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[sealybobo]

Friends husband was just laid off from job he has had for 11 years.IT/Computer etc. Outsourcing entire department to Philippines! Oh the wonderful joys of Capitalism. Bosses get richer,long term SKILLED employees get the shaft and slaves do work for pennies in Philippines....or should I say indentured servants.He is filing for unemployment but that's not the point...its wrong and should be stopped.

When it happens to you. What was his attitude before he got laid off? If he know IT he'll be fine.

Just curious is he a republican?

 

[Marxist]

When did Hugo get into office? He was in for 14 years, look what was happeningbefore he got into office, yeah, he wasn't perfect, but it's a lie to say he did nothing.

It's a lie to claim it was successful.

Utter bullshit. If all you want to do is look at inflation over 14 years, be my guest, but Hugo improved healthcare, education, food distribution, cut back malnutrition, provided shelter.. Not a failure

Did he live better than his other socialists? We're there still elitists at the end of the day? The answer is yes, therefore only a few select got to prosper while most the country got the leftovers. In the end, those in the oilfields worked, owned nothing and were paid. In the end all those that worked, worked for the government and got what the government gave them, they owned no share in any profits, that went to Venezuela's elite class.

Yes, every country has a "ruling class" what's your point? Venezuela was socialist by claim anyways, that's a fact. You're actually describing every country if we use your standards. Bullshit, even with venezuelas system, look at how Hugo uses the profits, and compare it to how much was wasted on elites before him. More bullshit from you

Sorry, but all you provide is your opinion, you have done nothing but back your position with opinion. I gave you articles and facts from organizations. If you think Venezuela is all that great fine, I don't. I don't want to live in a country that has higher inflation, higher unemployment, worse healthcare, worse education, higher malnutrition rates, and no free speech, than where I currently live. To say that they are proof socialism works, then I'll take capitalism, where the inflation is lower, the unemployment is lower, where the healthcare is better, the education is better, malnutrition rates are lower and we have free speech.

No, you didn't, and I provide actual facts you fucking moron! Just look into venezuelas oil spending and where it went before Hugo. I think it's better them what it was, the facts are there. Yeah, comparing Venezuela and America is utter bullshit, Venezuela improved all of those things. The free speech isn't perfect in Venezuela, but that's in the media.. I never said they are proof that socialism works, they aren't even socialist, they just claim to be. Yeah, you'll take capitalism in an imperialist first world country.

 

[paulitician]

Friends husband was just laid off from job he has had for 11 years.IT/Computer etc. Outsourcing entire department to Philippines! Oh the wonderful joys of Capitalism. Bosses get richer,long term SKILLED employees get the shaft and slaves do work for pennies in Philippines....or should I say indentured servants.He is filing for unemployment but that's not the point...its wrong and should be stopped.

When it happens to you. What was his attitude before he got laid off? If he know IT he'll be fine.

Just curious is he a republican?

Well, we do know one thing. Republicans sure ain't gonna help him out.

 

[Eaglewings]

Creepy how everything is being sent over there..Even our food and water. They are sending chickens and meat over there to be processed and sent back to us...as well as Nestle sucking the Great Lakes dry and bottled over there. This is wrong........

Wow dude. Do you need an umbrella to protect you from the falling sky or will a tissue suffice?

WTF...I guess you don't see what is going on until it hits you in the nose. I sell online a specialty vintage item, and nothing is valuable from China because its all poisonous crap that is killing our dogs, its in our children's formula what ever. They get away with exporting their crap into the USA while making it hard for us to export to them.

 

[Marxist]

Friends husband was just laid off from job he has had for 11 years.IT/Computer etc. Outsourcing entire department to Philippines! Oh the wonderful joys of Capitalism. Bosses get richer,long term SKILLED employees get the shaft and slaves do work for pennies in Philippines....or should I say indentured servants.He is filing for unemployment but that's not the point...its wrong and should be stopped.

