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Gee, I married to have a biological family and raise them.[the discussion is immaterial to this thread since children have no bearing on civil marriage.
The rest you were in your own world tripping, your reading skills are horrendous. But as for this, so what is the purpose of government marriage? If government marriage has nothing to do with children, what is the purpose? Is it to validate you and who you sleep with?
This may be the strongest statement I've ever read against gay marriage as being pointless to society.
It's not children. If it were, they'd be required before you get one, right? The "purpose" of civil marriage was primarily about property rights...but what it was isn't what it is. Now it's about a lot more and means something different to each person. Gays marry for all the same reasons straight people do. (like you for example, civilly married guy)
So that's a lie.
We've already been over the state's interest in promoting child-bearing couples. Since you are incapable of understanding the argument it doesnt bear repeating.
Two parents of the opposite sex. Your article is unresponsive to the issue.Here's your fail argument.....Not everyone is like you.So scientists looking at studies is just their opinion on the studies. Yeah, okay...however, their opinion certainly holds more weight than yours does it not? Has your opinion been published in a peer reviewed journal like the one I provided? No.
You didn't present any study, you presented an article written which only stated the conclusion of the person who read the study.
Gender and gender roles in parenting, in study after study, have been shown to have no bearing on children's outcomes
The number of which you have presented remains at zero.
First of all, you know nothing about what studies even are. No academic would make any of the sweeping statements you did were proven by studies. Studies draw specific conclusions in specified situations with specific criteria, they are not sweeping proof of anything. I doubt you have any college degree with your preposterous statements about what any study on any subject means, there is no chance you have a graduate degree.
Second, the logical fallacy you are committing is faulty generalization. Well, your kids are fine, so there is no difference. The biggest irony in that is it doesn't refute anything I said. And as I keep saying, I am in the same boat as your kids, single sex parent household. Mine was one, yours is two, but both are without a male parent. You don't grasp that. I never said anything about your kids, I have no reason to believe that they aren't fine or won't turn out fine. Hello, I did. I keep saying that.
That doesn't make it ideal in general. It's not. My sister double majored in biomedical research and math. She has a masters in math and a PhD in math where she specialized in theoretical statistics. She actually writes and does peer reviews endless statistical studies and is an expert in running studies on keeping lead away from children which is used by HUD, the EPA and congress to write legislation for things like how to renovate a house with lead based paint. She also had a devoted mother who with a deadbeat father still gave us ever opportunity to succeed in life. How would your unnamed studies have rated her to have turned out?
BTW, I'm one year and one month older than her, everyone has seen how she turned to me as the father figure. I point out to show how little older than her I was and how unequipped I was to provide that until we were well into our adulthood. She has had endless boyfriends, but never got married and even she admits she torpedoed the best relationships herself because she likes to have sex and spend time with men, but she can't relate to them with a father who wasn't there and an older brother who wasn't old enough to be a sufficient substitute. Yet I was the only candidate because other men even being older were no where intelligent enough to handle her. Only I was. How is a study going to rate that exactly?
My youngest brother on the other hand was 5 years younger than me, and while I wasn't old enough to be a true father to him, the difference was enough I was a far better substitute for him than I was my sister. He learned from me positives and negatives of being a man, both of which are also provided by real fathers. He went to the Naval Academy, got a masters in statistics from Georgia Tech and has been happily married for 23 years. They have a great relationship.
As for me, I screwed around until into my twenties getting an A in my hardest class and a C in my easiest. I finally got serous, then as I had my own kids I realized I was pretending to be what a husband and father are becasue I had no example. I was a father before I had one, before I was even grown. I finally started to decide I had to figure out who I was and be that husband and father and stop doing things because of my perception of what my father did before he left or what I thought other men did. That began the process for me to peace and security I had never known in my life.
Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing.
Actually, sweetie, it's a question, not an argument: I realize your attention span doesn't last past a few sentences, so I jumped ahead and gave it to you.
"Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing."
So you want to know how scientific studies apply to your personal anecdote?
But I'll take a shot. What it sound like is that you needed the structurer not the nurturer.
"Generally speaking, there is this dynamic that plays out among parents: one becomes the nurturer and the other becomes the structurer," she explained. "What I've found is that it doesn't matter which parent takes on which role; so long as the parents serve in these capacities, kids will be happy."
Do Kids Care If Their Parents Adhere to Traditional Gender Roles - Atlantic Mobile
In a single parent household, you only had half the ideal...which is two parents.
