Lawmakers block Pentagon move to transfer $1 billion for Trump's border wall

The more important point is... WHERE THE FUCK WERE THE REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY CONTROLLED THE ENTIRE FUCKING GOVERNMENT FOR 2 FUCKING YEARS?

They deserved to get fired.

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It’s not that you are shallow and easily led that’s sad. It’s that you fancy yourself deep.

I know, for people like yourself the idea of someone being outside of the two party paradigm is more than you poor little mind can grasp.

just sit down and wait for your next talking points email, you do not want to task that tiny brain too much pondering things above you.


“I’m neither party”.

How original. I’ve never heard that in my life.

This coming from the guy that has never had an idea the party did not tell him to have...too bad you lack the intelligence to understand irony


I’m wondering if your view of the wall and funding it line up with the Democrats and the press(again).

Hmmm....I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

my view of the wall funding is that I wanted Congress to give Trump the money that the Border Patrol said they needed to repair and add fencing where needed. I trust the BP to know what they need. Further, my view is that it was dishonest for the president to sign a spending bill he knew he was going to ignore. I think it is wrong for the POTUS to spend money specifically denied him by congress. The Constitution is clear on this.

So, feel free to give me a list of the press and the Dems that agree with that view of mine, how many Dems and the press wanted congress to give Trump the funding the BP asked for?


Fish don’t notice water...and you don’t notice your master. It just seems natural to you to servilely repeat the mantras.
 
The more important point is... WHERE THE FUCK WERE THE REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY CONTROLLED THE ENTIRE FUCKING GOVERNMENT FOR 2 FUCKING YEARS?

They deserved to get fired.

.

They were doing as they were told. People like golfinggstor convince the public they have only two choices. It’s their role to play. And the democrats are a horror. So they don’t fire the republican. All he has to do is be a little less crazy than the Democrat.
 
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I know, for people like yourself the idea of someone being outside of the two party paradigm is more than you poor little mind can grasp.

just sit down and wait for your next talking points email, you do not want to task that tiny brain too much pondering things above you.


“I’m neither party”.

How original. I’ve never heard that in my life.

This coming from the guy that has never had an idea the party did not tell him to have...too bad you lack the intelligence to understand irony


I’m wondering if your view of the wall and funding it line up with the Democrats and the press(again).

Hmmm....I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

my view of the wall funding is that I wanted Congress to give Trump the money that the Border Patrol said they needed to repair and add fencing where needed. I trust the BP to know what they need. Further, my view is that it was dishonest for the president to sign a spending bill he knew he was going to ignore. I think it is wrong for the POTUS to spend money specifically denied him by congress. The Constitution is clear on this.

So, feel free to give me a list of the press and the Dems that agree with that view of mine, how many Dems and the press wanted congress to give Trump the funding the BP asked for?


Fish don’t notice water...and you don’t notice your master. It just seems natural to you to servilely repeat the mantras.

you are so damn cute...I give you my view on the wall and you know it does not match that of anybody, so you resort to this.

how embarrassing for you.
 
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“I’m neither party”.

How original. I’ve never heard that in my life.

This coming from the guy that has never had an idea the party did not tell him to have...too bad you lack the intelligence to understand irony


I’m wondering if your view of the wall and funding it line up with the Democrats and the press(again).

Hmmm....I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

my view of the wall funding is that I wanted Congress to give Trump the money that the Border Patrol said they needed to repair and add fencing where needed. I trust the BP to know what they need. Further, my view is that it was dishonest for the president to sign a spending bill he knew he was going to ignore. I think it is wrong for the POTUS to spend money specifically denied him by congress. The Constitution is clear on this.

So, feel free to give me a list of the press and the Dems that agree with that view of mine, how many Dems and the press wanted congress to give Trump the funding the BP asked for?


Fish don’t notice water...and you don’t notice your master. It just seems natural to you to servilely repeat the mantras.

you are so damn cute...I give you my view on the wall and you know it does not match that of anybody, so you resort to this.

how embarrassing for you.
Oh you are better than *everybody* lol.

No your view matches Pelosi’s. If she wins you win.
 
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This coming from the guy that has never had an idea the party did not tell him to have...too bad you lack the intelligence to understand irony


I’m wondering if your view of the wall and funding it line up with the Democrats and the press(again).

Hmmm....I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

my view of the wall funding is that I wanted Congress to give Trump the money that the Border Patrol said they needed to repair and add fencing where needed. I trust the BP to know what they need. Further, my view is that it was dishonest for the president to sign a spending bill he knew he was going to ignore. I think it is wrong for the POTUS to spend money specifically denied him by congress. The Constitution is clear on this.

