Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

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While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time
Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
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The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.
Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
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LOL What a fool you are, Geaux. I have several guns, long and hand guns. Only the two from Italy, replicas of Civil War era handguns, were there ever any papers filled out. The others were obtained from private individuals. None of them are fast firing assault weapons. And, yes, I have used a gun in self defense. A single shot 12 gauge. Was completely adequate. No need for assault weapons in private hands.
You have no clue what a military grade weapon is... over the counter A.R. 15's are not military grade. Jack weed
To a liberal this is a Military Grade weapon Ruger 10/22

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Please, most of us have grown up and no longer play war.
IS that because you are a Pajama Boy? Must piss you off that there are still REAL men in the United States?

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There have been few real men in the USA since LIFE magazine cost 10¢.
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You assume he got the guns just before he fired them into the crowd

That was a fully auto rifle which is THE most tightly controlled weapon in the country

He either had a federal permit for the gun or illegally obtained and /or modified it

then we shouldn't let people buy guns that can be easily modified to full auto. Or that were originally designed as battlefield weapons.

This seems pretty simple, except for the nutters who are compensating for their 'shortcomings'.
It is not easy converting in a semi automatic to auto… Of course she would not know that though. LOL
 
Why didn't she go to the police?...
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Las Vegas shooting: 'YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE' – SHOCK WARNING 45 minutes before attack
Mon, Oct 2, 2017 | A LAS VEGAS shooting witness was reportedly warned that everyone at the Route 91 music festival was “going to die” 45 minutes before the attack near the Mandalay Bay hotel.
More than 50 people were killed and over 200 more injured after the Las Vegas shooting, according to Las Vegas police. Chilling video has emerged showing the moment gunshots ring out during the busy music festival, cutting short Jason Aldean’s appearance as the packed out audience escaped the shooter in terror. Joseph Lombardo, the sheriff of Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, confirmed the shooter, Stephen Paddock, had been killed by police, adding his companion Marilou Danley remains at large.

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Las Vegas shooting witness video latest news​

One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were “all going to die” after pushing her way to the front of the venue. The witness, 21, told local news: “She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die. “They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious.” She described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man. The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like “everyday people”. She added she and her friends had just made it back to their hotel room when the gunfire started.

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Concert-goers were forced to flee after the gunman opened fire​

Marilou Danley, a person of interest in the Las Vegas Police investigation, was said to be an Asian woman and approximately 4ft 11ins in height. Mr Lombardo said: “We have not located her at this time ad we are invested in talking to her for follow-up.” There is no confirmed police link to the eyewitnesses' claim and Marilou Danley. Ms Danley and her vehicle has now been located by the police. Police are also looking for two cars, a Hyundai Tuscon B40 with Nevada plate 114B40 and a Chrysler Pacific Touring with the licence plate 19D401. Both vehicles are registered to the suspect located the Las Vegas hotel. The attack is now the deadliest shooting in US history.

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People run for cover at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival​

The massacre surpasses the Orlando shooting at the Pulse nightclub in June 2016 when 49 people were killed. Mr Lombardo confirmed one of the victims was an off-duty police officer who worked for the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Another one of the department’s officers is in a critical condition, the Sherriff added he expects the investigation to be long and protracted. Mr Lombardo said: "We are looking at in excess of 50 individuals dead and over 200 individuals injured ... Obviously, this is a tragic incident and one that we have never experienced in this valley. My condolences go out to the loved ones. “That number for family and friends to get an update on loved ones is 1866 535 5654.”

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The shooting is now the deadliest in US history​

While discussing the suspect, he added: “We located numerous firearms within the room that he occupied. All’s we know is that they were rifles. We are executing a search warrant on the room.We have officers at his residence, and we will be executing a search warrant there also shortly. “It is going to be a long and tedious investigation. We are bringing in all the resources of the FBI to assist us in this investigation, in particular to their victim witness advocates and their CSI folks to help us process the scene and ensure that we are getting all the evidence that we can possibly obtain.”

Las Vegas shooting: 'YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE' – SHOCK WARNING 45 minutes before attack


Not going to the police smacks of being complicit.
 
While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time
Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
.

The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.
Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
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Automatic weapons are already highly restricted, if this guy was able to go full rock and roll the gun was probably illegal or heavily modified from a legal weapon.

and we still don't know exactly what he was using and how much time he had to do it. We also don't know if all the casualties were shooting casualties or crowd-crush casualties.

And as I have stated in other posts we can talk about certain restrictions when NYC stops making me wait 3-6 months and pay $700 in fees for a license to keep a revolver in my own apartment.
Like most other regulatory issues, it could easily be that we go too far on some and not nearly far enough on others. These things are almost always tossed into existence in a sloppy, haphazard way as it is. I can tell you that's sure as hell how it is in the financial industry.

That's why a more comprehensive discussion is needed, and do you think we're capable of that right now, or within light years of it? I don't.
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If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures
While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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The weekly gun carnage is mostly in our inner cities. These events are tragic and make a big splash on the nightly news, but statistically they are extremely rare considering the amount of people who own guns and the amount of crazy people we have in this country.

