Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Rustic]

Socialist candidates like Bernie Sanders inspire violence… They should be banned

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why does everybody think that every time there's a mass shooting there has to be some agenda? Can't anybody just be crazy anymore?

Of course this is retarded thinking.
No one could kill more than fifty and injure more than four hundred with any weapon other than a gun.

You ever hear of bombs? Are you that stupid?

No bombs in this attack, dope.
The cartoon shows physical attacks. Not bombs.

 

[Mac1958]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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The weekly gun carnage is mostly in our inner cities. These events are tragic and make a big splash on the nightly news, but statistically they are extremely rare considering the amount of people who own guns and the amount of crazy people we have in this country.

And we still don't know what type of weapon he used, how he got it, who he actually is, and how the people died and got hurt. (Did some die from the stampede after the shooting started or were they all shot?)

Until we know all that we can't begin to figure out what happened, why it happened, and what to do about it.

Agreed, that's the way it works. We do love to jump to immediate conclusions, and that does no good.

What does seem probable (probable, not set in stone) is that (a) this guy lost his shit, and (b) he had relatively easy access to at least one machine gun, from the sound of the videos.

So that will probably be a part of the conversation later.
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[Eloy]

Lots of people care. It goes toward profiling. And we both have a pretty good idea what side of the aisle he comes from. If you don’t... stay tuned.

You mean like Tim McVeigh? That side of the aisle? Yeah, probably.

McVeigh was a leftist.

McVeigh was not a socialist. He was a war veteran who was against the United States federal government. He hoped to inspire a revolt of gun-loving irregular militias. About as right-wing as they come.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Why does everybody think that every time there's a mass shooting there has to be some agenda? Can't anybody just be crazy anymore?

Of course this is retarded thinking.
No one could kill more than fifty and injure more than four hundred with any weapon other than a gun.

You ever hear of bombs? Are you that stupid?

No bombs in this attack, dope.
The cartoon shows physical attacks. Not bombs.

Bombs aren't physical attacks?

 

[Mac1958]

This will, no doubt, ultimately end up in a discussion on what can be done about guns, as it should.

Meanwhile, let's hope for the best for the families of the dead, and that no more of the wounded die, shall we?

A personal warning: Woe to any liberal or conservative who tries to politicize this. Whether for or against gun control, this is not the time or place for that crap. There are bodies still laying there lifeless on the ground. Honestly.

Now with my commentary. I am beyond appalled. This was the first thing I woke up to on the news this morning. Safe it to say I am not happy. I agree with you Mac, we need to pray no more people perish from this massacre.

Well, I think we both know the politics will be flying like Frisbees at a park, and looking at this board, it started well before the bodies were cold.

As usual.
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[Hutch Starskey]

Steven Paddock, the other guy missing, scary looking

Retard.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration

But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

Once again you ignore the mental health of the shooter. Had he been caught, those weapons would not have been used to kill anyone. That requires the hand of a cognizant (mentally unstable or otherwise) to use these weapons in that way. The weapons just don't animate themselves and start killing people.

Eh, perhaps I made a mistake logging on this morning... for I am being drawn into the politics of the matter.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

My predictions.

1) Everyone in this man's life knew he was mentally unstable.
2) He was still able to get guns too easily.

And probably the first time I will agree with you.

 

[rightwinger]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why does everybody think that every time there's a mass shooting there has to be some agenda? Can't anybody just be crazy anymore?

Of course this is retarded thinking.
No one could kill more than fifty and injure more than four hundred with any weapon other than a gun.

You ever hear of bombs? Are you that stupid?

No bombs in this attack, dope.
The cartoon shows physical attacks. Not bombs.

Bombs aren't physical attacks?

The cartoon I responded to did not feature bombs, dope.

 

[Mac1958]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time

Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
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[Marion Morrison]

It was a country music show so there's a good chance it was a BLM sympathizer.

Geez. It could be anybody with ears.

Funny, but too soon, too soon.

 

[martybegan]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time

You have yet to explain how making it near impossible for me to get a gun as a law abiding citizen stops this guy from doing what he did.