Argument #2.Gee, I married to have a biological family and raise them.[the discussion is immaterial to this thread since children have no bearing on civil marriage.
The rest you were in your own world tripping, your reading skills are horrendous. But as for this, so what is the purpose of government marriage? If government marriage has nothing to do with children, what is the purpose? Is it to validate you and who you sleep with?
This may be the strongest statement I've ever read against gay marriage as being pointless to society.
It's not children. If it were, they'd be required before you get one, right? The "purpose" of civil marriage was primarily about property rights...but what it was isn't what it is. Now it's about a lot more and means something different to each person. Gays marry for all the same reasons straight people do. (like you for example, civilly married guy)
So that's a lie.
We've already been over the state's interest in promoting child-bearing couples. Since you are incapable of understanding the argument it doesnt bear repeating.
Your personal reason does not apply to all. My brother and his wife did not get married to have children and knew it when they married.
How come your "but, but the children" argument keeps losing? (And was laughed at by the SCOTUS)
[the discussion is immaterial to this thread since children have no bearing on civil marriage.
If government marriage has nothing to do with children, what is the purpose? y.
You should ask the State that- since marriage laws are essentially unrelated to having children.
But I like this quote from the Supreme Court:
"We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights -- older than our political parties, older than our school system. Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions."
I agree on that, I find it highly unlikely that heterosexual parents would influence a kid to be gay unless the kid really is on the line between straight and gay anyway.
What is a downside though for gay adoption is that people evolved with a mother and father who have clearly different personalities and roles in child raising. It's ideal a child have both a male and female parent to gain both experiences. The same experience with two parents of the same sex does not make up for one relationship with each of two sexes.
I hear what you're saying. But there have been numerous studies on the topic and the kids are fine. I suspect any possible 'disadvantage' associated with same sex parents is more than mitigated by the fact that all children in a same sex union are intentional. Which means the parents want them and have a much better opportunity to prepare for them...both emotionally and financially.
Exactly...there have been numerous studies on the topic and the children of gays and lesbians are at no disadvantage to those of straights. There are no differences in outcomes.
What is ideal is for children to have two parents...their gender is immaterial. (except when it comes to lactation)
Whether or not children raised by same gender couples end up as exactly as well oriented as children raised by opposite couples is really a stupid argument.
Why?
Because children are raised in all sorts of environments, and as Kaz points out, they do- or they don't turn out okay.
Kaz says he missed having a father. Other children miss having any parent at all. And then some children are just raised by horrible parents.
We don't tell heterosexual parents "prove to us you will be a good parent"- instead as long as they are not physically harming the children they can raise them pretty much how they want- look at Stevie the racist bragging how his kids were all raised to hate blacks and Jews.
The point is that none of this is relevant to marriage. We do not require people to get married before they have children- or married after they have children. We don't prevent ;married parents from divorcing.
We don't require that parents be 'ideal parents' - we don't really even have any expectations that parents will be 'ideal parents'- but we can hope that parents will step up and try to be ideal parents to the best of their abilities.
And having observed friends of mine who happen to be parents who happen to be gay- thats what I see. Just like I see that with our other friends who happen to be parents.
How it applies to gay marriage is adoption. All qualified heterosexual parents should be able to do public adoptions before singles or gays. I don't give a rats ass about the straight parents, it's in the interest of the only people who matter. The children.
Liberals never stop making someone equal until they have more rights than anyone else does. You know it's going to continue there.
What a great message to the kids abandoned by their heterosexual parents and then adopted by homosexual couples
"no one else wanted you, so we will let let these people that we don't think are as good, adopt you"
Leave the handicapped and the non-white children abandoned by heterosexual parents to be raised by homosexuals.
How very white of you. Meanwhile the need for adoptive parents for the children abandoned by their heterosexual parents continues:
Facts and Statistics
In the U.S. 397,122 children are living without permanent families in the foster care system. 101,666 of these children are eligible for adoption, but nearly 32% of these children will wait over three years in foster care before being adopted.
In 2012, 23,396 youth aged out of the U.S. foster care system without the emotional and financial support necessary to succeed. Nearly 40% had been homeless or couch surfed, nearly 60% of young men had been convicted of a crime, and only 48% were employed. 75% of women and 33% of men receive government benefits to meet basic needs. 50% of all youth who aged out were involved in substance use and 17% of the females were pregnant.
Should blacks be allowed to vote? Let the states decide.
Yeah, we tried that - letting the states decide on issues of equal protection didn't work out so well.