So, feel free to give me a list of the press and the Dems that agree with that view of mine, how many Dems and the press wanted congress to give Trump the funding the BP asked for?


Fish don’t notice water...and you don’t notice your master. It just seems natural to you to servilely repeat the mantras.

you are so damn cute...I give you my view on the wall and you know it does not match that of anybody, so you resort to this.

how embarrassing for you.
Oh you are better than *everybody* lol.

No your view matches Pelosi’s. If she wins you win.

Yeah, I remember well Pelosi begging Trump to take money for fencing along the border.

you are not only stupid, you are as dishonest as Obama.
 
You have to laugh at these clowns. Schiff for brains believes he commands the armed forces. Apparently he doesn't understand how our government works.


Lawmakers blocked the Department of Defense's move to transfer $1 billion for the construction of a physical barrier along the US-Mexico border, the latest showdown in the battle over the border wall that President Trump has vowed to build.

On Monday, the Pentagon authorized the transfer of funds to Army engineers for projects along the border, which include building 57 miles of 18-foot-high fencing, constructing and improving roads, and installing lighting in support of Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol. The move was carried out under the president's declaration of a national emergency, the department said in a statement.

As Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan was testifying before his committee, Rep. Adam Smith, the Democrat who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, released a letter denying the Pentagon's move to reprogram $1 billion.

"The House Committee on Armed Services has completed its review of the proposed reprogramming request," Smith's letter read, according to a copy obtained by Military Times. "The committee denies this request."

In a more detailed statement, Smith called the Department of Defense's decision to reprogram $1 billion without Congressional approval a violation of trust. "DoD is attempting to circumvent Congress and the American people's opposition to using taxpayer money for the construction of an unnecessary wall."
These are traitors!
Adam Smith does not have that authority, nor does his Committee. The entire House already had it’s little resolution disagreeing with the President’s emergency declaration and failed to override Trump’s veto. This is pure and simple grandstanding. Adam Smith is a corrupt idiot who doesn’t even know what his authority is.
 
Fact!

The reprioritizing of money was not blocked by the committee. The D Chairman said he would not approve of this action but his disapproval is nothing more than show, as he, nor his committee have any power to stop it. Another fake news headline which of course is not accurate or thruthful.
 
You have to laugh at these clowns. Schiff for brains believes he commands the armed forces. Apparently he doesn't understand how our government works.


Lawmakers blocked the Department of Defense's move to transfer $1 billion for the construction of a physical barrier along the US-Mexico border, the latest showdown in the battle over the border wall that President Trump has vowed to build.

On Monday, the Pentagon authorized the transfer of funds to Army engineers for projects along the border, which include building 57 miles of 18-foot-high fencing, constructing and improving roads, and installing lighting in support of Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol. The move was carried out under the president's declaration of a national emergency, the department said in a statement.

As Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan was testifying before his committee, Rep. Adam Smith, the Democrat who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, released a letter denying the Pentagon's move to reprogram $1 billion.

"The House Committee on Armed Services has completed its review of the proposed reprogramming request," Smith's letter read, according to a copy obtained by Military Times. "The committee denies this request."

In a more detailed statement, Smith called the Department of Defense's decision to reprogram $1 billion without Congressional approval a violation of trust. "DoD is attempting to circumvent Congress and the American people's opposition to using taxpayer money for the construction of an unnecessary wall."

Seems that Congress has the power of the purse....but you never did care for the Constitution did you


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So how did Obama give $150 billion to Iran?

It was not our money, that is how.


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Congress may have the "power of the purse", but once that money is allocated it is OUT of their control. The department decides how to use that money, not Schiff or Pelosi or anybody else. As far as "Iran's money", in this country, money used in commission of a crime is forfeit. Thus it was no longer their money. It was already allocated for victims of Iran's terroristic acts.
 
Congress may have the "power of the purse", but once that money is allocated it is OUT of their control. The department decides how to use that money, not Schiff or Pelosi or anybody else. .

It cannot be used for something other than what it was allocated for. The DOT cannot take money from the USDA without congressional approval.

What Trump is doing it taking money from the DOD and giving it to the DHS, and that is against the Constitution.
 
You have to laugh at these clowns. Schiff for brains believes he commands the armed forces. Apparently he doesn't understand how our government works.


Lawmakers blocked the Department of Defense's move to transfer $1 billion for the construction of a physical barrier along the US-Mexico border, the latest showdown in the battle over the border wall that President Trump has vowed to build.

