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Why are you upset that he and Trump seem to be getting along?
I don't like my presidents to be too chummy with dictators giving them propaganda wins and raising their international stature.
North Korea hasn't earned the right to meet with a U.S President, Just like Russia doesn't deserve to be in the G8, it was charity that they were there in the first place.
FDR called Stalin “Uncle Joe”...
Fact is there are countries out there with dictatorships & little personal freedom. We still have to live with them whether we like it or not...
Well, without 'Uncle Joe' (named so by the media, not FDR) we would have been in deep shit so I guess we got something out of that, didn't we? What have we gotten from Kim? Nada.
Yes we got a Cold War & the threat of nuclear annihilation from Uncle Joe. Great deal there!
So, what should we have done? Are you really wanting to blame FDR for the rise of the USSR? That's batshit crazy considering he died before the end of the war. What would you have had us do? At least we won the war thanks to the help of all our allies, we got something there.
I honestly don’t get you lefties sometimes. You say no war under any circumstances but you’re against dilplomacy because Trump happens to be the one doing it.
For starters, I don't know anyone who says 'no war under any circumstances', we just don't like bullshit wars over fake WMDs or starting an unproductive twitter spat that we will most likely see again.
I'm also not against diplomacy or negotiating with North Korea, I certainly don't know anyone who has said that except for the Trumpists here who wanted to nuke North Korea during that whole idiotic 'rocketman' shit.
There was no “deal” made in Singapore. There was only a framework started.
No shit. Once again, nobody is claiming a deal was made. What was made is that we gave Kim his globa debutante ball for which Kim will use for his own propaganda purposes like we always knew they would. We also apparently without South Korea's knowledge and tipping off China have decided stop our military training with our ally on the peninsula, according to Trump those military exercises are 'provocative' which is exactly what North Korea had been calling them for years. Trump literally used North Korea's words of propaganda.
As a bonus we get to hear the President of the United States tell the world that Kim loves his people, another propaganda win for NK. Not to mention that Kim is also smart, funny and a strong leader. All Kim had to do to get this is sign a fucking piece of paper saying they will work towards denucleariztion, even though they've already done that in the past and broke their word.
This is how countries conduct business. Not every country is a model of Jeffersonian Democracy, but guess what, we have to find a way to get along. Having some stability on the peninsula would help us immensely.
This is not how countries conduct business with rogue dictatorships who have broken every promise, starved, tortured and murdered it's own people. Kidnapped citizens from Japan and South Korea on their own land and fired missiles over our allies and threatened nuclear destruction.
We have to find a way to get along, that's funny. Why not just let North Korea do whatever it wants, so far that appears to be Trump's plan. Why not just open up trade now? That's a way to 'get along', isn't it?
So all you are worried about is some propaganda points the Kim regime may rack up?? All of these other countries who are clearly lining up to become the next North Korea..
North Korea has been breaking agreements since 1994 when Carter went over there & we tried to pay them off.
And this Iran “deal”...great deal there. Let’s give billions to a rogue regime who murders its own citizens, threatens war in a strategic location, threatens Israel & promotes terrorism. Oh yes, what a deal! Sound familiar?