When it happens to you. What was his attitude before he got laid off? If he know IT he'll be fine.

Just curious is he a republican?

Well, we do know one thing. Republicans sure ain't gonna help him out.

Whatever happened to "dynamic conservatism"

 

[Marxist]

Creepy how everything is being sent over there..Even our food and water. They are sending chickens and meat over there to be processed and sent back to us...as well as Nestle sucking the Great Lakes dry and bottled over there. This is wrong........

Wow dude. Do you need an umbrella to protect you from the falling sky or will a tissue suffice?

WTF...I guess you don't see what is going on until it hits you in the nose. I sell online a specialty vintage item, and nothing is valuable from China because its all poisonous crap that is killing our dogs, its in our children's formula what ever. They get away with exporting their crap into the USA while making it hard for us to export to them.

Hey, capitalists love China.

 

[Redfish]

Rich people can protect themselves from inflation, poor people, not so much.
A country that can't even keep toilet paper in the stores is a failure.
Especially because Communists are so full of shit.

The old toilet paper shit. Yeah, that sucks, but it doesn't change the facts of what Hugo did. Venezuela is socialist by claim anyways, not by actions. your stupidity is prevalent.

Venezuela is socialist by claim anyways, not by actions.

That's a relief! If they were socialist by actions, things would be much worse.

Oh really? Workers actually owning production? THE HORRROOORR

Like Cuba?

Socialism by claim.. Check my signature on socialism for a basic education.

give us a list of the successful countries who actually successfully practiced socialism.

tell us where "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" has ever worked.

 

[boilermaker55]

NAFTA and TPP.

Friends husband was just laid off from job he has had for 11 years.IT/Computer etc. Outsourcing entire department to Philippines! Oh the wonderful joys of Capitalism. Bosses get richer,long term SKILLED employees get the shaft and slaves do work for pennies in Philippines....or should I say indentured servants.He is filing for unemployment but that's not the point...its wrong and should be stopped.

 

[Marxist]

The old toilet paper shit. Yeah, that sucks, but it doesn't change the facts of what Hugo did. Venezuela is socialist by claim anyways, not by actions. your stupidity is prevalent.

Venezuela is socialist by claim anyways, not by actions.

That's a relief! If they were socialist by actions, things would be much worse.

Oh really? Workers actually owning production? THE HORRROOORR

Like Cuba?

Socialism by claim.. Check my signature on socialism for a basic education.

give us a list of the successful countries who actually successfully practiced socialism.

tell us where "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" has ever worked.

Revolutionary Catalonia
Paris commune
Free territory Ukraine.

 

[boilermaker55]

And you need to ask why your republican/democratic representative/congressman will vote in favor.
Spread your hatred around on this type of legislation.

Friends husband was just laid off from job he has had for 11 years.IT/Computer etc. Outsourcing entire department to Philippines! Oh the wonderful joys of Capitalism. Bosses get richer,long term SKILLED employees get the shaft and slaves do work for pennies in Philippines....or should I say indentured servants.He is filing for unemployment but that's not the point...its wrong and should be stopped.

Tell him to ask BOBO why BOBO is so determined to sign a new trade deal that will further gut the middle class worker.

 

[Redfish]

Venezuela is socialist by claim anyways, not by actions.

That's a relief! If they were socialist by actions, things would be much worse.

Oh really? Workers actually owning production? THE HORRROOORR

Like Cuba?

Socialism by claim.. Check my signature on socialism for a basic education.

give us a list of the successful countries who actually successfully practiced socialism.

tell us where "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" has ever worked.

Revolutionary Catalonia
Paris commune
Free territory Ukraine.

I said "countries". Nice try, but FAIL

 

[Papageorgio]

It's a lie to claim it was successful.