On Monday, the Pentagon authorized the transfer of funds to Army engineers for projects along the border, which include building 57 miles of 18-foot-high fencing, constructing and improving roads, and installing lighting in support of Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol. The move was carried out under the president's declaration of a national emergency, the department said in a statement.

As Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan was testifying before his committee, Rep. Adam Smith, the Democrat who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, released a letter denying the Pentagon's move to reprogram $1 billion.

"The House Committee on Armed Services has completed its review of the proposed reprogramming request," Smith's letter read, according to a copy obtained by Military Times. "The committee denies this request."

In a more detailed statement, Smith called the Department of Defense's decision to reprogram $1 billion without Congressional approval a violation of trust. "DoD is attempting to circumvent Congress and the American people's opposition to using taxpayer money for the construction of an unnecessary wall."
“Lawmakers block Pentagon move to transfer $1 billion for Trump's border wall”

Good.

Trump’s ‘wall’ of fear, bigotry, and hate is a ridiculous waste of money, completely devoid of merit.
Congress has no power to stop him, moron.
 
Congress may have the "power of the purse", but once that money is allocated it is OUT of their control. The department decides how to use that money, not Schiff or Pelosi or anybody else. .

It cannot be used for something other than what it was allocated for. The DOT cannot take money from the USDA without congressional approval.

What Trump is doing it taking money from the DOD and giving it to the DHS, and that is against the Constitution.
Unless money is allocated for a specific project or program, departments are able to use it as they see fit. The government has done this for decades.
 
Congress may have the "power of the purse", but once that money is allocated it is OUT of their control. The department decides how to use that money, not Schiff or Pelosi or anybody else. .

It cannot be used for something other than what it was allocated for. The DOT cannot take money from the USDA without congressional approval.

What Trump is doing it taking money from the DOD and giving it to the DHS, and that is against the Constitution.
Unless money is allocated for a specific project or program, departments are able to use it as they see fit. The government has done this for decades.

but they are not allowed to transfer it between departments without approval. That is what is being done, the money is being moved from the DOD to the DHS which will own and control the wall after it is built.

Shit, in the Corps we could not even transfer it from one squadron to another without approval.
 
Congress may have the "power of the purse", but once that money is allocated it is OUT of their control. The department decides how to use that money, not Schiff or Pelosi or anybody else. .

It cannot be used for something other than what it was allocated for. The DOT cannot take money from the USDA without congressional approval.

What Trump is doing it taking money from the DOD and giving it to the DHS, and that is against the Constitution.
Unless money is allocated for a specific project or program, departments are able to use it as they see fit. The government has done this for decades.

but they are not allowed to transfer it between departments without approval. That is what is being done, the money is being moved from the DOD to the DHS which will own and control the wall after it is built.

Shit, in the Corps we could not even transfer it from one squadron to another without approval.

This article from Vox states otherwise.

The Pentagon is putting $1 billion toward the wall — and House Democrats can’t stop them

"Congress is in charge of setting budget levels for the executive branch for a given year, but reprogramming allows the executive branch to move some of those funds around if the need arises. Whether the executive branch is expected to ask the approval of relevant congressional committees, or just notify them, varies from department to department — and depends on how much money is being used and what it’s being asked for.

Technically, the law doesn’t allow Congress to force the Department of Defense not to reprogram money. (At least, that’s most analysts’ reading of a 1983 Supreme Court decision striking down “legislative vetoes.”) But it’s been standard operating procedure — what Smith called a “gentleman’s agreement” — that the DOD will ask Congress’ blessing before moving large amounts of money around. In fact, the form sent to Congress on Monday is technically supposed to be used for cases in which “prior approval” of Congress is needed."
 
Congress may have the "power of the purse", but once that money is allocated it is OUT of their control. The department decides how to use that money, not Schiff or Pelosi or anybody else. .

It cannot be used for something other than what it was allocated for. The DOT cannot take money from the USDA without congressional approval.

What Trump is doing it taking money from the DOD and giving it to the DHS, and that is against the Constitution.
Unless money is allocated for a specific project or program, departments are able to use it as they see fit. The government has done this for decades.

but they are not allowed to transfer it between departments without approval. That is what is being done, the money is being moved from the DOD to the DHS which will own and control the wall after it is built.

Shit, in the Corps we could not even transfer it from one squadron to another without approval.

No it isn’t. The money is being used is from the counterdrug fund. The money is being “reprogrammed” which is entirely legal.