False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
Where there is no gay marriage, a straight woman can marry a lesbian? You're going to have to prove that.
There is only marriage. And in a few states, that doesn't include same gender couples. In the rest a straight woman could marry a lesbian just fine.
Thanks for providing that obvious and useless information everyone knows and has nothing to do with the point I made, it really advances the discussion
To be fair- you haven't made a point so far- all you have made are spurious claims.
I see, so you're a long time poster, first time reader. Actually, I've repeatedly made the point there are better solutions to everything that government solves with government marriage than government marriage.
You have repeatedly trolled same gender marriage threads, pretending to argue against legal marriage but always arguing against legal same gender marriage.
Like I said- you haven't made a point so far- all you have made are spurious claims.
Except it is not based on animus. Another false claim of the gay lobby.Should blacks be allowed to vote? Let the states decide.
Yeah, we tried that - letting the states decide on issues of equal protection didn't work out so well.
False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
Discrimination based on animus is the same whether race or gender...and the courts are agreeing.
Should blacks be allowed to vote? Let the states decide.
Yeah, we tried that - letting the states decide on issues of equal protection didn't work out so well.
False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
False
He's devoid of a lot more than that.Should blacks be allowed to vote? Let the states decide.
Yeah, we tried that - letting the states decide on issues of equal protection didn't work out so well.
False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
False
It is? You're devoid of examples...
Here's your fail argument.....Not everyone is like you.
You didn't present any study, you presented an article written which only stated the conclusion of the person who read the study.
Gender and gender roles in parenting, in study after study, have been shown to have no bearing on children's outcomes
The number of which you have presented remains at zero.
First of all, you know nothing about what studies even are. No academic would make any of the sweeping statements you did were proven by studies. Studies draw specific conclusions in specified situations with specific criteria, they are not sweeping proof of anything. I doubt you have any college degree with your preposterous statements about what any study on any subject means, there is no chance you have a graduate degree.
Second, the logical fallacy you are committing is faulty generalization. Well, your kids are fine, so there is no difference. The biggest irony in that is it doesn't refute anything I said. And as I keep saying, I am in the same boat as your kids, single sex parent household. Mine was one, yours is two, but both are without a male parent. You don't grasp that. I never said anything about your kids, I have no reason to believe that they aren't fine or won't turn out fine. Hello, I did. I keep saying that.
That doesn't make it ideal in general. It's not. My sister double majored in biomedical research and math. She has a masters in math and a PhD in math where she specialized in theoretical statistics. She actually writes and does peer reviews endless statistical studies and is an expert in running studies on keeping lead away from children which is used by HUD, the EPA and congress to write legislation for things like how to renovate a house with lead based paint. She also had a devoted mother who with a deadbeat father still gave us ever opportunity to succeed in life. How would your unnamed studies have rated her to have turned out?
BTW, I'm one year and one month older than her, everyone has seen how she turned to me as the father figure. I point out to show how little older than her I was and how unequipped I was to provide that until we were well into our adulthood. She has had endless boyfriends, but never got married and even she admits she torpedoed the best relationships herself because she likes to have sex and spend time with men, but she can't relate to them with a father who wasn't there and an older brother who wasn't old enough to be a sufficient substitute. Yet I was the only candidate because other men even being older were no where intelligent enough to handle her. Only I was. How is a study going to rate that exactly?
My youngest brother on the other hand was 5 years younger than me, and while I wasn't old enough to be a true father to him, the difference was enough I was a far better substitute for him than I was my sister. He learned from me positives and negatives of being a man, both of which are also provided by real fathers. He went to the Naval Academy, got a masters in statistics from Georgia Tech and has been happily married for 23 years. They have a great relationship.
As for me, I screwed around until into my twenties getting an A in my hardest class and a C in my easiest. I finally got serous, then as I had my own kids I realized I was pretending to be what a husband and father are becasue I had no example. I was a father before I had one, before I was even grown. I finally started to decide I had to figure out who I was and be that husband and father and stop doing things because of my perception of what my father did before he left or what I thought other men did. That began the process for me to peace and security I had never known in my life.
Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing.
Actually, sweetie, it's a question, not an argument: I realize your attention span doesn't last past a few sentences, so I jumped ahead and gave it to you.
"Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing."
So you want to know how scientific studies apply to your personal anecdote?
But I'll take a shot. What it sound like is that you needed the structurer not the nurturer.