To be fair we don't know how he got his weapons for this yet, so the discussion is moot.

 

[Eloy]

Lots of people care. It goes toward profiling. And we both have a pretty good idea what side of the aisle he comes from. If you don’t... stay tuned.

You mean like Tim McVeigh? That side of the aisle? Yeah, probably.

McVeigh was a leftist.

No far, far, far right wing; beyond American conservatism by light years.

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Mudwhistle is normally a trustworthy poster.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Steven Paddock, the other guy missing, scary looking

Clearly a "white guy".

Clearly an attempt to set a narrative.

 

[waltky]

Why didn't she go to the police?...

Las Vegas shooting: 'YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE' – SHOCK WARNING 45 minutes before attack
Mon, Oct 2, 2017 | A LAS VEGAS shooting witness was reportedly warned that everyone at the Route 91 music festival was “going to die” 45 minutes before the attack near the Mandalay Bay hotel.

More than 50 people were killed and over 200 more injured after the Las Vegas shooting, according to Las Vegas police. Chilling video has emerged showing the moment gunshots ring out during the busy music festival, cutting short Jason Aldean’s appearance as the packed out audience escaped the shooter in terror. Joseph Lombardo, the sheriff of Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, confirmed the shooter, Stephen Paddock, had been killed by police, adding his companion Marilou Danley remains at large.

Las Vegas shooting witness video latest news​

One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were “all going to die” after pushing her way to the front of the venue. The witness, 21, told local news: “She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die. “They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious.” She described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man. The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like “everyday people”. She added she and her friends had just made it back to their hotel room when the gunfire started.

Concert-goers were forced to flee after the gunman opened fire​

Marilou Danley, a person of interest in the Las Vegas Police investigation, was said to be an Asian woman and approximately 4ft 11ins in height. Mr Lombardo said: “We have not located her at this time ad we are invested in talking to her for follow-up.” There is no confirmed police link to the eyewitnesses' claim and Marilou Danley. Ms Danley and her vehicle has now been located by the police. Police are also looking for two cars, a Hyundai Tuscon B40 with Nevada plate 114B40 and a Chrysler Pacific Touring with the licence plate 19D401. Both vehicles are registered to the suspect located the Las Vegas hotel. The attack is now the deadliest shooting in US history.

People run for cover at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival​

The massacre surpasses the Orlando shooting at the Pulse nightclub in June 2016 when 49 people were killed. Mr Lombardo confirmed one of the victims was an off-duty police officer who worked for the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Another one of the department’s officers is in a critical condition, the Sherriff added he expects the investigation to be long and protracted. Mr Lombardo said: "We are looking at in excess of 50 individuals dead and over 200 individuals injured ... Obviously, this is a tragic incident and one that we have never experienced in this valley. My condolences go out to the loved ones. “That number for family and friends to get an update on loved ones is 1866 535 5654.”

The shooting is now the deadliest in US history​

While discussing the suspect, he added: “We located numerous firearms within the room that he occupied. All’s we know is that they were rifles. We are executing a search warrant on the room.We have officers at his residence, and we will be executing a search warrant there also shortly. “It is going to be a long and tedious investigation. We are bringing in all the resources of the FBI to assist us in this investigation, in particular to their victim witness advocates and their CSI folks to help us process the scene and ensure that we are getting all the evidence that we can possibly obtain.”

Las Vegas shooting: 'YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE' – SHOCK WARNING 45 minutes before attack

 

[martybegan]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
.

In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks
Nothing we can do about it

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time

Can't argue. We might be beyond any event that causes us to get past our divisions for any meaningful period of time.
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The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

In the Sandy Hook massacre of 30 mostly six year old children, we professed outrage and then shrugged it off after a couple of weeks Nothing we can do about it.

Same thing will happen here. Now gun lovers will have a new record to try to beat next time.

What an utterly tasteless thing to say. Hold your tongue.

Painting all gun owners and pro 2nd Amendment people in the same stripe as this murderer/coward?

I have very little respect for people who paint with broad brushes. Welcome to the club, asshole.

 

[mdk]

I feel foolish for reading this entire shit show of a thread.