And we still don't know what type of weapon he used, how he got it, who he actually is, and how the people died and got hurt. (Did some die from the stampede after the shooting started or were they all shot?)

Until we know all that we can't begin to figure out what happened, why it happened, and what to do about it.

Nothing to see here people....move along

Gunning down 50-60 people is statistically irrelevant when we have 8500 murdered each year
Go back to complaining about NFL players kneeling and forget about doing anything about guns
In the grand scheme of things we have much bigger fish to fry...
2017 Real Time Death Statistics in America
 
Whoever this shooter was, he was a piece of shit. No matter if he was a "Trump supporter" or "a Bernie guy". I'm willing to bet he was on the radar for being a nutcase, but in America nutcases are allowed to be free instead of being locked up for everyone's safety. We need to make some big changes to keep people safe.

Going forward, it's going to be practically a strip search to attend an event such as this.
In this case the shooter was in a Hotel window 32 stories up shooting down at concert goers ...the guy was not in attendance at the concert ...
 
In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time
Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
.

The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.
Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
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Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people
 
LOL What a fool you are, Geaux. I have several guns, long and hand guns. Only the two from Italy, replicas of Civil War era handguns, were there ever any papers filled out. The others were obtained from private individuals. None of them are fast firing assault weapons. And, yes, I have used a gun in self defense. A single shot 12 gauge. Was completely adequate. No need for assault weapons in private hands.
You have no clue what a military grade weapon is... over the counter A.R. 15's are not military grade. Jack weed
To a liberal this is a Military Grade weapon Ruger 10/22

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Please, most of us have grown up and no longer play war.

I own two shotguns here in the State of Texas and never once do I consider them as toys but for hunting and land protection.

So I do not get where you believe every gun owner is playing war, but then again you do not live in the states so your knowledge of the rural American society is limited to TV series, Huff, and fictional movies.
Where I live, we do not need firearms for land protection. We have an army.
Congratulations.

We have 2.

One. A standing Army and 2. A citizen army. Just in case.
 
Whoever this shooter was, he was a piece of shit. No matter if he was a "Trump supporter" or "a Bernie guy". I'm willing to bet he was on the radar for being a nutcase, but in America nutcases are allowed to be free instead of being locked up for everyone's safety. We need to make some big changes to keep people safe.

Going forward, it's going to be practically a strip search to attend an event such as this.

Or we can just round up and deport/imprison terrorist types: ANTIFA, BLM, ISIS ect.

Do you think that sort of a sweep will pick up white retired guys who hang out in Vegas, gamble, and go to shows?
 
In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks Nothing we can do about it.

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time.

What an utterly tasteless thing to say. Hold your tongue.

Painting all gun owners and pro 2nd Amendment people in the same stripe as this murderer/coward?

I have very little respect for people who paint with broad brushes. Welcome to the club, asshole.

It is the America we live in

We are willing to put up with an occasional massacre just so long as we don't inconvenience our gun owners. Next guy who wants to break the record and go out in a blaze of glory will have ready access to the best weapons and ammo he can afford.

But does anyone really care? We didn't care about a massacre of 30 six year old first graders. Why should we care about 50-60 dead country music fans?
 
Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
.

The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.
Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
.

Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people


Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?
 
In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time
Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
.

The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.
Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
.

Automatic weapons are already highly restricted, if this guy was able to go full rock and roll the gun was probably illegal or heavily modified from a legal weapon.

and we still don't know exactly what he was using and how much time he had to do it. We also don't know if all the casualties were shooting casualties or crowd-crush casualties.

And as I have stated in other posts we can talk about certain restrictions when NYC stops making me wait 3-6 months and pay $700 in fees for a license to keep a revolver in my own apartment.
Like most other regulatory issues, it could easily be that we go too far on some and not nearly far enough on others. These things are almost always tossed into existence in a sloppy, haphazard way as it is. I can tell you that's sure as hell how it is in the financial industry.

That's why a more comprehensive discussion is needed, and do you think we're capable of that right now, or within light years of it? I don't.
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Again, have to wait and see how the guy got his guns, and what guns he used.
 
Only in the USA do we regularly have events like this. Thanks gun culture.

Pray for the wounded.
 
I wish this thread was in the FZ so i could STFU 98% of these posts. lol
Fucking hacks
 
In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks Nothing we can do about it.

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time.

What an utterly tasteless thing to say. Hold your tongue.

Painting all gun owners and pro 2nd Amendment people in the same stripe as this murderer/coward?

I have very little respect for people who paint with broad brushes. Welcome to the club, asshole.

It is the America we live in

We are willing to put up with an occasional massacre just so long as we don't inconvenience our gun owners. Next guy who wants to break the record and go out in a blaze of glory will have ready access to the best weapons and ammo he can afford.

But does anyone really care? We didn't care about a massacre of 30 six year old first graders. Why should we care about 50-60 dead country music fans?
this guy was a Bernie Sanders supporter was he not?
 
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