Utter bullshit. If all you want to do is look at inflation over 14 years, be my guest, but Hugo improved healthcare, education, food distribution, cut back malnutrition, provided shelter.. Not a failure

Did he live better than his other socialists? We're there still elitists at the end of the day? The answer is yes, therefore only a few select got to prosper while most the country got the leftovers. In the end, those in the oilfields worked, owned nothing and were paid. In the end all those that worked, worked for the government and got what the government gave them, they owned no share in any profits, that went to Venezuela's elite class.

Yes, every country has a "ruling class" what's your point? Venezuela was socialist by claim anyways, that's a fact. You're actually describing every country if we use your standards. Bullshit, even with venezuelas system, look at how Hugo uses the profits, and compare it to how much was wasted on elites before him. More bullshit from you

Sorry, but all you provide is your opinion, you have done nothing but back your position with opinion. I gave you articles and facts from organizations. If you think Venezuela is all that great fine, I don't. I don't want to live in a country that has higher inflation, higher unemployment, worse healthcare, worse education, higher malnutrition rates, and no free speech, than where I currently live. To say that they are proof socialism works, then I'll take capitalism, where the inflation is lower, the unemployment is lower, where the healthcare is better, the education is better, malnutrition rates are lower and we have free speech.

No, you didn't, and I provide actual facts you fucking moron! Just look into venezuelas oil spending and where it went before Hugo. I think it's better them what it was, the facts are there. Yeah, comparing Venezuela and America is utter bullshit, Venezuela improved all of those things. The free speech isn't perfect in Venezuela, but that's in the media.. I never said they are proof that socialism works, they aren't even socialist, they just claim to be. Yeah, you'll take capitalism in an imperialist first world country.

I gave facts from various sites and provide links, now if you want to go off and start calling me names, I can go that route to.

You are an utter fucking dumbshit, how an asshole like you can think is beyond me, you are a socialist piece of shit and you need to go find some fucking socialist country to make you happy because a bitch like you is obviously miserable waste of human life in this country, why is it that you fucking wastes of space can't get your fucking act together and you then you pieces of shit want to blame your ducking miserable life on us hard working Americans that are trying to make this country a better place to live.

There, now is this game you you want to play or would you rather have a civil discussion, because it is one way or the other with me, I don't play games with your sort, it is either civil or we go to the Flame Zone.

 

[Marxist]

Oh really? Workers actually owning production? THE HORRROOORR

Like Cuba?

Socialism by claim.. Check my signature on socialism for a basic education.

give us a list of the successful countries who actually successfully practiced socialism.

tell us where "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" has ever worked.

Revolutionary Catalonia
Paris commune
Free territory Ukraine.

I said "countries". Nice try, but FAIL

Not a failure, and no countries are actually socialist, they only claim to be, Jesus.

 

[boilermaker55]

If you would educate yourself on international trade and how the other countries manage their currency and their "corporation" you might understand why the middle(working Class) is shrinking day by day. Of course, you blame the worker. Such an easy aspect for you to run right too.

Friends husband was just laid off from job he has had for 11 years.IT/Computer etc. Outsourcing entire department to Philippines! Oh the wonderful joys of Capitalism. Bosses get richer,long term SKILLED employees get the shaft and slaves do work for pennies in Philippines....or should I say indentured servants.He is filing for unemployment but that's not the point...its wrong and should be stopped.

The USA has the highest corporate tax rate in the entire world. Was your friend a union member? Why is there no US tax penalty for sending jobs overseas?

How do you propose to stop outsourcing when its the only way some companies can survive?

 

[Marxist]

Utter bullshit. If all you want to do is look at inflation over 14 years, be my guest, but Hugo improved healthcare, education, food distribution, cut back malnutrition, provided shelter.. Not a failure

Did he live better than his other socialists? We're there still elitists at the end of the day? The answer is yes, therefore only a few select got to prosper while most the country got the leftovers. In the end, those in the oilfields worked, owned nothing and were paid. In the end all those that worked, worked for the government and got what the government gave them, they owned no share in any profits, that went to Venezuela's elite class.

