Let's get together and make a deal....What are the real drivers of our debt?

[ScienceRocks]

Let's get together and make a deal....What are the real drivers of our debt?

Welfare-SSi, SSD, Food stamps, etc
Defense

Maybe Obama could close half of our over sea's bases and dock some of the ships? Cut down to 600 billion for the rest of his term. Now these are just combat and over sea's bases....

NOT a cent has to come out of our r@d and ability to defend ourselves.


By ending the wars -->This is about 100-150 billion dollars/year!

We'd be able to do this.

Next is welfare

Maybe cut this back to 2008 and only give it to people that need it.

Anyone looking at cutting things that benefit the American people;;;;Infrastructure, science, tech, education, etc. Doesn't have a clue on this issue as they aren't focusing on the 99% of the drivers behind the expansion of our debt.

You think the nws, nasa, infrastructure funds or education that has been going down has anything to do with it? Not based on facts.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We're now spending on infrastructure at the lowest percent since 1992


That said, infrastructure spending is in the news again, so here are a few ways to think about the topic. Joe Wiesenthal created this chart to show that U.S. public construction spending as a percentage of GDP has dropped to its lowest point in 20 years, after a big uptick before the recession:

Now, that's a chart of all public construction spending, from highways to water projects to public hospitals to schools. So what if we just look at highways and roads? We get this chart:

Where is all this debt coming from? So you stupid republicans are going to blame infrastructure, science and tech for our problems? Give me a fucking break.

This proves without a shallow of a doubt that the American people are being fucked. Who ever that is pull the strings wants you republicans fools to cut this even more.

science?
http://blogs.cuit.columbia.edu/led2135/files/2012/11/NASA_budget_history.png this doesn't look like it is a driver of debt to me?

Same for r@d
http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/fy2014/Budget13p.jpg


What is more important to you 1. building a third world shit hole or 2. funding our edge as a first world nation?

 

[Vox]

the main drivers are Medicare/SS/welfare additions and defense.

all main drivers can and should be adjusted.

there have been proposals on the table since 2010 - very reasonable ones.
all the dimocraps did was hysterical shrieking
Even Simpson-Bowles proposals were too much for them.

they do not WANT to change anything.
because making it work is not their goal.

 

[Vox]

more bullshit from the big spender dimocrap.

we don't have money for infrastructure

 

[ScienceRocks]

more bullshit from the big spender dimocrap.

we don't have money for infrastructure

More bullshit from the big spender republican...

We don't have money for infrastructure for a nation in the middle east.

See that's where a lot of our debt is coming from.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I think a deal would be
1. End all the wars and pull the troops home from the middle east/south Korea.
2. Put jobs requirements for the abled and cap welfare.


Doing this would mean we don't have to touch the infrastructure, science, tech or education here at home.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Oh look yet ANOTHER thread by Matthew asking for free shit and big spending.

 

[Vox]

more bullshit from the big spender dimocrap.

we don't have money for infrastructure

More bullshit from the big spender republican...

We don't have money for infrastructure for a nation in the middle east.

See that's where a lot of our debt is coming from.

link?

or I will call you a liar from now on

 

[R.C. Christian]

Burn down the fed and everyone in it. Step 1.

 

[Vox]

Oh look yet ANOTHER thread by Matthew asking for free shit and big spending.

what do you expect from a dimocrap?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Oh look yet ANOTHER thread by Matthew asking for free shit and big spending.

Nope,

This would cut our debt.

1. Caps welfare
2. pulls our troops home from stupid wars.

Keep everything else stable for a few years....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Paul Ryan has laid out his plan.....what is Patty Murray's plan...?

stonewall...?

 

[R.C. Christian]

Actually, step1 begins when you folks realize that there is virtually no diff between a democreep and RINO.

 

[ScienceRocks]

more bullshit from the big spender dimocrap.

we don't have money for infrastructure

More bullshit from the big spender republican...

We don't have money for infrastructure for a nation in the middle east.

See that's where a lot of our debt is coming from.

link?

or I will call you a liar from now on

Here you go...
America?s staggering defense budget, in charts

 

[ScienceRocks]

Here is another chart from that link.

Like I said welfare and defense is most of the budget.

-3% goes to infrastructure. Like driving over bridges?
-2% goes to education. Like living in a first world country?
-2% goes into science and research. You do know even with that we have the best research on earth?

Medicare and SSI takes up 40% of the budget.

 

[Vox]

More bullshit from the big spender republican...

We don't have money for infrastructure for a nation in the middle east.

See that's where a lot of our debt is coming from.

link?

or I will call you a liar from now on

Here you go...
America?s staggering defense budget, in charts

and what does it have to do with me being a big republican spender?

link to prove those words, liar.

 

[ScienceRocks]

link?

or I will call you a liar from now on

Here you go...
America?s staggering defense budget, in charts

and what does it have to do with me being a big republican spender?

link to prove those words, liar.

You want us to build a third world shit hole in the middle east, retard idiot. People like you are radical as you can't look at the debt without letting your emotions control you.

If you could you'd see that the nation building and welfare are the drivers of the debt. BUT people like you want to punish innocent working Americans here at home.

You're a liar and that's a fact.

 

[Vox]

Here you go...
America?s staggering defense budget, in charts

and what does it have to do with me being a big republican spender?

link to prove those words, liar.

You want us to build a third world shit hole in the middle east, retard idiot. People like you are radical as you can't look at the debt without letting your emotions control you.

If you could you'd see that the nation building and welfare are the drivers of the debt. BUT people like you want to punish innocent working Americans here at home.

You're a liar and that's a fact.

you retarded leftard liar, you don't have a link to prove your lies, and all you do - keep lying.

well, that is all you are going to be called now - a leftard LIAR.

which is nothing new for you, that is what you have been doing here all the time

 

[ScienceRocks]

I layed the facts on the table. Those are what matters.

Get out of the middle east
Get out of Korea
=100-150 billion
Cap welfare or maybe cut it a little
Put a 2 year freeze on all spending

= the perfect deal to stop our debt.

 

[Vox]

Keep lying, lying leftard.
what else is new