Let's debunk a right wing media (and Trump admin) myth, shall we.

[theHawk]

So what should Americans do, OP?

Clearly he thinks we should all kiss China’s ass like he does. He thinks China is a “role model” for the world.

 

[whitehall]

The best evidence so far is that the virus originated in China. Why is the left so desperate to defend China these days? Is it proof that TDS is real?

 

[justoffal]

That's about SARS-COVID-2. Do you have one about COVID-19?

It's become painfully obvious "you can't fix stupid" applies to your comment.

It's becoming painfully obvious that you don't understand how any of this works.

The research that produced COVID-19 was conducted on SARS-cov-2, which occurs in nature. The COVID-19 mutation was caused by researchers mutating the naturally-occurring virus to purposely get it to mutate, so they can study the mutations.

So, tell me. Can you fix your own stupid?

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I think this one is an old OBOT...... they take them in and program them with a dozen or so one sentence propaganda lines that don't require any kind of critical thinking to repeat. Some of them are so stupid they forget how to have a heart beat.

JO

 

[theHawk]

Manipulated by scientists in a lab, certainly a possibility and actually very probable

Nope.

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

Scientists took conspiracy theories seriously and analyzed the coronavirus to reveal its natural origins.

www.sciencenews.org

That article doesn’t refute what I said. They claim it has markers that aren’t that deadly, yet it is deadly and spreads very easily.

 

[justoffal]

The best evidence so far is that the virus originated in China. Why is the left so desperate to defend China these days? Is it proof that TDS is real?

China spends billions of dollars every year bribing the law making bodies of various nations. The US Federal government is probably at least 50% compromised by illicit chinese funding. These guys are getting a paycheck from China....they in turn make it known to their constituency that China = the good guys. The constituency....like our dear poster here....just robotically repeat the propaganda given to them by their group leaders and what not.....so they come to places like this, hardly alive mentally...and drone out pre-scripted lines obediently with no real thought process behind it. If they just stopped and though for even a moment they would see what's going on but they prefer not to know frankly.

JO

 

[justoffal]

There's a theory being promoted, not just by RWM but by members of the admin, that COVID is a man-made virus that "escaped from the lab." The implication being from at least some quarters that China intentionally unleashed the virus on the world (and themselves) for nefarious purposes. Oddly, at least one member of the admin has spoken out of both sides of his mouth as to COVID's origin.

Let's flush this out.

First, what does science say about whether it's man-made or not?

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

Scientists took conspiracy theories seriously and analyzed the coronavirus to reveal its natural origins.

www.sciencenews.org

"The coronavirus pandemic circling the globe is caused by a natural virus, not one made in a lab, a new study says.

The virus’s genetic makeup reveals that SARS-CoV-2 isn’t a mishmash of known viruses, as might be expected if it were human-made. And it has unusual features that have only recently been identified in scaly anteaters called pangolins, evidence that the virus came from nature, Kristian Andersen and his colleagues report March 17 in Nature Medicine."

Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab

In an exclusive interview, the face of America’s COVID-19 response cautions against the rush for states to reopen, and offers his tips for handling the pandemic's information deluge.

www.nationalgeographic.com

So, not man-made.
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At this point is gets a bit weird. Because what the "escaped from the lab" theory actually seems to imply is the Chinese were experimenting on viruses and COVID got out. The language is important here since the word "escaped" suggests the Chinese didn't let the virus spread intentionally. Rather, "escaped" suggests it was a horrible mistake. A scenario whereby a scientist working in the lab was infected and unwittingly infected people outside. There is no evidence of this. Also, I wanted to add that if you believe China did this intentionally you must admit is was monumentally stupid of them to release it so close to a lab. Why not 1K miles away from a lab to throw the international community off their tracks?

The more probable scenario is..............
The coronavirus likely came from China’s wet markets. They’re reopening anyway.

The coronavirus likely came from China’s wet markets. They’re reopening anyway.

Should wet markets be banned? It’s more complicated than it seems.

www.vox.com

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Under either scenario a case can be made for China being negligent. Wet animal markets have long been recognized as a potential incubator for these types of viruses. If the virus "escaped" from the lab near Wuhan then they again bear responsibility for being negligent. Additionally, there is no dispute that under any circumstance the Chinese government is culpable for not informing the world about what was happening in China when the virus began to spread. That is unequivocal.
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However, the admin and its media lackeys needs to be more precise about what China is being accused of relative to why the virus began to spread. Chinese authorities are undoubtedly guilty of carelessness and of covering up COVID's early spread. For political purposes, China's culpability is being exploited by the admin in seeking a scapegoat for its own inadequate, inconsistent, and generally bungled response. But for the sake of accuracy, the evidence so far shows the COVID pandemic came about as the result of a tragic sequence of events, not on purpose.

