Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Skull Pilot]

IF that were allowed, I assure you the Auto Industry and hammer industry and knife industry would be next

Such a stupid argument. Cars are replete with safety features, many mandated by law. Roads have rules for safety and are patrolled by police. If guns were regulated as well there would be fewer problems.

Guns aren't regulated? Silly wabbit!

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Last time I checked I didn't have to have my fingerprints on file with the state cops in order to get my drivers license as I had to for my carry permit.

I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.

I have to show my CCW permit every time I buy any weapon in my state even when I buy ammo. The Permit is scanned and there is a record of every purchase

 

[Geaux4it]

It's not as easy as you think to modify a gun for full auto.

If it was there'd be a shit ton more of them floating around

A modern semi auto with high capacity mags is a mass killer.

I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?

People with rifles kill innocent American people.

Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?

Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

Not your call on what I need or want

-Geaux

 

[Hutch Starskey]

How could they know without a background check?

It doesn't matter if they know or not. it is ILLEGAL to sell guns to people who are not eligible to buy them which puts the responsibility of knowing who the gun is sold to on the seller.

So if you want to stay within the law on private sales you broker them through an FFL dealer

So you're in favor of making that mandatory then? There is no other way for LE to know a transaction even occurred otherwise.

I really don't car as I don't sell my firearms.
IMO anyone who sell a gun to someone they do not know and doesn't broker the deal through an FFL dealer is a fucking idiot.

The thing is private transfers are a minuscule part of the gun trade and most are gifts and inheritances.

The average piece of shit thug on the street doesn't buy his guns from a guy he doesn't know. Usually he gets a family member or friend to make a straw purchase or he gets them from a different piece of shit he already knows

That's the point. Without requiring a check, anyone can buy anything and resell to anyone without any record of a transaction. Even if I sell a gun to a guy and go through a dealer, there's no control over who he could then sell it to. Universal checks should not be a problem for those who are honest. I would bet that quite a few of those opposed make some nice cash buying and selling.

How many background checks did the Paris shooters undergo?

How much do you make annually flipping guns?

 

[MindWars]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

The Las Vegas shooter didn’t commit suicide as the mainstream media is reporting, but was killed by a FBI hostage rescue team who also found Antifa literature in his hotel room, according to a source linked to the team.

The FBI team took the suspect out after he opened fired on them, according to the source, and afterwards the team found photos taken in the Middle East of a woman linked to the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.

ISIS recently took responsibility for the mass shooting, and the AP even admitted ISIS doesn’t take responsibility unless it’s at least loosely associated with the attack:............................

FBI Source: Vegas Shooter Found with Antifa Literature, Photos Taken in Middle East


And yes many things are speculation at the moment.

 

[velvtacheeze]

If guns are needed for self protection, then from whom was Stephen Paddock protecting himself.? Was he in danger from innocent concert goers?

Guns are fun. They are used as a hobby. Others use them to put food on the table, and some like me, have used them in self defense

-Geaux

You didn't answer my question? Who was threatening Stephen Paddock? If guns are for self defense, who was he defending himself from?

I pointed out not all gun owners put self defense as the #1 reason they have them.

-Geaux

Paddock had them in order to kill as many innocent people as possible, and the NRA and GOP enabled him in doing so.

 

[MarkDuffy]

One thing I hope we all can agree on

Mandalay Bay gots some splainin to do, Lucy

How in the hell such a huge arsenal got to the top floor?

I've never had to go through a metal detector to check into any hotel in the U.S. It's not the hotel's fault, although I'm sure some slimey lawyer will try to flog up a class action suit to pick some deep pockets.

Well, the gun lobby would fight that; gun free zones kill people, doncha know.

Gun free zones make law-abiding citizens into sitting ducks, doncha know.

So the concert goers should have all been armed and shooting back at a hotel building? LOL You wingnuts are a real piece of work. .

and the hotel gunnuts should be put in jail for not stopping the terrorist this time either

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Such a stupid argument. Cars are replete with safety features, many mandated by law. Roads have rules for safety and are patrolled by police. If guns were regulated as well there would be fewer problems.

Guns aren't regulated? Silly wabbit!

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Last time I checked I didn't have to have my fingerprints on file with the state cops in order to get my drivers license as I had to for my carry permit.

I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.

I have to show my CCW permit every time I buy any weapon in my state even when I buy ammo. The Permit is scanned and there is a record of every purchase

That's great. That should be the case for everyone. It's really the only way to trace the movement of guns.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

The Las Vegas shooter didn’t commit suicide as the mainstream media is reporting, but was killed by a FBI hostage rescue team who also found Antifa literature in his hotel room, according to a source linked to the team.