Congress hasn’t objected. One committee member did. And they didn’t try and stop the money. The threat is they will pass a law next year recending their Reprogramming permission if Trump does this.

And to do so...or even to register an objection to the money move this year.,,the Senate has to agree.

Didn’t you go to school?
 
No it isn’t. The money is being used is from the counterdrug fund. The money is being “reprogrammed” which is entirely legal.

No it is not, the DOD gave a list of construction projects on the chopping block to get the money. The money is going from the DOD to the DHS...which is against the Constitution.

Congress hasn’t objected. One committee member did. And they didn’t try and stop the money. The threat is they will pass a law next year recending their Reprogramming permission if Trump does this.

congress objected when they passed the spending bill without the money that Trump signed.

are you really this stupid or is it just an act to get on my good side?
 
You have to laugh at these clowns. Schiff for brains believes he commands the armed forces. Apparently he doesn't understand how our government works.


Lawmakers blocked the Department of Defense's move to transfer $1 billion for the construction of a physical barrier along the US-Mexico border, the latest showdown in the battle over the border wall that President Trump has vowed to build.

On Monday, the Pentagon authorized the transfer of funds to Army engineers for projects along the border, which include building 57 miles of 18-foot-high fencing, constructing and improving roads, and installing lighting in support of Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol. The move was carried out under the president's declaration of a national emergency, the department said in a statement.

As Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan was testifying before his committee, Rep. Adam Smith, the Democrat who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, released a letter denying the Pentagon's move to reprogram $1 billion.

"The House Committee on Armed Services has completed its review of the proposed reprogramming request," Smith's letter read, according to a copy obtained by Military Times. "The committee denies this request."

In a more detailed statement, Smith called the Department of Defense's decision to reprogram $1 billion without Congressional approval a violation of trust. "DoD is attempting to circumvent Congress and the American people's opposition to using taxpayer money for the construction of an unnecessary wall."
“Lawmakers block Pentagon move to transfer $1 billion for Trump's border wall”

Good.

Trump’s ‘wall’ of fear, bigotry, and hate is a ridiculous waste of money, completely devoid of merit.
Congress has no power to stop him, moron.


Congress hasn’t stopped him. Neither the House nor Senate has objected.

The media and the @golfingators of the world are just trying to get out in front of this and build support for the Democrats.

Wall is coming:)
 
You have to laugh at these clowns. Schiff for brains believes he commands the armed forces. Apparently he doesn't understand how our government works.


Lawmakers blocked the Department of Defense's move to transfer $1 billion for the construction of a physical barrier along the US-Mexico border, the latest showdown in the battle over the border wall that President Trump has vowed to build.

On Monday, the Pentagon authorized the transfer of funds to Army engineers for projects along the border, which include building 57 miles of 18-foot-high fencing, constructing and improving roads, and installing lighting in support of Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol. The move was carried out under the president's declaration of a national emergency, the department said in a statement.

As Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan was testifying before his committee, Rep. Adam Smith, the Democrat who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, released a letter denying the Pentagon's move to reprogram $1 billion.

"The House Committee on Armed Services has completed its review of the proposed reprogramming request," Smith's letter read, according to a copy obtained by Military Times. "The committee denies this request."

In a more detailed statement, Smith called the Department of Defense's decision to reprogram $1 billion without Congressional approval a violation of trust. "DoD is attempting to circumvent Congress and the American people's opposition to using taxpayer money for the construction of an unnecessary wall."
“Lawmakers block Pentagon move to transfer $1 billion for Trump's border wall”

Good.

Trump’s ‘wall’ of fear, bigotry, and hate is a ridiculous waste of money, completely devoid of merit.
Congress has no power to stop him, moron.


Congress hasn’t stopped him. Neither the House nor Senate has objected.

The media and the @golfingators of the world are just trying to get out in front of this and build support for the Democrats.

Wall is coming:)

actually , the fence is coming. Do try and keep up.
 
No it isn’t. The money is being used is from the counterdrug fund. The money is being “reprogrammed” which is entirely legal.

No it is not, the DOD gave a list of construction projects on the chopping block to get the money. The money is going from the DOD to the DHS...which is against the Constitution.

Congress hasn’t objected. One committee member did. And they didn’t try and stop the money. The threat is they will pass a law next year recending their Reprogramming permission if Trump does this.

congress objected when they passed the spending bill without the money that Trump signed.

are you really this stupid or is it just an act to get on my good side?


No it isn’t. Congress authorized reprogramming of money used for counter drug action.
 

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