"Generally speaking, there is this dynamic that plays out among parents: one becomes the nurturer and the other becomes the structurer," she explained. "What I've found is that it doesn't matter which parent takes on which role; so long as the parents serve in these capacities, kids will be happy."
Do Kids Care If Their Parents Adhere to Traditional Gender Roles - Atlantic Mobile
In a single parent household, you only had half the ideal...which is two parents.
Allegedly she was in the military. How would you like that makng decisions on life and death for you?Here's your fail argument.....Not everyone is like you.
You didn't present any study, you presented an article written which only stated the conclusion of the person who read the study.
Gender and gender roles in parenting, in study after study, have been shown to have no bearing on children's outcomes
The number of which you have presented remains at zero.
First of all, you know nothing about what studies even are. No academic would make any of the sweeping statements you did were proven by studies. Studies draw specific conclusions in specified situations with specific criteria, they are not sweeping proof of anything. I doubt you have any college degree with your preposterous statements about what any study on any subject means, there is no chance you have a graduate degree.
Second, the logical fallacy you are committing is faulty generalization. Well, your kids are fine, so there is no difference. The biggest irony in that is it doesn't refute anything I said. And as I keep saying, I am in the same boat as your kids, single sex parent household. Mine was one, yours is two, but both are without a male parent. You don't grasp that. I never said anything about your kids, I have no reason to believe that they aren't fine or won't turn out fine. Hello, I did. I keep saying that.
That doesn't make it ideal in general. It's not. My sister double majored in biomedical research and math. She has a masters in math and a PhD in math where she specialized in theoretical statistics. She actually writes and does peer reviews endless statistical studies and is an expert in running studies on keeping lead away from children which is used by HUD, the EPA and congress to write legislation for things like how to renovate a house with lead based paint. She also had a devoted mother who with a deadbeat father still gave us ever opportunity to succeed in life. How would your unnamed studies have rated her to have turned out?
BTW, I'm one year and one month older than her, everyone has seen how she turned to me as the father figure. I point out to show how little older than her I was and how unequipped I was to provide that until we were well into our adulthood. She has had endless boyfriends, but never got married and even she admits she torpedoed the best relationships herself because she likes to have sex and spend time with men, but she can't relate to them with a father who wasn't there and an older brother who wasn't old enough to be a sufficient substitute. Yet I was the only candidate because other men even being older were no where intelligent enough to handle her. Only I was. How is a study going to rate that exactly?
My youngest brother on the other hand was 5 years younger than me, and while I wasn't old enough to be a true father to him, the difference was enough I was a far better substitute for him than I was my sister. He learned from me positives and negatives of being a man, both of which are also provided by real fathers. He went to the Naval Academy, got a masters in statistics from Georgia Tech and has been happily married for 23 years. They have a great relationship.
As for me, I screwed around until into my twenties getting an A in my hardest class and a C in my easiest. I finally got serous, then as I had my own kids I realized I was pretending to be what a husband and father are becasue I had no example. I was a father before I had one, before I was even grown. I finally started to decide I had to figure out who I was and be that husband and father and stop doing things because of my perception of what my father did before he left or what I thought other men did. That began the process for me to peace and security I had never known in my life.
Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing.
Actually, sweetie, it's a question, not an argument: I realize your attention span doesn't last past a few sentences, so I jumped ahead and gave it to you.
"Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing."
So you want to know how scientific studies apply to your personal anecdote?
But I'll take a shot. What it sound like is that you needed the structurer not the nurturer.
"Generally speaking, there is this dynamic that plays out among parents: one becomes the nurturer and the other becomes the structurer," she explained. "What I've found is that it doesn't matter which parent takes on which role; so long as the parents serve in these capacities, kids will be happy."
Do Kids Care If Their Parents Adhere to Traditional Gender Roles - Atlantic Mobile
In a single parent household, you only had half the ideal...which is two parents.
Your reading skills are atrocious. The sad thing is they let people graduate from high school with so little reading comprehension.
There is only marriage. And in a few states, that doesn't include same gender couples. In the rest a straight woman could marry a lesbian just fine.
Thanks for providing that obvious and useless information everyone knows and has nothing to do with the point I made, it really advances the discussion
To be fair- you haven't made a point so far- all you have made are spurious claims.
I see, so you're a long time poster, first time reader. Actually, I've repeatedly made the point there are better solutions to everything that government solves with government marriage than government marriage.
You have repeatedly trolled same gender marriage threads, pretending to argue against legal marriage but always arguing against legal same gender marriage.
Like I said- you haven't made a point so far- all you have made are spurious claims.