The FBI team took the suspect out after he opened fired on them, according to the source, and afterwards the team found photos taken in the Middle East of a woman linked to the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.

ISIS recently took responsibility for the mass shooting, and the AP even admitted ISIS doesn’t take responsibility unless it’s at least loosely associated with the attack:............................

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FBI Source: Vegas Shooter Found with Antifa Literature, Photos Taken in Middle East


And yes many things are speculation at the moment.

Ha! . You're going to need a less laughable source than Alex Jones.

 

[bodecea]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

The Las Vegas shooter didn’t commit suicide as the mainstream media is reporting, but was killed by a FBI hostage rescue team who also found Antifa literature in his hotel room, according to a source linked to the team.

The FBI team took the suspect out after he opened fired on them, according to the source, and afterwards the team found photos taken in the Middle East of a woman linked to the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.

ISIS recently took responsibility for the mass shooting, and the AP even admitted ISIS doesn’t take responsibility unless it’s at least loosely associated with the attack:............................

View attachment 152386


FBI Source: Vegas Shooter Found with Antifa Literature, Photos Taken in Middle East


And yes many things are speculation at the moment.

More Infowars crap.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Such a stupid argument. Cars are replete with safety features, many mandated by law. Roads have rules for safety and are patrolled by police. If guns were regulated as well there would be fewer problems.

Guns aren't regulated? Silly wabbit!

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Last time I checked I didn't have to have my fingerprints on file with the state cops in order to get my drivers license as I had to for my carry permit.

I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.

Nope, but you don't need to have your fingerprints on file with the authorities either. You do for a CCW.

As it should be. Are you suggesting background checks for car registration?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Guns aren't regulated? Silly wabbit!

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Last time I checked I didn't have to have my fingerprints on file with the state cops in order to get my drivers license as I had to for my carry permit.

I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.

I have to show my CCW permit every time I buy any weapon in my state even when I buy ammo. The Permit is scanned and there is a record of every purchase

That's great. That should be the case for everyone. It's really the only way to trace the movement of guns.

It really is no one's business how many guns or what guns I own. All that needs to be proven is that I am legally eligible to buy a gun at the time of sale.

 

[OldLady]

A modern semi auto with high capacity mags is a mass killer.

I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?

People with rifles kill innocent American people.

Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?

Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

So only people who get killed in mass shootings count even though mass shootings result in 1% of all murders annually?

Skull, without automatic and semiautomatic weapons in the hands of any and every Tom Dick and Harry in this country, there would not be mass shootings. Yes there could be bombings or whatever incident Westwall keeps referring to with his gallon of gasoline. They would be far fewer and far between, which is the point. Damage control. Nothing will stop all killing but it would stop a LOT in this country. And yes, the people who get killed in mass shootings, doing nothing but going about their business, do count. You bet your ass they do.

 

[Geaux4it]

If guns are needed for self protection, then from whom was Stephen Paddock protecting himself.? Was he in danger from innocent concert goers?

Guns are fun. They are used as a hobby. Others use them to put food on the table, and some like me, have used them in self defense

-Geaux

You didn't answer my question? Who was threatening Stephen Paddock? If guns are for self defense, who was he defending himself from?

I pointed out not all gun owners put self defense as the #1 reason they have them.

-Geaux

Paddock had them in order to kill as many innocent people as possible, and the NRA and GOP enabled him in doing so.

No, leftist propaganda did.

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

Guns aren't regulated? Silly wabbit!

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Last time I checked I didn't have to have my fingerprints on file with the state cops in order to get my drivers license as I had to for my carry permit.

I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.

Nope, but you don't need to have your fingerprints on file with the authorities either. You do for a CCW.

As it should be. Are you suggesting background checks for car registration?

The thing is you don't have a right to drive a car on public property where you do have the right to own firearms

there is a difference

 

[Hutch Starskey]

How could they know without a background check?

It doesn't matter if they know or not. it is ILLEGAL to sell guns to people who are not eligible to buy them which puts the responsibility of knowing who the gun is sold to on the seller.

So if you want to stay within the law on private sales you broker them through an FFL dealer

So you're in favor of making that mandatory then? There is no other way for LE to know a transaction even occurred otherwise.

I really don't car as I don't sell my firearms.
IMO anyone who sell a gun to someone they do not know and doesn't broker the deal through an FFL dealer is a fucking idiot.

The thing is private transfers are a minuscule part of the gun trade and most are gifts and inheritances.