Completely man-made, no.

Manipulated by scientists in a lab, certainly a possibility and actually very probable considering how evil Communist China is.

He/she actually doesn't know the difference.

JO

 

[berg80]

Clearly he thinks we should all kiss China’s ass like he does.

How does posting the facts make me a Chinese ass kisser?

 

[sartre play]

As have no advanced degree in medicine or any other field that could lend authority to any claim, will just have to wait until the political screaming slows down & those who do have expertise start coming to some conclusion.

 

[berg80]

China spends billions of dollars every year bribing the law making bodies of various nations. The US Federal government is probably at least 50% compromised by illicit chinese funding.

Your proof?

 

[berg80]

As have no advanced degree in medicine or any other field that could lend authority to any claim, will just have to wait until the political screaming slows down & those who do have expertise start coming to some conclusion.

Luckily for you, they have.

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

Scientists took conspiracy theories seriously and analyzed the coronavirus to reveal its natural origins.

www.sciencenews.org

 

[justoffal]

China spends billions of dollars every year bribing the law making bodies of various nations. The US Federal government is probably at least 50% compromised by illicit chinese funding.

Your proof?

OH GOOD GOD MAN ....
DO YOUR OWN GOOGLING.....THIS SUBJECT IS TWENTY YEARS OLD.

JO

 

[berg80]

China spends billions of dollars every year bribing the law making bodies of various nations. The US Federal government is probably at least 50% compromised by illicit chinese funding.

Your proof?

OH GOOD GOD MAN ....
DO YOUR OWN GOOGLING.....THIS SUBJECT IS TWENTY YEARS OLD.

JO

As I thought, you've got nothing to substantiate this...........The US Federal government is probably at least 50% compromised by illicit chinese funding.

 

[Rigby5]

There's a theory being promoted, not just by RWM but by members of the admin, that COVID is a man-made virus that "escaped from the lab." The implication being from at least some quarters that China intentionally unleashed the virus on the world (and themselves) for nefarious purposes. Oddly, at least one member of the admin has spoken out of both sides of his mouth as to COVID's origin.

Let's flush this out.

First, what does science say about whether it's man-made or not?

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

Scientists took conspiracy theories seriously and analyzed the coronavirus to reveal its natural origins.

www.sciencenews.org

"The coronavirus pandemic circling the globe is caused by a natural virus, not one made in a lab, a new study says.

The virus’s genetic makeup reveals that SARS-CoV-2 isn’t a mishmash of known viruses, as might be expected if it were human-made. And it has unusual features that have only recently been identified in scaly anteaters called pangolins, evidence that the virus came from nature, Kristian Andersen and his colleagues report March 17 in Nature Medicine."

Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab

In an exclusive interview, the face of America’s COVID-19 response cautions against the rush for states to reopen, and offers his tips for handling the pandemic's information deluge.

www.nationalgeographic.com

So, not man-made.
..........................................................................................................................
At this point is gets a bit weird. Because what the "escaped from the lab" theory actually seems to imply is the Chinese were experimenting on viruses and COVID got out. The language is important here since the word "escaped" suggests the Chinese didn't let the virus spread intentionally. Rather, "escaped" suggests it was a horrible mistake. A scenario whereby a scientist working in the lab was infected and unwittingly infected people outside. There is no evidence of this. Also, I wanted to add that if you believe China did this intentionally you must admit is was monumentally stupid of them to release it so close to a lab. Why not 1K miles away from a lab to throw the international community off their tracks?

The more probable scenario is..............
The coronavirus likely came from China’s wet markets. They’re reopening anyway.

The coronavirus likely came from China’s wet markets. They’re reopening anyway.

