Listen, you want to tangle fine by me. Eisenhower built the interstate system...that required thousands of miles of highway and thousands of bridges....all heavy enough to handle tank traffic...it was intended as a national defense program civilians could use. Those old bridges were either replaced or reinforced.....that's how it worked.
 
Post #133 looks exactly like another mindless scree of completely unrelated, out of context statements from more books you never read.



You seem to be bereft of either a cogent argument or a cerebrum.....and, of course, honesty.

Your shallow, politically oriented, web based, pop culture revisionist history could never produce anything like a cogent argument.




Let's see you try to answer post #133.....ripped you a new one, huh?


It’s too bad stupidity isn’t painful.

You have yet to establish your hair brained theory about how FDRs policies prolonged the Second World War. I've already dispensed with post #133 as superficial nonsense.


Liar.


How to address you...other than as an insult to the bottom of the barrel.

You'll have to do better than that if you want to re-write history.
 
I've been very specific, with actual words from those who knew the truth....
Why are you certain that they knew the truth rather than giving their opinions?



That suggestion I made about research?

You should consider it.
All you are doing is cut and pasting the opinions of people who disagreed with FDR.

A 75 year old opinion is still just an opinion. It's not wine, getting better with age.


The irony is that your post applies more accurately to what you 'learn' about Franklin Roosevelt.

Again....research.

I provide links and sources so that you may do exactly that.
You provide links to OPINIONS.

Your sources all give their OPINIONS.

You never provide links to vettable, provable FACTS.
 
Really? Then explain how Stalin had any authority over FDR.


They were soul-mates.

1. He gave official recognition to Stalin in 1933

As leader of the Soviet Union? He was. Why not recognize that FACT?

Which countries did NOT recognize Stalin as the leader of the USSR?

2. He provided lend lease largesse to Stalin far and above what was necessary

Who says? ( and whomever you name, that would be their OPINION.)

3. He allowed and encouraged Stalin's spies in his administration.

If that's a factual statement, then back it up with news accounts from the era. Or anything that isn't an OPINION.

4. He insisted on a communist as his second vice president

OK, prove that.

5. He sent uranium and plans for the atomic bomb to Stalin

Prove that with a fact-based link to uncovered or declassified documents from the U.S. government. Because that's the only way that could be proven.

6. All of this with the foreknowledge that Stalin was a homicidal psychopath.

What does that say about Fred Koch?

7. He acquiesced to d-day, not where his generals suggested, but where Stalin insisted.

Again - prove that with verifiable facts. You won't. You can't.

What is your explanation for the above?

And...if your did your own research, and verified same....would you have had the courage to ask your history teachers/professors to explain their support of FDR in the face of these facts?

Would you?

They are not FACTS! For fuck's sake!


Now, after all that tap-dancing, answer the question you are avoiding:

How did Stalin have any authority over FDR?

I predict that you will punt again.
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3. Check the timeline. FDR didn't embrace the USSR out of a need in a fight against Hitler....in fact, at that time, FDR had a rosy relationship with Germany. So....why overlook the genocide?

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’



Did I just eat your lunch, or what????
I think you're eating glue.

The documentary plainly shows - many times over the 1930s - that FDR did NOT have a rosy relationship with Germany. His public and private writings and speeches clearly prove that.

Yet, you are eager to swallow whole the propaganda from a Nazi newspaper, because Democrat.
 
3. Check the timeline. FDR didn't embrace the USSR out of a need in a fight against Hitler....in fact, at that time, FDR had a rosy relationship with Germany. So....why overlook the genocide?

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’



Did I just eat your lunch, or what????
I think you're eating glue.

The documentary plainly shows - many times over the 1930s - that FDR did NOT have a rosy relationship with Germany. His public and private writings and speeches clearly prove that.

Yet, you are eager to swallow whole the propaganda from a Nazi newspaper, because Democrat.

She refuses to recognize that American business wanted Russia acknowledge and recognized so they could do business will Russia..One of the main benefactors was the Dad of the current Koch brothers that used a new oil extraction process called fracking...It was a bust in the US but in the USSR it was a hit..
 
Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.

Then why did he want to pack the court?
The documentary explains it. He had just gotten millions of Americans back to work with his list of alphabet agencies and we were starting to come out of the Depression. The Right-Wingers on the court wanted to nullify these agencies by ruling that his creation of them was unconstitutional.
 