The term troll doesn't mean to disagree with you. Syriusly, it doesn't....
Except it is not based on animus. Another false claim of the gay lobby.Should blacks be allowed to vote? Let the states decide.
Yeah, we tried that - letting the states decide on issues of equal protection didn't work out so well.
False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
Discrimination based on animus is the same whether race or gender...and the courts are agreeing.
Argument 2.Except it is not based on animus. Another false claim of the gay lobby.False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
Discrimination based on animus is the same whether race or gender...and the courts are agreeing.
Of course it is. That's why the courts are continually finding in our favor. There is no rational basis for these anti gay laws.
He's devoid of a lot more than that.False analogy
Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
False
It is? You're devoid of examples...
The Left and the gay lobby have 2, and only two, arguments. Both of them are false. That's why I highlight when somene posts one or the other or both of them,.
Here's your fail argument.....Not everyone is like you.
You didn't present any study, you presented an article written which only stated the conclusion of the person who read the study.
Gender and gender roles in parenting, in study after study, have been shown to have no bearing on children's outcomes
The number of which you have presented remains at zero.
First of all, you know nothing about what studies even are. No academic would make any of the sweeping statements you did were proven by studies. Studies draw specific conclusions in specified situations with specific criteria, they are not sweeping proof of anything. I doubt you have any college degree with your preposterous statements about what any study on any subject means, there is no chance you have a graduate degree.
Second, the logical fallacy you are committing is faulty generalization. Well, your kids are fine, so there is no difference. The biggest irony in that is it doesn't refute anything I said. And as I keep saying, I am in the same boat as your kids, single sex parent household. Mine was one, yours is two, but both are without a male parent. You don't grasp that. I never said anything about your kids, I have no reason to believe that they aren't fine or won't turn out fine. Hello, I did. I keep saying that.
That doesn't make it ideal in general. It's not. My sister double majored in biomedical research and math. She has a masters in math and a PhD in math where she specialized in theoretical statistics. She actually writes and does peer reviews endless statistical studies and is an expert in running studies on keeping lead away from children which is used by HUD, the EPA and congress to write legislation for things like how to renovate a house with lead based paint. She also had a devoted mother who with a deadbeat father still gave us ever opportunity to succeed in life. How would your unnamed studies have rated her to have turned out?
BTW, I'm one year and one month older than her, everyone has seen how she turned to me as the father figure. I point out to show how little older than her I was and how unequipped I was to provide that until we were well into our adulthood. She has had endless boyfriends, but never got married and even she admits she torpedoed the best relationships herself because she likes to have sex and spend time with men, but she can't relate to them with a father who wasn't there and an older brother who wasn't old enough to be a sufficient substitute. Yet I was the only candidate because other men even being older were no where intelligent enough to handle her. Only I was. How is a study going to rate that exactly?
My youngest brother on the other hand was 5 years younger than me, and while I wasn't old enough to be a true father to him, the difference was enough I was a far better substitute for him than I was my sister. He learned from me positives and negatives of being a man, both of which are also provided by real fathers. He went to the Naval Academy, got a masters in statistics from Georgia Tech and has been happily married for 23 years. They have a great relationship.
As for me, I screwed around until into my twenties getting an A in my hardest class and a C in my easiest. I finally got serous, then as I had my own kids I realized I was pretending to be what a husband and father are becasue I had no example. I was a father before I had one, before I was even grown. I finally started to decide I had to figure out who I was and be that husband and father and stop doing things because of my perception of what my father did before he left or what I thought other men did. That began the process for me to peace and security I had never known in my life.
Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing.
Actually, sweetie, it's a question, not an argument: I realize your attention span doesn't last past a few sentences, so I jumped ahead and gave it to you.
"Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing."
So you want to know how scientific studies apply to your personal anecdote?
But I'll take a shot. What it sound like is that you needed the structurer not the nurturer.
"Generally speaking, there is this dynamic that plays out among parents: one becomes the nurturer and the other becomes the structurer," she explained. "What I've found is that it doesn't matter which parent takes on which role; so long as the parents serve in these capacities, kids will be happy."
Do Kids Care If Their Parents Adhere to Traditional Gender Roles - Atlantic Mobile
In a single parent household, you only had half the ideal...which is two parents.
Your reading skills are atrocious. The sad thing is they let people graduate from high school with so little reading comprehension.
He's devoid of a lot more than that.Bullshit reply
Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
False
It is? You're devoid of examples...