The average piece of shit thug on the street doesn't buy his guns from a guy he doesn't know. Usually he gets a family member or friend to make a straw purchase or he gets them from a different piece of shit he already knows

That's the point. Without requiring a check, anyone can buy anything and resell to anyone without any record of a transaction. Even if I sell a gun to a guy and go through a dealer, there's no control over who he could then sell it to. Universal checks should not be a problem for those who are honest. I would bet that quite a few of those opposed make some nice cash buying and selling.

And how is requiring a check going to stop the straw purchases or any purchase by a piece of shit criminal from another piece of shit criminal?

You're right. Loopholes shouldn't be closed in any way.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?

People with rifles kill innocent American people.

Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?

Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

So only people who get killed in mass shootings count even though mass shootings result in 1% of all murders annually?

Skull, without automatic and semiautomatic weapons in the hands of any and every Tom Dick and Harry in this country, there would not be mass shootings. Yes there could be bombings or whatever incident Westwall keeps referring to with his gallon of gasoline. They would be far fewer and far between, which is the point. Damage control. Nothing will stop all killing but it would stop a LOT in this country. And yes, the people who get killed in mass shootings, doing nothing but going about their business, do count. You bet your ass they do.

Automatic weapons are very scarce in the general public.
Semiautomatic weapons have been around since the 1860's

It's not the guns that are the problem.

 

[OldLady]

A modern semi auto with high capacity mags is a mass killer.

I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?

People with rifles kill innocent American people.

Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?

Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

Not your call on what I need or want

-Geaux

Well, it should be my call. Your stance like so many millions of others is entirely selfish.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If guns are needed for self protection, then from whom was Stephen Paddock protecting himself.? Was he in danger from innocent concert goers?

Guns are fun. They are used as a hobby. Others use them to put food on the table, and some like me, have used them in self defense

-Geaux

You didn't answer my question? Who was threatening Stephen Paddock? If guns are for self defense, who was he defending himself from?

Your brain isn't working. Paddock was a progressive scumbag. He felt he was above the law and wanted to punish all of those evil trump voters. The gun Rights we enjoy aren't for scumbags like him. They are for the reasonable people.

You have no right to be calling that monster a progressive. You know absolutely nothing about his politics or his motivation. That is just too much bullshit, from a mod no less. I'd expect it from some of the mindless bots here but you are not supposed to fling loose shit.

He doesn't have very good judgement.

 

[Skull Pilot]

It doesn't matter if they know or not. it is ILLEGAL to sell guns to people who are not eligible to buy them which puts the responsibility of knowing who the gun is sold to on the seller.

So if you want to stay within the law on private sales you broker them through an FFL dealer

So you're in favor of making that mandatory then? There is no other way for LE to know a transaction even occurred otherwise.

I really don't car as I don't sell my firearms.
IMO anyone who sell a gun to someone they do not know and doesn't broker the deal through an FFL dealer is a fucking idiot.

The thing is private transfers are a minuscule part of the gun trade and most are gifts and inheritances.

The average piece of shit thug on the street doesn't buy his guns from a guy he doesn't know. Usually he gets a family member or friend to make a straw purchase or he gets them from a different piece of shit he already knows

That's the point. Without requiring a check, anyone can buy anything and resell to anyone without any record of a transaction. Even if I sell a gun to a guy and go through a dealer, there's no control over who he could then sell it to. Universal checks should not be a problem for those who are honest. I would bet that quite a few of those opposed make some nice cash buying and selling.

And how is requiring a check going to stop the straw purchases or any purchase by a piece of shit criminal from another piece of shit criminal?

You're right. Loopholes shouldn't be closed in any way.

so you can't answer the question then.

The only way to target gun crime is to target the actual pieces of shit committing the crimes and put them the fuck away for an extremely long time.

 

[OldLady]

People with rifles kill innocent American people.

Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?

Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

So only people who get killed in mass shootings count even though mass shootings result in 1% of all murders annually?

Skull, without automatic and semiautomatic weapons in the hands of any and every Tom Dick and Harry in this country, there would not be mass shootings. Yes there could be bombings or whatever incident Westwall keeps referring to with his gallon of gasoline. They would be far fewer and far between, which is the point. Damage control. Nothing will stop all killing but it would stop a LOT in this country. And yes, the people who get killed in mass shootings, doing nothing but going about their business, do count. You bet your ass they do.

Automatic weapons are very scarce in the general public.
Semiautomatic weapons have been around since the 1860's

It's not the guns that are the problem.

LOL. Semi's that can easily be converted to automatic fire and the INSTRUCTIONS to do so on the internet for all to learn are definitely the problem. Without a gun, no one would be shot.