A single cent of tax money used to subsidize lefty propaganda is too much.
Actual news accounts from the 1930s are "lefty propaganda"?

This is why the Right-Wing is a joke whom no one takes seriously, except other wingnuts.
It's how the accounts are framed. PBS is notoriously left wing. Left wingers' denial of that obvious reality is what makes anything they say dubious.
They are "framed" as the actual news stories and accounts from the 1930s. PBS isn't interpreting anything.
What is omitted is part of the framing. PBS is notoriously left wing.
Facts and reality are notoriously Left-Wing.

Is that what you meant?
 
Has anyone been watching? It's fantastic and incredibly informative, even if you think you are familiar with their presidencies.

Every conservative should watch it (especially @PoliticalChic ). It will debunk all the garbage and revisionist history that dopes like the ones on this site continually try to sell.
I think that was an excellent documentary. I learned quite a a bit. I really didn't know that FDR idolized TR. One of the commentators said he thought one of FDR's greatest achievements was his accomplishments in preparing American for WWII. I agree with him. In 1938, both the American people and Congress were dead set on keeping America out of the war. There was little interest in upgrading the small ill-equipped US military which was no match for Germany. Even his own party fought him on lend lease. And the American people were appalled at the idea of instituting a draft. However he did it all and a lot more. One has to wonder how American would have responded when war came if FDR had not been successful.
 
Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.

Then why did he want to pack the court?
The documentary explains it. He had just gotten millions of Americans back to work with his list of alphabet agencies and we were starting to come out of the Depression. The Right-Wingers on the court wanted to nullify these agencies by ruling that his creation of them was unconstitutional.

Show anything but an OPINION that we were coming out of the Depression before Pearl Harbor. There is none because we weren't. CCC workers were paid a DOLLAR A DAY plus slop and a cot...they had to send home $25 of it....so how did that help the economy? His NRA was completely unconstitutional and he knew it but got it passed anyway....when the Supremes threw it out, he used it to get himself reelected. Just like Obozo...he made grandiose speeches and then expected somebody to follow through....he never did. We might still be in a Depression if we hadn't been attacked by the Japs.
 
Has anyone been watching? It's fantastic and incredibly informative, even if you think you are familiar with their presidencies.

Every conservative should watch it (especially @PoliticalChic ). It will debunk all the garbage and revisionist history that dopes like the ones on this site continually try to sell.
I think that was an excellent documentary. I learned quite a a bit. I really didn't know that FDR idolized TR. One of the commentators said he thought one of FDR's greatest achievements was his accomplishments in preparing American for WWII. I agree with him. In 1938, both the American people and Congress were dead set on keeping America out of the war. There was little interest in upgrading the small ill-equipped US military which was no match for Germany. Even his own party fought him on lend lease. And the American people were appalled at the idea of instituting a draft. However he did it all and a lot more. One has to wonder how American would have responded when war came if FDR had not been successful.

Except that's a fantasy created by Burns to help Senate Rats in November....FDR wanted nothing to do with a war with Germany....he named bootlegger Joe Kennedy to be his ambassador to England....Kennedy convinced him to stay out of it when we could have helped France like they helped us free ourselves from King George. Then his commander at Pearl ignored warnings from signal intel that the Japs were poised for an attack in the Pacific. They were so UNprepared, the war plans were in a time-locked safe they couldn't open until the next morning. It's just blind luck our Carrier Fleet was delayed by two days from port of call at Pearl....otherwise the Japs would have been shelling Los Angeles, SanFag, and Seattle with little response from ourselves.
 
Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.
I think few people realize just how many public projects were completed by the WPA. So much of what you read is about waste, costs, delays, and mistakes. However, the American infrastructure was effective rebuilt providing American the backbone it would needed to support the war effort. The WPA built or improved 651,000 miles of roads, built, repaired, or improved 124,011 bridges 19,700 miles of water mains and 500 water treatment plants. Workers built 24,000 miles of sidewalks; 12,800 playgrounds; 24,000 miles of storm and sewer lines; 1200 airport buildings; 226 hospitals; and more than 5,900 schools.

Other notable public works projects included the Hoover Damn, Grand Coulee Damn, the Overseas Highway that connects Miami and Key West, the Lincoln Tunnel, the Blue Ridge Parkway, the Triborough Bridge, and LaGuardia Airport.
 

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