The Left and the gay lobby have 2, and only two, arguments. Both of them are false. That's why I highlight when somene posts one or the other or both of them,.
We at least have multiple arguments.
Yours is reduced to 'gay bad'
Allegedly she was in the military. How would you like that makng decisions on life and death for you?Here's your fail argument.....Not everyone is like you.You didn't present any study, you presented an article written which only stated the conclusion of the person who read the study.
The number of which you have presented remains at zero.
First of all, you know nothing about what studies even are. No academic would make any of the sweeping statements you did were proven by studies. Studies draw specific conclusions in specified situations with specific criteria, they are not sweeping proof of anything. I doubt you have any college degree with your preposterous statements about what any study on any subject means, there is no chance you have a graduate degree.
Second, the logical fallacy you are committing is faulty generalization. Well, your kids are fine, so there is no difference. The biggest irony in that is it doesn't refute anything I said. And as I keep saying, I am in the same boat as your kids, single sex parent household. Mine was one, yours is two, but both are without a male parent. You don't grasp that. I never said anything about your kids, I have no reason to believe that they aren't fine or won't turn out fine. Hello, I did. I keep saying that.
That doesn't make it ideal in general. It's not. My sister double majored in biomedical research and math. She has a masters in math and a PhD in math where she specialized in theoretical statistics. She actually writes and does peer reviews endless statistical studies and is an expert in running studies on keeping lead away from children which is used by HUD, the EPA and congress to write legislation for things like how to renovate a house with lead based paint. She also had a devoted mother who with a deadbeat father still gave us ever opportunity to succeed in life. How would your unnamed studies have rated her to have turned out?
BTW, I'm one year and one month older than her, everyone has seen how she turned to me as the father figure. I point out to show how little older than her I was and how unequipped I was to provide that until we were well into our adulthood. She has had endless boyfriends, but never got married and even she admits she torpedoed the best relationships herself because she likes to have sex and spend time with men, but she can't relate to them with a father who wasn't there and an older brother who wasn't old enough to be a sufficient substitute. Yet I was the only candidate because other men even being older were no where intelligent enough to handle her. Only I was. How is a study going to rate that exactly?
My youngest brother on the other hand was 5 years younger than me, and while I wasn't old enough to be a true father to him, the difference was enough I was a far better substitute for him than I was my sister. He learned from me positives and negatives of being a man, both of which are also provided by real fathers. He went to the Naval Academy, got a masters in statistics from Georgia Tech and has been happily married for 23 years. They have a great relationship.
As for me, I screwed around until into my twenties getting an A in my hardest class and a C in my easiest. I finally got serous, then as I had my own kids I realized I was pretending to be what a husband and father are becasue I had no example. I was a father before I had one, before I was even grown. I finally started to decide I had to figure out who I was and be that husband and father and stop doing things because of my perception of what my father did before he left or what I thought other men did. That began the process for me to peace and security I had never known in my life.
Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing.
Actually, sweetie, it's a question, not an argument: I realize your attention span doesn't last past a few sentences, so I jumped ahead and gave it to you.
"Now explain to me how an academic study measures that to claim the sex of parents doesn't matter in child rearing."
So you want to know how scientific studies apply to your personal anecdote?
But I'll take a shot. What it sound like is that you needed the structurer not the nurturer.
"Generally speaking, there is this dynamic that plays out among parents: one becomes the nurturer and the other becomes the structurer," she explained. "What I've found is that it doesn't matter which parent takes on which role; so long as the parents serve in these capacities, kids will be happy."
Do Kids Care If Their Parents Adhere to Traditional Gender Roles - Atlantic Mobile
In a single parent household, you only had half the ideal...which is two parents.
Your reading skills are atrocious. The sad thing is they let people graduate from high school with so little reading comprehension.
Argument 2. And the Circuit Court in OH apparently disagrees as gay marriage is still not recognized in TN.He's devoid of a lot more than that.Black and Gay are different issues. There were laws saying what blacks could and could not do. There is no such law for gays, gays can do exactly the same things straights can. It's a false analogy. You can like it or not, but I'm not explaining one issue in relation to a completely different issue.
False
It is? You're devoid of examples...
The Left and the gay lobby have 2, and only two, arguments. Both of them are false. That's why I highlight when somene posts one or the other or both of them,.
We at least have multiple arguments.
Yours is reduced to 'gay bad'
Doesn't matter. Don't let the radical right get under your skin. Theirs is a losing position on this one. Any state attempting to deny marriage rights to gays will be slapped by the courts.