Should wet markets be banned? It’s more complicated than it seems.

www.vox.com

...................................................................................................................................................
Under either scenario a case can be made for China being negligent. Wet animal markets have long been recognized as a potential incubator for these types of viruses. If the virus "escaped" from the lab near Wuhan then they again bear responsibility for being negligent. Additionally, there is no dispute that under any circumstance the Chinese government is culpable for not informing the world about what was happening in China when the virus began to spread. That is unequivocal.
.................................................................................................................................................
However, the admin and its media lackeys needs to be more precise about what China is being accused of relative to why the virus began to spread. Chinese authorities are undoubtedly guilty of carelessness and of covering up COVID's early spread. For political purposes, China's culpability is being exploited by the admin in seeking a scapegoat for its own inadequate, inconsistent, and generally bungled response. But for the sake of accuracy, the evidence so far shows the COVID pandemic came about as the result of a tragic sequence of events, not on purpose.

I don't give a flying fuck if the virus came from the butts of flying rainbow-colored unicorns. It still came from Communist China, it's still the Communist Chinese Wuhan Virus, and the blame still rests squarely on the CHICOMs.

President Trump and the right-wing media had nothing to do with it, and it's you liberals who overreacted by shutting everything down and destroying the American economy.

The COVID-19 did not necessarily come from China at all.
At the end of Dec. lots of people I know in the US were getting the worst flu ever.
It had the same symptoms of fever, chills, hurt to breath, headaches, etc., as COVID-19.
And without universal testing, we will never know if the US had COVID-19 before China.
The Wuhan outbreak may simply have been larger than most before, because the rural Chinese may have been less immune and more susceptible.

 

[berg80]

The COVID-19 did not necessarily come from China at all.

Let's not confuse the mater further by introducing more unsubstantiated speculation.

 

[Rigby5]

Heard last night an "expert" saying that the local "wet market" in Wuhan did NOT sell bats for human consumption.

Classic case of "experts" having contradictory "facts." And we, the non-experts, have to sort it out.

I do not know the science, but I have read experts who have said humans can not get COVID-19 directly from bats in any way.
They say there has to be some other link between bats and humans, that as not been proven yet.
But the first suggestion was pangolins.
But again, that is not proven to be even possible, much less a fact.

 

[MindWars]

you fooled bro. lmfao........ dumb ass.

 

[Marion Morrison]

As have no advanced degree in medicine or any other field that could lend authority to any claim, will just have to wait until the political screaming slows down & those who do have expertise start coming to some conclusion.

1 for "believe the experts"..
I say "idiot" but ok..

 

[MindWars]

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you fooled bro. lmfao........ dumb ass.

OH and by the way the BLUE STATES are NEVER LIFTING their lock downs lmfao omfg this is going to be good.

 

[Oddball]

You're a good little commie bootlicker....Bet you have your local tattletale number on speed dial too, huh?

Sorry for noticing, but that bit of gratuitous insults does not in any way refute what I wrote. Care to try again?

What you posted is pure fucking propaganda and the banal strawman arguments we've come to expect from you.

First of all, Fauci is a doctor, not an intel agent...So his comments on intel matters are entirely irrelevant to anything.

Secondly, nobody of any credibility has claimed the virus was engineered, as completely dishonest agitprop shitbiscuits like you keep claiming...All the credible evidence does, however, point to it coming from a laboratory that has a pretty horrendous track record for safety...The fact that something comes from a laboratory does not automatically equate to it being engineered by humans.....You and the media hacks you're quoting are engaging in a strawman argument.

But you don't have a single analyitical thought in your head, and post this dishonest dreck on a daily basis, because you're an incredibly loathsome and dishonest chunk of human shit, whose singular daily focus is his overwhelming irrational hatred for one man...And you will stoop to whatever despicable and deceitful length, each and every day, to reinforce your lunacy...Which is bad enough on it's own, but you insist upon acting out and foisting your demented rancor upon the rest of us, then demand that you be treated in a rational manner.

Seriously....You need professional help....Get some.

 

[berg80]

Heard last night an "expert" saying that the local "wet market" in Wuhan did NOT sell bats for human consumption.

Classic case of "experts" having contradictory "facts." And we, the non-experts, have to sort it out.

I do not know the science, but I have read experts who have said humans can not get COVID-19 directly from bats in any way.
They say there has to be some other link between bats and humans, that as not been proven yet.
But the first suggestion was pangolins.
But again, that is not proven to be even possible, much less a fact.

For cryin' out loud, read this.

No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

Scientists took conspiracy theories seriously and analyzed the coronavirus to reveal its natural origins.

www.sciencenews.org