Yes, every country has a "ruling class" what's your point? Venezuela was socialist by claim anyways, that's a fact. You're actually describing every country if we use your standards. Bullshit, even with venezuelas system, look at how Hugo uses the profits, and compare it to how much was wasted on elites before him. More bullshit from you

Sorry, but all you provide is your opinion, you have done nothing but back your position with opinion. I gave you articles and facts from organizations. If you think Venezuela is all that great fine, I don't. I don't want to live in a country that has higher inflation, higher unemployment, worse healthcare, worse education, higher malnutrition rates, and no free speech, than where I currently live. To say that they are proof socialism works, then I'll take capitalism, where the inflation is lower, the unemployment is lower, where the healthcare is better, the education is better, malnutrition rates are lower and we have free speech.

No, you didn't, and I provide actual facts you fucking moron! Just look into venezuelas oil spending and where it went before Hugo. I think it's better them what it was, the facts are there. Yeah, comparing Venezuela and America is utter bullshit, Venezuela improved all of those things. The free speech isn't perfect in Venezuela, but that's in the media.. I never said they are proof that socialism works, they aren't even socialist, they just claim to be. Yeah, you'll take capitalism in an imperialist first world country.

I gave facts from various sites and provide links, now if you want to go off and start calling me names, I can go that route to.

You are an utter fucking dumbshit, how an asshole like you can think is beyond me, you are a socialist piece of shit and you need to go find some fucking socialist country to make you happy because a bitch like you is obviously miserable waste of human life in this country, why is it that you fucking wastes of space can't get your fucking act together and you then you pieces of shit want to blame your ducking miserable life on us hard working Americans that are trying to make this country a better place to live.

There, now is this game you you want to play or would you rather have a civil discussion, because it is one way or the other with me, I don't play games with your sort, it is either civil or we go to the Flame Zone.

You posted absolutely nothing regarding Hugo's oil spending and the health gains. Etc.. Sorry, try again.

 

[Redfish]

Like Cuba?

Socialism by claim.. Check my signature on socialism for a basic education.

give us a list of the successful countries who actually successfully practiced socialism.

tell us where "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" has ever worked.

Revolutionary Catalonia
Paris commune
Free territory Ukraine.

I said "countries". Nice try, but FAIL

Not a failure, and no countries are actually socialist, they only claim to be, Jesus.

so you admit that socialism has never worked, thanks for your honesty.

I know you worship me but I am not Jesus.

 

[paulitician]

Outsourcing American Jobs is as Un-American as it gets. Yet most Republicans continue defending it. They'll even go as far as blaming American Workers. The Republican Party is lost.

 

[Marxist]

Socialism by claim.. Check my signature on socialism for a basic education.

give us a list of the successful countries who actually successfully practiced socialism.

tell us where "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" has ever worked.

Revolutionary Catalonia
Paris commune
Free territory Ukraine.

I said "countries". Nice try, but FAIL

Not a failure, and no countries are actually socialist, they only claim to be, Jesus.

so you admit that socialism has never worked, thanks for your honesty.

I know you worship me but I am not Jesus.

I just gave you three examples. About time to ignore you.

 

[2aguy]

In terms of owning production. Making distribution decisions..

Yeah ... I do that ... It is my job.
Anyone else is welcome to do the same ... They just need to do it.

.

It's not that easy, and controlling distribution of food is not done properly at all, same with providing shelter... You're lucky to be a capitalist, the factors to become one become increasingly more difficult as time goes on.. It really is based on connections, social status, education available, initial money... Maybe you'll get lucky.

You really are clueless about how things work aren't you......

 

[Redfish]

Outsourcing American Jobs is as Un-American as it gets. Yet most Republicans continue defending it. They'll even go as far as blaming American Workers. The Republican Party is lost.

who is defending it? give us a list or STFU with your lies.